[pydotorg-www] Making list membership public

Carl Karsten carl at personnelware.com
Sat Sep 25 01:34:50 CEST 2010

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:00 PM, A.M. Kuchling <amk at amk.ca> wrote:
>> On python-dev, it was noted that this list...
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>>> ... has hidden its membership (even to members). Does it really need
>>> to appear that secretive? At least the message archive is open and has
>>> all the usual suspects.
>> Any objections to making the subscriber list public?  It seems
>> harmless, especially since the archives are public anyway.
> Hope I'm not misunderstanding something, but if you're proposing to
> publicly make available the names/emails of everyone on this list, I
> really don't see the utility. Why would anyone, other than a spammer,
> need this information to be posted in this way? Yes, I know that many
> folks' addresses are going to be in the archives anyway. But why make
> life easier for spammers, and much worse for lurkers, whose addresses
> might not be so public?
> Not to mention that when people signed up for the list, the form
> explicitly said "This is a hidden list, which means that the list of
> members is available only to the list administrator". It seems
> impolite, at best, to renege on this promise.

I also see:

"(The subscribers list is only available to the list administrator.)"
- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www

So even if there is a use, I don't think it should be made public

Carl K

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