[pydotorg-www] Updates to Jobs HowTo page

Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com
Thu Jul 22 02:49:16 CEST 2010

This seems to me to be a pretty clear indication from a valued volunteer
that we could help him by providing additional web functionality. How
can we provide this?


On 7/22/2010 1:36 AM, Martin Thomas wrote:
> On Jul 21, 2010, at 4:17 PM, David Goodger wrote:
>> I just noticed this while cleaning up my inbox, missed it when it
>> arrived, sorry.
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:44, Martin Thomas <martin at martinthomas.net> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:43 AM, David Goodger <goodger at python.org> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:37, Martin Thomas <martin at martinthomas.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I have made a number of changes to the jobs howto page
>>>>> (http://www.python.org/community/jobs/howto/):
>>>> And I made some further improvements.
>>> Thanks.
>>>> I note that your changes put more text up-front. This discussed a
>>>> while back, and IIRC we agreed that this would have the effect of
>>>> fewer people getting to the most important part: the template. It will
>>>> be interesting to see what effect these changes have.
>>> I took advantage of the fact that the template viewed on the webpage is
>>> in a highlighted block. In addition to adding some text, I also trimmed a
>>> little.  I wanted to remove the volunteer paragraph.. do we really need that
>>> on both pages?
>> I think that point needs more emphasis, not less. I'm tired of seeing
>> reminders from impatient job posters. But it's near the end, so I
>> doubt many will make it to that point in the instructions. If anything
>> needs to be up-front and boldfaced, it's that.
> I completely agree.. except the "volunteer paragraph" I was referring to is the
> second paragraph on the page that talk about looking at the wiki.  You are talking
> about "life gets in the way" paragraph that closes the page.. which, incidentally, I 
> don't think I touched.  
> How about we remove the text about finding volunteer positions (as I originally
> intended to say) and move the closing paragraph to second position?
> Also, put a note in the auto-responder message if it is not there already?
> Just my 2c. I am trying to make it clearer for the careful poster.  What would really 
> help is some way for the posters who cannot or will not grok RST to fill in the 
> template.
> Regards // M
>> -- David
>>> Based on the postings recently, people who make it to this page have
>>> little trouble finding the template but needed some help with filling it
>>> in.
>>> Hopefully, the  changes will help there and save some rework.
>>>>> Does anyone know why the bullet points after the template are indented?
>>>>> It
>>>>> is not a CSS issue, as far as I can tell.
>>>> Do you mean the numbered list? Item 1 was not properly indented, so it
>>>> didn't show up as a true HTML "list item" (it was just a paragraph
>>>> with "1." at the beginning; fixed now). Items 2 and up were properly
>>>> indented, and showed up as list items. The indentation is just how
>>>> browsers format lists.
>>> Facepalm. Thanks.
>>> //m
>>>> --
>>>> David Goodger <http://python.net/~goodger>
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