[portland] in followup to May meeting...

michelle rowley michelle at pdxpython.org
Thu May 14 02:34:14 CEST 2009


"Border Collie" is probably low on my list of preferred pet names, but
thanks for the intended sentiment. ;)


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:19 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thx for a great mtg!  I learned a lot.
> <meeting re="version control">
> Although I told "border collie" michelle (good at herding!) I'd be
> joining ya'll at Produce Row, when we dispersed to our motor vehicles
> (aka "cars") I got the proverbial cell call -- actually, I was in that
> Shell across from Cubespace, gassing up said Razz (her name).
> I texted Jason about my sudden change, dunno if relevant (just tying
> off loose ends).  Next time maybe?  I never know in advance it seems.
> When still on the sidewalk with the first group outside, Michel asked
> me what version control systems I'd used and I said mainly cvs for
> Python.org (the website), which brought up this question:  is it just
> the source tree for Python-the-language (CPython), or the whole
> website (the proverbial kit and kaboodle) that's moving to hg?
> I sought clarification about that just now and learned on good
> authority that the website is still in svn.
> My guess is it'll move to hg, but that hasn't happened yet.
> Here's my write-up of last night's, where I fade in and out around
> stuff, lots going on in my little world, distracting:
> http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2009/05/ppug-2009512.html
> </meeting>
> <autobio>
> Per my many autobiographical blog postings, I came up through the
> ranks as an xBase programmer, meaning Visual FoxPro eventually, still
> popular in Prague (liking Igal's allusions to Kafka's Castle as Friend
> Hyzy went to Prague precisely to study said master, has been one of my
> dear correspondents over the years).
> FYI, before FOSS revolution I worked mostly for Greater Portland's
> nonprofits using non-Mac solutions, though my organization (EMO/CUE)
> had some of the first LaserWriters in town, slaved to PageMaker, and
> we had classes for Portland Alliance, Rain Magazine, other proud dirt
> worshipers, tree huggers and so on (CUE = Center for Urban Education,
> tech support for NGOs, well before Free Geek's CollabTech experiment).
> My move to Python was in connection with geometry research, testing
> the waters in a few other languages along the way (starting with Fox)
> before finding this pool of deep talent and true wonders:
> http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/oop.html  (my transition from FoxPro to
> Python, in multiple chapters)
> http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/oopalgebra.html (lets make "dot
> notation" part of everyday math)
> http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/pyqvectors.html (yes, there's an
> article on "quadrays" in FoxPro Advisor -- collectors' edition?)
> I could give a more in-depth talk on this stuff sometime if people
> wanna do mathy stuff (seems we're pretty heavy into CS already, so why
> not?).
> What I'd say my day job is about these days is trying to get nuns and
> pirates (FOSS bosses) into the same room for cordial conversations
> with an eye to doing some business together.  Have to work against
> stereotypes.
> Takes HR skills I maybe don't have, so I outsource to others in that
> department sometimes, e.g. Mosaic Consulting has helped with Sisters
> of Providence work etc..
> On the geometry front, I was first web wrangler for Buckminster Fuller
> Insitute, was promoting his stuff around Portland before Python was a
> glimmer in our benevolent dicator's eye, even wound up in the
> Oregonian a couple times, as a "local futurist" (sounds pretty retro),
> here's a link to one of those articles, minus the picture which I've
> mislaid someplace:
> http://coffeeshopsnet.blogspot.com/2009/02/in-news.html  (no, Portland
> didn't go with any stadium style global projection either, but this
> was before Google Earth or Google Street Views).
> </autobio>
> More later, thanks again,
> Kirby
> 4D
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