[Pydotorg-redesign] how to search the site

Skip Montanaro skip at pobox.com
Tue Sep 16 15:04:18 EDT 2003


    Skip> I'm not sure what you mean by "takes up a lot of room".  We're
    Skip> interested in searching python.org, right?  There's no obligation
    Skip> to display a Google graphic as far as I know,

    Tim> From Googles terms and conditions

    Google> Personal Use Only 
    Google> The Google Services are made available for your personal,
    Google> non-commercial use only. You may not use the Google Services
    Google> to sell a product or service, or to increase traffic to your
    Google> Web site for commercial reasons, such as advertising sales.
    Google> You may not take the results from a Google search and reformat
    Google> and display them, or mirror the Google home page or results
    Google> pages on your Web site. You may not "meta-search" Google.
    Google> If you want to make commercial use of the Google Services,
    Google> you must enter into an agreement with Google to do so in
    Google> advance. Please contact us for more information. 
    Google> 
    Google> If you are interested in adding a Google search box to
    Google> your web site or your company's web site, we encourage
    Google> you to do so

    Tim> The last is a link to the google free search service, this is the
    Tim> service that can be used for free and the one from which I quickly
    Tim> (todd :-) drew up the screenshot.

But there's no obligation to use precisely that HTML is there?  I assume
you're worried about the "your personal, non-commercial use only" phrase.
If we're in violation of that I doubt it hardly makes any difference whether
we display a Google <img> tag or simply "Google (TM)".  Since all we'd be
doing is vectoring people off to Google's site I don't think any of the
other stuff applies ("advertising sales", "increasing traffic",
"meta-search", etc).

    Tim> Google are very hard on unauthorised us of their service even down
    Tim> to removing the offending site from their indexes.

I know.  I wanted to use AdSense on the Mojam and Musi-Cal sites.  About 90%
of the page views are generated search results, which they don't allow.  I
tried hard to convince them that the ads being displayed were appropriate to
the displayed contents, but they wouldn't budge.

    Tim> Of course someone may have friends in high places...

I'm sure Guido does, however I'm still unsure where the problem lies.

Skip



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