[pydotorg-www] Making list membership public

Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com
Sat Sep 25 17:53:53 CEST 2010

On 9/25/2010 9:34 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Georg Brandl <georg at python.org> wrote:
>> Am 25.09.2010 00:40, schrieb Josh Kupershmidt:
>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:00 PM, A.M. Kuchling <amk at amk.ca> wrote:
>>>> On python-dev, it was noted that this list...
>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>>>>> ... has hidden its membership (even to members). Does it really need
>>>>> to appear that secretive? At least the message archive is open and has
>>>>> all the usual suspects.
>>>> Any objections to making the subscriber list public?  It seems
>>>> harmless, especially since the archives are public anyway.
>>> Hope I'm not misunderstanding something, but if you're proposing to
>>> publicly make available the names/emails of everyone on this list, I
>>> really don't see the utility. Why would anyone, other than a spammer,
>>> need this information to be posted in this way? Yes, I know that many
>>> folks' addresses are going to be in the archives anyway. But why make
>>> life easier for spammers, and much worse for lurkers, whose addresses
>>> might not be so public?
>> Isn't it possible to make the addresses visible to members in addition
>> to admins, but not the general public?
>> Re. use case, someone complained we were secretive and not open enough.
> It was me, and I will say that opening names won't help to get a better image.
> Opening pydotorg and moving all the secret stuff completely out of sight will.
Enough of this paranoia.

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