[Pydotorg-redesign] What are the goals?

[Aahz]

[This is far too long a message for me to respond to in any substantive
way, so I'm just going to take a few potshots at points that I think are
important.]

On Fri, Sep 26, 2003, Tim Parkin wrote:
>
> I think we have to take best practices for granted unless there is a
> situation where a best practice is in conflict with another best
> practice. It is at these pointes we *NEED* feedback. Case in point: full
> support for Netscape vs. best practices in w3c wai accessibility and
> standards/semantic compliance. In this I raised it as a conflict and
> looked for feedback but received very little and had to assume that
> support for Netscape was less important than good accessibility and
> standards/semantic compliance.

So far, everyone has said that it's possible to have something readable
in Netscape, even if it doesn't look particularly good, so I don't see
what the issue is.

> Generally these break down into four overall core requirements
> 
> . Usability / Clarity
> . Professional Design
> . Both Marketing / Informational Purposes
> . Best Practices in Web Development

Right.  But I don't know how much agreement there is in achieving those
requirements.

> On top of this, there is the marketing document at :
> 
> http://wingide.com/pub/misc/pymarket/py-market-plan-0.0.6.rst

That's a long document that's difficult to wade through, not to mention
a lack of clarity about how relevant it is to the website redesign.

> As it is, it shouldn't take a great deal of time or coordination to get
> to 'yes we like the look of that' or 'no, perhaps it should be more...'.
> As it is there has been no feedback. We can only assume from this that,
> because all the work has been available for quite some time, there is
> approval and a desire for us to carry on. If there was a negative
> opinion or no wish to use what has been created then why would there be
> no communication of that?

Speaking strictly for myself, one problem is that a key design proposal
(yours) has not been available as an HTML page.  I'm not prepared to
spend time looking at it until either most other people have approved it
or it's available in HTML.  I'm just not going to download pictures of
an evolving design.

> As the situation lies, the design/marketing/redesign groups have had
> numerous discussions and reached a consensus about what is felt to be
> the right direction. This is now being documented. I'm not sure what the
> advantage of having multiple groups doing the same thing is unless there
> is dissent as to the direction that should be taken. I haven't noticed
> any constructive dissent so assume we have a certain amount of
> consensus.

Some, yes.  But it's not clear how much consensus.  And the three groups
(marketing, website redesign, and logo) have different emphases and
different groups of people.
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