[pydotorg-www] Analytics

Georg Brandl georg at python.org
Sun Apr 25 22:38:37 CEST 2010

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Am 25.04.2010 22:22, schrieb Michael Foord:

>>> Here in Germany, it is the law that users have to opt in to have
>>> personal data being collected, and IP addresses are considered personal
>>> information. So strictly speaking, even a plain webserver log without
>>> user consent is against the law (the one exception being operational
>>> necessity). This isn't really being followed in practice, but we should
>>> not give personal data to anybody else (aggregated data is fine).
>> I also don't really see the need to put something in every python.org page
>> when the webserver collects enough data just fine.  No matter how little, it
>> will slow down the user's browser.  In any case, do we *really* need the
>> "advanced" stats that Google Analytics is offering?  (Remember, we aren't
>> trying to sell something.)  If Google collects more data than the webserver
>> would, do we want to collect and deliver that?
>> If server-side tools work just fine for our needs: even if they don't produce
>> graphs as pretty as Google's, what does it matter?
> If we don't need it, and I have no axe to grind on that score, then 
> fine. If implemented correctly in the source then it shouldn't slow down 
> rendering of page contents at all - however what information about our 
> visitors and how they use the site is probably something for the site 
> plan to determine.

I realize this is nitpicking, but anything that we put into a page in
addition to the actual contents will consume *something*, be it rendering
time, bandwidth, or CPU cycles.  I concede that this is completely
irrelevant for most users.

> Whatever technology best meets our need should be used - ultimately to 
> be determined by the PSF board. This decision certainly shouldn't be 
> held hostage by individual opinions.

It should however still be possible to state one's opinion without being
accused of spreading FUD.

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