[pydotorg-www] Making list membership public

Michael Foord michael at voidspace.org.uk
Sat Sep 25 01:51:40 CEST 2010

  On 25/09/2010 00:34, Carl Karsten wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Josh Kupershmidt<schmiddy at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:00 PM, A.M. Kuchling<amk at amk.ca>  wrote:
>>> On python-dev, it was noted that this list...
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>>>> ... has hidden its membership (even to members). Does it really need
>>>> to appear that secretive? At least the message archive is open and has
>>>> all the usual suspects.
>>> Any objections to making the subscriber list public?  It seems
>>> harmless, especially since the archives are public anyway.
>> Hope I'm not misunderstanding something, but if you're proposing to
>> publicly make available the names/emails of everyone on this list, I
>> really don't see the utility. Why would anyone, other than a spammer,
>> need this information to be posted in this way? Yes, I know that many
>> folks' addresses are going to be in the archives anyway. But why make
>> life easier for spammers, and much worse for lurkers, whose addresses
>> might not be so public?
>> Not to mention that when people signed up for the list, the form
>> explicitly said "This is a hidden list, which means that the list of
>> members is available only to the list administrator". It seems
>> impolite, at best, to renege on this promise.
> I also see:
> "(The subscribers list is only available to the list administrator.)"
> - http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
> So even if there is a use, I don't think it should be made public
So long as we give adequate notice, so anyone who doesn't want their 
name / email address associated with this list has a chance to 
unsubscribe, I don't think there should be an issue.

All the best,

Michael Foord


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