[pydotorg-www] project plan

Georg Brandl georg at python.org
Fri Apr 23 01:14:54 CEST 2010

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Am 22.04.2010 22:48, schrieb Jesse Noller:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:30 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>>> 1> Make it clear / prominent *where to download*
>>> 2> Make it clear / prominent *where to file bugs*
>>> 3> Make it clear / prominent how to get involved in the community.
>>> 4> Make it clear / prominent how to get packages.
>>> 5> Add a link to the bug tracker on the front page - but say "report an issue"
>> These all seem like very little effort to do, IIUC.
>> Yet, I think I'm unable to implement them, as I still fail to see the
>> problem.
>> If you think you can, just go ahead and do it. Or, tell me how exactly
>> you would want it look, and I change it for you.
> This is fundamentally why I'm trying to encourage this project by Rich
> Leland, and by extension, the PSF. I don't *want* a series of
> band-aids and quick fixes to pile onto the mound of band-aids we have.

Again, this sounds like the current state of affairs is a pile of rubbish.

> We have a fundamental design problem. We have content which needs
> deleted, simplified, we have to find a way of making things *simpler*
> and more streamlined. This can't be done one-tiny-piece at a time
> without having specific goals in mind.

Huh? Why can't you do one piece at a time with the specific goal of
improving this piece in mind?

>> I still wish you would provide a list of problems that people discussed
>> with you in the last four days.
> I just did. Let me be even more specific:
> 1> Download page is confusing. Make it less so. Why isn't there a
> massive "DOWNLOAD HERE" button on the home page?
> 2> Don't see a clear way of filing a bug and the dev documents are
> long/confusing. Giving up. (3 hours ago, coworker)
> 3> I don't even see "the community" on the page, how do I know how to
> communicate with the community?! (4 hours ago, coworker)
> 4> Where's a simple way of finding out how to contribute?
> 5> Why isn't there a code example on the front page?
> Do I really need to enumerate all of this?

Yes.  It is, for example, not immediately obvious to me that we need a
code example on the front page.

> It meshes with what I said in the last email.

At least it's more concrete.

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