[portland] Reverse Engineering Program Flow

Rami Kassab rami at typethink.com
Wed Feb 4 05:46:35 CET 2009

Rich,More power to ya man. I just thought I'd throw it out there but I
understand everyone has different needs and desires. Open source is
wonderful for that... you can change it to fit what you want. I just needed
something quick as my company is focusing all of it's development efforts on
wrapping up a SaaS product for the financial industry, which is fully
written in Python + Django + the beginnings of our own platform called
Thinkspace so we didn't have much time to allocate towards customizing a
product right now. I actually started off with vTiger prior to getting
frustrated with the clutter and giving in to the simplicity of PipeLine
Deals. Needless to say, it won't be our permanent solution.

I never actually gave TinyERM a try. I will take a gander at it now
though. I would eventually like to have a CRM custom built precisely for how
we need to use it... even if that means taking an open source project and
modding the s**t out of it :)

Like I said, I wish you the best of luck. CRMs are a thing that are known to
cause frustration and confusion for many business owners. There's just sooo
damn many that claim to do it all...


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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Rich Shepard <rshepard at appl-ecosys.com>wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Rami Kassab wrote:
>  ... and I fell upon PipeLine Deals CRM. It's a fully web based CRM
>> targeted
>> towards sales and is only $15 a month per employee using it.
> Rami,
>  I don't particularly like web-based apps. I'm the only one here and I want
> a local tool with my data residing on my server. It's not so much that I'm
> paranoid, I just don't trust my data out in the nasty 'Net world. I want it
> here, under my control and behind the firewall.
>  The biggest issue I had was all of the clutter and unnecessary things
>> other CRMs introduced.
>  Yes, too many think of themselves as Swiss Army Knives that must do
> everything. But, we don't need to use all capabilities, any more than we
> use
> all the capabilities of other business applications.
>  I wish you the best of luck on this journey. There are, literally,
>> hundreds
>> (if not thousands) of software solutions that claim to be a CRM. The issue
>> is, CRM is such a loose term that they are all really different and are
>> tailored to different purposes. The ones that claim can do it all are
>> incredibly bloated. I simply needed a tool just for sales right now and
>> PipeLine Deals was the right choice.
>  This is why TinyERP is so attractive: it's written in Python and is open
> source. So, if I could map the various modules and the paths to simple
> things like connecting to a database (instead of being told I've a bad
> username or password), then I can make it work for my needs. :-)
> Thanks,
> Rich
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