[pydotorg-www] project plan
mfoord at python.org
Wed Apr 21 18:31:36 CEST 2010
On 21/04/2010 18:25, skip at pobox.com wrote:
> >> - I wonder if the PSF might consider funding a competent technical
> >> writer with essentially no programming experience to learn the
> >> language and produce a good tutorial aimed at complete novices.
> Michael> Whilst *evaluating* tutorials can be done (and perhaps is best
> Michael> done) by those with little experience I don't think that
> Michael> absolute Python newbies can *create* a very good tutorial.
> My implicit point was that I think it's difficult for experienced
> programmers to write documentation which is suitable for non-programmers. I
> don't know what the resolution will be, but there is certainly tension
> between the two extremes.
Hehe. As a (relatively) experience Python developer and a writer I don't
think it is that hard if you have the right mindset and skills. I don't
think it is *possible* for a real newbie to write useful documentation
though. Having a technical-but-python-novice as a reviewer would be very
> >> - Would Google App Engine be a suitable environment for an interactive
> >> Python exploratorium?
> Michael> I'd rather not have our core services dependent on external
> Michael> providers - but am not *strongly* against it for some of the
> Michael> details.
> I only mentioned GAE because presumably they've solved the problem of
> someone entering something simple like
> print 1000 ** 1000 ** 1000
Ah - you're talking about an "interactive Python exploratorium", I
missed that. Yes, implementing it on top of google app engine would be
If you're not ideologically opposed to Silverlight then I have already
implemented something like this called "Try Python" (unfortunately not
yet compatible with Silverlight 4 which has just been released - I need
a free weekend): http://www.trypython.org/
The advantage of Silverlight is that the code runs on the client not the
server. The disadvantage is that it is only installed on 50% of browsers
and has poor Linux support (works great on the Mac though).
All the best,
> which will likely take awhile to run. GAE probably also has more hardware
> available so that the above sort of construct (if it hasn't been addressed)
> is unlikely to be an effective denial-of-service attack. At most the PSF
> will probably devote a few boxes to such an application. Execute that a few
> times and things can go to pot pretty quickly. Not to mention
> security/sandbox issues.
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