From mfoord at python.org  Mon Jan  3 15:05:27 2011
From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:05:27 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add Alex Clark's Python-centric Blog to planet
 feed?
In-Reply-To: <4D1C7E62.7060201@nedbatchelder.com>
References: <AANLkTinkdYJj0NFjZawcmeP7rJd0bSfC6BNqv5CGTS4Y@mail.gmail.com>	<4CBEFA34.9030708@python.org>
	<4D1C7E62.7060201@nedbatchelder.com>
Message-ID: <4D21D7A7.3010904@python.org>

On 30/12/2010 12:43, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> Speaking of this, I've been meaning for years to create a feed 
> specifically for Planet Python.  Now I've done it: 
> http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/planetpython.xml   Could you kindly 
> update Planet Python to point to it?
Hey Ned,

I've changed the feed location on the Planet. The change will show up 
shortly.

All the best,

Michael Foord

>
> --Ned.
>
> On 10/20/2010 10:18 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
>> Hey Alex,
>>
>> We'd be happy to do this. For adding to Planet Python we ask for a 
>> *Python specific* feed. This is usually done by tagging relevant 
>> posts with "python" and providing us with a tag / category specific feed.
>>
>> Could you set this up and send the Python tagged feed URL to planet 
>> <planet at python.org>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Michael Foord
>>
>> On 20/10/2010 15:10, Alex Clark wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Could someone add http://feeds.feedburner.com/aclark to the Python 
>>> planet feed list?
>>>
>>> That is the feed for: http://blog.aclark.net/ where I am planning to 
>>> post more Python-centric content in the future (formerly Plone-centric).
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>> Author ? Plone 3.3 Site Administration ? http://aclark.net/admin
>>>
>>>
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>>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Sun Jan  9 17:48:48 2011
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 08:48:48 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] FWD: Broken Login
Message-ID: <20110109164848.GB14611@panix.com>

Can someone fix the broken MoinMoin bad password code?

----- Forwarded message from Devin Bayer <w at t-0.be> -----

> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:45:05 +0100
> From: Devin Bayer <w at t-0.be>
> To: webmaster at python.org
> Subject: Broken Login
> 
> Hello. Just now I tried a few times to login with this url:
> 
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/DjangoMeetingNL/DM/ABC120111?action=login
> 
> However, it only says:
> 
> A problem occurred in a Python script.
> 
> Thanks,
> Devin

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From martin at v.loewis.de  Fri Jan 14 06:59:49 2011
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:59:49 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Disabling advocacy.python.org
Message-ID: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de>

advocacy.python.org is unmaintained, and it is down most of the time.
It's presence still creates a maintenance burden, so I'd rather delete
it from DNS and the Apache configuration. The data would remain in
place, in case somebody wants to reuse them.

Objections?

Regards,
Martin

From jeff at taupro.com  Fri Jan 14 11:19:47 2011
From: jeff at taupro.com (Jeff Rush)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:19:47 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Disabling advocacy.python.org
In-Reply-To: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de>
References: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <4D302343.4020700@taupro.com>

On 01/13/2011 11:59 PM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
> advocacy.python.org is unmaintained, and it is down most of the time.
> It's presence still creates a maintenance burden, so I'd rather delete
> it from DNS and the Apache configuration. The data would remain in
> place, in case somebody wants to reuse them.
> 
> Objections?

Andrew Kuchling hosts the official Python podcast/videos recordings
(/data/www/advocacy/podcasts/) through the advocacy.python.org domain
(http://advocacy.python.org/podcasts/ ).  If you remove its DNS entry,
all those links are broken.  Those files are served by Apache from the
filesystem and don't depend upon the Zope server behind the site being up.

I would not have thought one DNS entry and a few lines of Apache a
maintenance burden.  Those lines of Apache config are sitting in a
/etc/apache2/sites-available/advocacy file and not in anyone's way.

What stops the site from being up is someone w/root access to add it to
the system startup scripts.  Perhaps that would improve its chances of
being maintained.

Or if you would prefer, retain just the DNS entry but point it to my
server (192.67.63.140) and I'll take responsibility for hosting and
maintaining it.  I can grab the 1.9G of podcast data too, if Andrew is
fine with that or we can host it under a different python.org domain and
I'll add a URL redirect from advocacy.python.org to it my Apache's
config.  I'm fine with hosting it myself - it gives me more control, and
I know it has bothered you in the past from previous emails.

-Jeff

From techtonik at gmail.com  Fri Jan 14 12:14:49 2011
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:14:49 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Disabling advocacy.python.org
In-Reply-To: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de>
References: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikcA3OvM1Rs3EKYj4em6Df=X3FutBYxDChoUMYq@mail.gmail.com>

advocacy is useful when it's online.
--
anatoly t.



On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:59 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
> advocacy.python.org is unmaintained, and it is down most of the time.
> It's presence still creates a maintenance burden, so I'd rather delete
> it from DNS and the Apache configuration. The data would remain in
> place, in case somebody wants to reuse them.
>
> Objections?
>
> Regards,
> Martin
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>

From mfoord at python.org  Fri Jan 14 12:54:09 2011
From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:54:09 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Disabling advocacy.python.org
In-Reply-To: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de>
References: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <4D303961.7050904@python.org>

On 14/01/2011 05:59, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
> advocacy.python.org is unmaintained, and it is down most of the time.
> It's presence still creates a maintenance burden, so I'd rather delete
> it from DNS and the Apache configuration. The data would remain in
> place, in case somebody wants to reuse them.

As Jeff points out, a lot of podcast material is hosted on the advocacy 
subdomain.

All the best,

Michael

> Objections?
>
> Regards,
> Martin
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www


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May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
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From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Jan 14 14:31:42 2011
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:31:42 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Disabling advocacy.python.org
In-Reply-To: <4D303961.7050904@python.org>
References: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de> <4D303961.7050904@python.org>
Message-ID: <D06C6F0E-A48E-4348-8768-E64EDA34D25B@holdenweb.com>

This material should be moved to some other hosting more in line with our other istes. Otherwise it qon't be maintained, and will be lost in due course.

regards
 Steve

On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Michael Foord wrote:

> On 14/01/2011 05:59, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
>> advocacy.python.org is unmaintained, and it is down most of the time.
>> It's presence still creates a maintenance burden, so I'd rather delete
>> it from DNS and the Apache configuration. The data would remain in
>> place, in case somebody wants to reuse them.
> 
> As Jeff points out, a lot of podcast material is hosted on the advocacy subdomain.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Michael
> 
>> Objections?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Martin
>> _______________________________________________
>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/
> 
> May you do good and not evil
> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
> -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html
> 
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www


From mfoord at python.org  Fri Jan 14 15:12:13 2011
From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:12:13 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Disabling advocacy.python.org
In-Reply-To: <D06C6F0E-A48E-4348-8768-E64EDA34D25B@holdenweb.com>
References: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de> <4D303961.7050904@python.org>
	<D06C6F0E-A48E-4348-8768-E64EDA34D25B@holdenweb.com>
Message-ID: <4D3059BD.1050607@python.org>

On 14/01/2011 13:31, Steve Holden wrote:
> This material should be moved to some other hosting more in line with our other istes. Otherwise it qon't be maintained, and will be lost in due course.
>
Well, Andrew Kuchling is maintaining it (in as much as that material 
needs maintaining) and there are quite a few external links pointing to 
it. I don't see much advantage in moving it, but I'm happy to help with 
any maintenance required for that part of the domain. I believe I have 
access.

All the best,

Michael

> regards
>   Steve
>
> On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
>
>> On 14/01/2011 05:59, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
>>> advocacy.python.org is unmaintained, and it is down most of the time.
>>> It's presence still creates a maintenance burden, so I'd rather delete
>>> it from DNS and the Apache configuration. The data would remain in
>>> place, in case somebody wants to reuse them.
>> As Jeff points out, a lot of podcast material is hosted on the advocacy subdomain.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>> Objections?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Martin
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>>
>> -- 
>> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/
>>
>> May you do good and not evil
>> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
>> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
>> -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www


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May you do good and not evil
May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
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From webmaster at python.org  Fri Jan 14 21:00:46 2011
From: webmaster at python.org (webmaster at python.org)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:00:46 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: http://www.python.org/download/windows/
Message-ID: <4D30AB6E.9040405@python.org>

Page needs updating.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	http://www.python.org/download/windows/
Date: 	Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:58:08 -0500
From: 	Terry Reedy <tjreedy at udel.edu>
To: 	webmaster at python.org



http://www.python.org/download/windows/   says


    Python for Windows 2000, ME, XP, Vista ...


This is obsolete. http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0011/ has

Name:             Win9x, WinME, NT4
     Unsupported in:   Python 2.6 (warning in 2.5 installer)
     Code removed in:  Python 2.6

I suspect same true of w2000. ask Martin.  I suggest separate entry for 
these versions, like for winCE, pointing to last 2.5 release.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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From martin at v.loewis.de  Fri Jan 14 23:42:14 2011
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 23:42:14 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Disabling advocacy.python.org
In-Reply-To: <4D302343.4020700@taupro.com>
References: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de> <4D302343.4020700@taupro.com>
Message-ID: <4D30D146.1080804@v.loewis.de>

> Andrew Kuchling hosts the official Python podcast/videos recordings
> (/data/www/advocacy/podcasts/) through the advocacy.python.org domain
> (http://advocacy.python.org/podcasts/ ).  If you remove its DNS entry,
> all those links are broken.  Those files are served by Apache from the
> filesystem and don't depend upon the Zope server behind the site being up.
> 
> I would not have thought one DNS entry and a few lines of Apache a
> maintenance burden.

It's actually the Zope instance that causes the maintenance burden.
If it would be ok to remove the Zope instance from the Apache
configuration, and just leave the static contents, that would be fine
with me.

> What stops the site from being up is someone w/root access to add it to
> the system startup scripts.  Perhaps that would improve its chances of
> being maintained.

When that is done, I'd also like to request that an official Debian
package is used to provide Zope, rather than a build created many years
ago which is completely outdated.

> Or if you would prefer, retain just the DNS entry but point it to my
> server (192.67.63.140) and I'll take responsibility for hosting and
> maintaining it.  I can grab the 1.9G of podcast data too, if Andrew is
> fine with that or we can host it under a different python.org domain and
> I'll add a URL redirect from advocacy.python.org to it my Apache's
> config.  

I didn't know that there is content that is actually still in use.
I'd personally prefer this content to be integrated into www.python.org
(say, www.python.org/podcasts), but leaving it in advocacy.python.org
is acceptable.

Regards,
Martin

From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Jan 14 23:53:56 2011
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:53:56 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Disabling advocacy.python.org
In-Reply-To: <4D30D146.1080804@v.loewis.de>
References: <4D2FE655.5080203@v.loewis.de> <4D302343.4020700@taupro.com>
	<4D30D146.1080804@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <95F9CE8E-19AE-4AB2-82F9-AFC5D61B1588@holdenweb.com>


On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Martin v. L?wis wrote:

>> Andrew Kuchling hosts the official Python podcast/videos recordings
>> (/data/www/advocacy/podcasts/) through the advocacy.python.org domain
>> (http://advocacy.python.org/podcasts/ ).  If you remove its DNS entry,
>> all those links are broken.  Those files are served by Apache from the
>> filesystem and don't depend upon the Zope server behind the site being up.
>> 
>> I would not have thought one DNS entry and a few lines of Apache a
>> maintenance burden.
> 
> It's actually the Zope instance that causes the maintenance burden.
> If it would be ok to remove the Zope instance from the Apache
> configuration, and just leave the static contents, that would be fine
> with me.
> 
>> What stops the site from being up is someone w/root access to add it to
>> the system startup scripts.  Perhaps that would improve its chances of
>> being maintained.
> 
> When that is done, I'd also like to request that an official Debian
> package is used to provide Zope, rather than a build created many years
> ago which is completely outdated.

+1

> 
>> Or if you would prefer, retain just the DNS entry but point it to my
>> server (192.67.63.140) and I'll take responsibility for hosting and
>> maintaining it.  I can grab the 1.9G of podcast data too, if Andrew is
>> fine with that or we can host it under a different python.org domain and
>> I'll add a URL redirect from advocacy.python.org to it my Apache's
>> config.  
> 
> I didn't know that there is content that is actually still in use.
> I'd personally prefer this content to be integrated into www.python.org
> (say, www.python.org/podcasts), but leaving it in advocacy.python.org
> is acceptable.
> 

I think we should certainly move away from the current unreliable hosting, which seems to rely on Jeff to keep it up.

regards
 Steve



From techtonik at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 18:43:58 2011
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:43:58 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Rietveld integration sends reviews to wrong email
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=r2V18Xz7O0HZS8_Zb3eMB8qWZR1Guzb2FEh1F@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Alexander Belopolsky <report at bugs.python.org>
Date: Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:47 PM
Subject: [issue9527] Add aware local time support to datetime module (issue9527)
To: techtonik at gmail.com



Alexander Belopolsky <belopolsky at users.sourceforge.net> added the comment:

Forwarding Rietveld conversation to the tracker. ?It looks like
Rietveld integration has a bug and sends reviews to
None at psf.upfronthosting.co.za rather than to report at bugs.python.org.

From patcam at python.org  Mon Jan 17 22:38:03 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:38:03 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Update PSF Community Awards Webpage - with December
	2010 winners
Message-ID: <AANLkTinL2Yf2Rq=sBXRKjYoTnw4jZ7=wtrNfXB-vJuC1@mail.gmail.com>

Update PSF Community Awards Webpage: Could you please update the ?Python
Software Foundation Community Awards? at
http://www.python.org/community/awards/psf-awards/ with the following update
information: *December 2010*

The following award was announced on January 3, 2011 in a *PSF blog article*
:

?         *Andrew Kuchling* was awarded in recognition of his work promoting
Python everywhere he can. Andrew chaired PyCon for two years and has
contributed significantly to Python's online presence. He also
prepares the "What's
New" documentation <http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/index.html> for new
releases of Python.

The Python Software Foundation is pleased to recognize Andrew's
contributions

to the community.

The following award was announced on January 6, 2011 in a *PSF blog article*
:

?         *Doug Hellmann* was awarded in recognition of his contributions to
Python online and offline. Doug is the creator and maintainer of the Python
Module of the Week <http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/> series, worked on
Python Magazine, and is the leader of the PSF Communications team.

The Python Software Foundation is pleased to give this award to this worthy
member of the Python community.

Thanks,

Pat

PS. If you have any questions, please let me know.


-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Sun Jan 23 17:00:21 2011
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:00:21 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] FWD: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
Message-ID: <20110123160021.GA15910@panix.com>

I see the same thing.

----- Forwarded message from Eddie Armstrong <eddie_armstrong at ntlworld.com> -----

> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:46:47 +0000
> From: Eddie Armstrong <eddie_armstrong at ntlworld.com>
> To: webmaster at mail.python.org
> Subject: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
> 
> I keep getting
> "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
> 
>      We're sorry, we hit a bug!
> 
> Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing
> of traceback and other system information has been explicitly
> inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the
> Mailman error logs.
> 
> "
> when I try to access:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

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From mfoord at python.org  Sun Jan 23 17:32:39 2011
From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:32:39 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] FWD: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
In-Reply-To: <20110123160021.GA15910@panix.com>
References: <20110123160021.GA15910@panix.com>
Message-ID: <4D3C5827.9070403@python.org>

On 23/01/2011 16:00, Aahz wrote:
> I see the same thing.

Looks like it's all the mailing lists - at least python-dev does the 
same too.

Michael
> ----- Forwarded message from Eddie Armstrong<eddie_armstrong at ntlworld.com>  -----
>
>> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:46:47 +0000
>> From: Eddie Armstrong<eddie_armstrong at ntlworld.com>
>> To: webmaster at mail.python.org
>> Subject: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
>>
>> I keep getting
>> "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
>>
>>       We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>>
>> Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing
>> of traceback and other system information has been explicitly
>> inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the
>> Mailman error logs.
>>
>> "
>> when I try to access:
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>


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May you do good and not evil
May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
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From barry at python.org  Sun Jan 23 18:42:19 2011
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:42:19 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] FWD: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
In-Reply-To: <20110123160021.GA15910@panix.com>
References: <20110123160021.GA15910@panix.com>
Message-ID: <BF66C271-5526-461C-B700-590CD3A1A5FB@python.org>

On Jan 23, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Aahz wrote:

> I see the same thing.

Fixed.  Somehow /srv/mailman/logs/error got g-w'd.  I g+w'd and iwfm.

-B


From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Sun Jan 23 21:51:58 2011
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:51:58 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] FWD: Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
Message-ID: <20110123205158.GA4626@panix.com>

----- Forwarded message from Eddie Armstrong <eddie_armstrong at ntlworld.com> -----

> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:53:38 +0000
> From: Eddie Armstrong <eddie_armstrong at ntlworld.com>
> To: webmaster at python.org
> Subject: Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
> 
> On 23/01/2011 18:31, webmaster at python.org wrote:
> >Fixed
> Thanks - excellent service on a Sunday too!
> EA

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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Mon Jan 24 11:49:13 2011
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:13 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] SSH keys for maintenance of Windows page
Message-ID: <4D3D5929.3070405@timgolden.me.uk>

Please add my public key (attached) so I can help maintain the Windows 
download page.

TJG

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From mfoord at python.org  Mon Jan 24 11:54:25 2011
From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:54:25 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] SSH keys for maintenance of Windows page
In-Reply-To: <4D3D5929.3070405@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <4D3D5929.3070405@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <4D3D5A61.5050508@python.org>

On 24/01/2011 10:49, Tim Golden wrote:
> Please add my public key (attached) so I can help maintain the Windows 
> download page.

I asked Tim to help (and Brian Curtin) by the way.

Michael

>
> TJG
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www


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From skip at pobox.com  Mon Jan 24 22:47:48 2011
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:47:48 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Pydotorg] This seems unfriendly
Message-ID: <19773.62340.35740.876943@montanaro.dyndns.org>

I clicked a link which took me to us.pycon.org just now.  Firefox didn't
trust the SSL certificate.  See attached.  Surely the PSF (or whatever
organization is ultimately in charge of the pycon.org domain) can afford to
keep the certificate up-to-date...  No sense scaring off people
unnecessarily.

Skip

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From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Tue Jan 25 04:21:56 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:21:56 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Request for commit access RE: download/windows page
Message-ID: <AANLkTinxX8m-hWsNH6mTaibmBb8=T=vs710Gy1fbXZ0T@mail.gmail.com>

Michael Foord reached out to Tim Golden and myself to work on and maintain
the currently outdated http://www.python.org/download/windows/ page, and I'd
like to help.

I'm new to this particular list so I'm not sure what crossover there may be
from python-dev and others, but I have CPython commit access and I'm one of
the seemingly few Windows users in that circle. If this is a reasonable
request, my key is attached here.
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From steve at holdenweb.com  Tue Jan 25 04:29:34 2011
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:29:34 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Request for commit access RE: download/windows
	page
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinxX8m-hWsNH6mTaibmBb8=T=vs710Gy1fbXZ0T@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxX8m-hWsNH6mTaibmBb8=T=vs710Gy1fbXZ0T@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E01DB7E-0875-4B29-8C08-928023DC97AC@holdenweb.com>


On Jan 24, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Brian Curtin wrote:

> Michael Foord reached out to Tim Golden and myself to work on and maintain the currently outdated http://www.python.org/download/windows/ page, and I'd like to help.
> 
I'm not surprised, that page is a disgrace. So, first of all, reassurance that almost any change is likely to be fpor the better,

> I'm new to this particular list so I'm not sure what crossover there may be from python-dev and others, but I have CPython commit access and I'm one of the seemingly few Windows users in that circle. If this is a reasonable request, my key is attached here.
[...]

I am a Windows user too, and try to at least get the test suite running on Windows releases before they go live. Not always easy, though.

regards
 Steve

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From techtonik at gmail.com  Tue Jan 25 11:34:30 2011
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:34:30 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Request for commit access RE: download/windows
	page
In-Reply-To: <6E01DB7E-0875-4B29-8C08-928023DC97AC@holdenweb.com>
References: <AANLkTinxX8m-hWsNH6mTaibmBb8=T=vs710Gy1fbXZ0T@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E01DB7E-0875-4B29-8C08-928023DC97AC@holdenweb.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=+dZBtOrCdu2DR8V07OK2G7DHybzS9GexK3zVx@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not surprised, that page is a disgrace. So, first of all, reassurance
> that almost any change is likely to be fpor the better,

This is not the only page in a disgrace. The barrier for contribution
is too high. When you become a master of public/private keys work, you
won't be interested in python.org pages.

When python-patch was started I thought about online editor for
documentation to allow users submitting patches for .rst sources
directly from site and without commit access. Recently Google reminded
me of this idea with their online editor for Google Code.

I can't see any major problems to do this stuff. If I find cheap air
tickets to PyCon, we could  organize a sprint over this idea.
http://code.google.com/p/pydotorg/issues/detail?id=6

> [...]
> I am a Windows user too, and try to at least get the test suite running on
> Windows releases before they go live. Not always easy, though.

Aren't there any Windows buildbots for this purpose?
-- 
anatoly t.

From georg at python.org  Tue Jan 25 21:39:13 2011
From: georg at python.org (Georg Brandl)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:39:13 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Request for commit access RE: download/windows
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>> [...]
>> I am a Windows user too, and try to at least get the test suite running on
>> Windows releases before they go live. Not always easy, though.
> 
> Aren't there any Windows buildbots for this purpose?

Of course there are Windows buildbots, but it is always nice to get as much
testing as possible, especially on platforms that few of the developers use
and are notorious for subtle breakage.

Georg
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From martin at v.loewis.de  Wed Jan 26 00:30:45 2011
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:30:45 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Request for commit access RE: download/windows
 page
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinxX8m-hWsNH6mTaibmBb8=T=vs710Gy1fbXZ0T@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxX8m-hWsNH6mTaibmBb8=T=vs710Gy1fbXZ0T@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D3F5D25.2010006@v.loewis.de>

Am 25.01.2011 04:21, schrieb Brian Curtin:
> Michael Foord reached out to Tim Golden and myself to work on and
> maintain the currently outdated http://www.python.org/download/windows/
> page, and I'd like to help.
> 
> I'm new to this particular list so I'm not sure what crossover there may
> be from python-dev and others, but I have CPython commit access and I'm
> one of the seemingly few Windows users in that circle. If this is a
> reasonable request, my key is attached here.

I have now added your key. Sorry it took so long.

Regards,
Martin

From ctrachte at gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 02:37:47 2011
From: ctrachte at gmail.com (Carl Trachte)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:37:47 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Asian Characters On Sidebar On Frontpage
Message-ID: <AANLkTimEnd1N5LPMWLhay1ge24bq5W7oKjFmJg=-jfVY@mail.gmail.com>

There are some Asian characters on the left sidebar on the frontpage
of www.python.org.  Was this by design?

Carl T.

From mb.dhananjay at gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 02:49:08 2011
From: mb.dhananjay at gmail.com (dhananjay)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:19:08 +0530
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python Workshop.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinLJQnDTG41i_UwjTyvDedLUMFrNv=53Y5aUjk7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinLJQnDTG41i_UwjTyvDedLUMFrNv=53Y5aUjk7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=ZvJB7KHJFe+HOkhSsL2K5=LVUf0Md3m6U5LsZ@mail.gmail.com>

Hai All,

The Institution of Engineering and Technology, College Of Engineering,
Trivandrum, Kerala, India.

Student Branch is organizing a one day workshop about python
programming, The event is scheduled on 29th of January 2011, at CET
Campus.
Mr. Vimal Joseph from Zyxware Technologies will lead the
workshop.

All Interested people are welcome to event.

I am attaching the poster of the event.



--
Regards,

Dhananjay.

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From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Jan 28 03:44:39 2011
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:44:39 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Asian Characters On Sidebar On Frontpage
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On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Carl Trachte wrote:

> There are some Asian characters on the left sidebar on the frontpage
> of www.python.org.  Was this by design?
> 
> Carl T.

Yes. Chinese users have been having difficulty downloading. The text means "download", and the URL is different from the one people have been having trouble with.

regards
 Steve



From skip at pobox.com  Fri Jan 28 11:52:23 2011
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:52:23 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Asian Characters On Sidebar On Frontpage
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimEnd1N5LPMWLhay1ge24bq5W7oKjFmJg=-jfVY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimEnd1N5LPMWLhay1ge24bq5W7oKjFmJg=-jfVY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19778.40935.771157.720013@montanaro.dyndns.org>


    Carl> There are some Asian characters on the left sidebar on the
    Carl> frontpage of www.python.org.  Was this by design?

Yes, I believe Martin added the Chinese characters for "download".

Skip


From patcam at python.org  Sun Jan 30 19:56:52 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:56:52 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- December 2010
Message-ID: <AANLkTikvSO_+v4TbvWr2Lf28W1K_Jtb+58MtEXe9oSng@mail.gmail.com>

Hello:

Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online at
http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/ the usual web locations.

Please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
December 2010.

Is there a reason why the October and the November 2010 board meeting
minutes have not been posted online? They were emailed to you months
ago.

If I can assist in any way, please let me know.

Thanks,
 Pat

-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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| The Python Software Foundation
| Minutes of a Regular Meeting of the Board of Directors
|
| December 20, 2010
|
| 

A regular meeting of the Python Software Foundation ("PSF") Board of
Directors was held over Internet Relay Chat beginning at 16:00 UTC, 20
December 2010. Steve Holden presided at the meeting. Pat Campbell
prepared the minutes.

All votes are reported in the form "*Y-N-A*" (*in favor ? opposed ?
abstentions*; e.g. "5-1-2" means "5 in favor, 1 opposed, and 2
abstentions").


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Attendance                                  
==========

The following members of the Board of Directors were present at the
meeting: Raymond Hettinger, Steve Holden, Marc-Andre Lemburg, Martin 
v. L?wis, David Mertz, Jesse Noller, Tim Peters, Allison Randal, Jeff 
Rush, James Tauber, and Gloria Willadsen. Also in attendance were 
Kurt Kaiser (Treasurer), and Pat Campbell (Secretary & Administrator).


Minutes of Past Meetings
========================

The 15 November 2010 Board meeting minutes were voted on and approved.

Approved, 8-0-3.


Votes Taken Between Meetings
============================

There were no votes taken since the last Board meeting held on 15
November 2010.


Treasurer Report                                                               																			                                                                                           
================

The monthly Treasurer's Report was provided to Board members by K. 
Kaiser prior to the Board meeting and produced from Quickbooks Online
where the year 2009 has come to a close.  

The treasurer's focus for the beginning of the year 2011 starts out with 
PSF Sponsor Member invoices:

"My focus is currently on PSF Sponsor Member invoices, AR and AP 
reduction, and implementation of the financial aspects of the Associate
Member program. With respect to the latter, I've begun setting up a new
PayFlow Pro account using our new processor, since MatrixMaxx can't
interface to our existing PayFlow account."


Progress Report                                                                                                                                                                                             .
===============

The following board reports were submitted to the board mailing list
one week prior to this month's meeting. Please see a summary of each
board report listed below and a possible board discussion to follow:


Communication Status                                                               
--------------------

D. Hellmann, Communication Officer, reported continued activities from 
last month, by saying:

   1. Paulo Nuin is working on a post about the PyPI mirroring project.

   2. Engelbert Gruber is working on interview questions for a post about
   the new PyCon web site.

As far as new activities for the month are concerned, he reported:

   1. Jobs Board Maintainer change post by Mike Driscoll
   
      http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2010/12/python-jobs-board-maintainer-changing.html
   
   2. SciPy India grant post by Paulo Nuin
   
      http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2010/12/psf-supports-2010-scipy-india.html

For items planned for next month and ongoing projects, D. Hellmann reported
respectively:

   1. Post linking to the news article about Vern Ceder's Python
      programming class for high school students.
   
   Facebook stats, as of 13 Dec.
   
   | 10,782 monthly active users, up 7,567 since last week
   | 20,826 people like this, up 442 since last week
   | 130 wall posts and comments this week, up 78 since last week
   | 2,030 visits this week, up 430 since last week
   

Core Development Tasks
----------------------

B. Cannon, Core Development Tasks Project, will begin working
on this 2-month project in January 2011. B. Cannon said, "My goal 
is to have the dev docs finished by the end of January with hopes 
of having a very solid (with hopes of substantial) start on the 
Python 2 to 3 porting HOWTO."


HAM WebPages/Links
------------------

P. Campbell, Honorary Associate Membership (HAM) WebPages Start-up 
Project, reported continued activities from last month, by saying
"Andrew Kuchling of Matrix Maxx and Kurt Kaiser our PSF treasurer are now
working together with MatrixMaxx, a CMS program and PayFlow Pro, an
accounting program to make the new Honorary Associate Membership a reality.
 
With the use of the MatrixMaxx program our expectations are for full
automation of the HAM membership signup, fee payment, annual renewals, etc.
without the need for manual intervention."

Board Discussion:

S. Holden: "Happy to see that we may soon have some movement on being able
to sign up HAMs. That's been stalled for too long now."


Infrastructure Committee
------------------------

S. Reifschneider, Infrastructure Committee Chair, reported the following
work initiated for the month:

    1.Martin set up DNS for the Polish Python Coders group.They were
    losing access to their previous domain at www.python.org.pl because 
    the domain owner wanted to commercialize it. COMPLETED.
 

Marketing Material                                                                 
------------------

M.A.Lemburg, Marketing Material Project Manager, presented a marketing
material proposal to the board that was discussed and voted on (see topic
below for vote results -- Pre-Finance & Underwrite Python Brochure).


Moving PyPI to Amazon CloudFront
--------------------------------

The project leader, M.A. Lemburg, Moving PyPI to Amazon CloudFront, provided 
a purpose for his project by saying, "The project is intended to improve the 
availability, uptime and performance of PyPI for use by automatic package 
installation tools.

The main idea is to make all PyPI static content available via Amazon 
Cloudfront, a content delivery network maintained by Amazon."

MAL hopes to get his project started by early 2011. He would also like
to start recruiting for volunteers to help implement the startup facets of
the project.


PyCon US Website                                                                  
----------------

D. Napoleone, PyCon US Website Project, reported continued activities from 
last month, by saying: 

   1. Registration Launched

   Registration is now live, and after a minor problem with
   donation notifications, has worked with no problems.
   We have record registrations for this period.

   2. Talk, Tutorial, and Poster reviews are progressing

   There were some minor complications with the software
   for reviewing submitted materials, but they have all been
   resolved.

For items planned for next month and ongoing projects, D. Napoleone reported
respectively:

   1. New schedule system from Eldarion
   
   1. Bug fixes and feature requests.
   
   2. Archival of old PyCon websites.

Board Discussion:

S. Holden: "I'd like to be sure the PyCon website is supporting financial assistance 
properly - jnoller, any idea on that?"

J. Noller: "FA (Financial Aid) is accepting applications."

S. Holden: "Fine, thanks."


Sprint Committee
----------------

J. Noller, Sprint Committee Chair, reported continued activities from last month,
by saying he was "shifting gears to accept applications for funding from all python
projects."

Board Discussion:

S. Holden: "Glad sprints have widened their scope and look forward to seeing the new
documentation."


Trademarks Committee
--------------------

D. Mertz, Trademarks Committee Chair, reported continued activities from last month
by saying the committee "received several requests for use of logo and/or wordmark.
In all cases during the last two months, the requested use was purely nominative and
no additional discussion by the committee was required.The chair or a member provided
clarification to requester in each case."


Pre-Finance & Underwrite Python Brochure
=========================================

   **RESOLVED**,that the PSF pre-finances and underwrites the costs of
   producing a printed Python brochure as outlined in the proposal
   http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/psf-board/2010-December/013532.html.
      
Approved, 6-5-0.  

   
Fund 2010 Summer pyGames Competition
====================================

   **RESOLVED**, that the PSF provide a grant of $1,000 US to sponsor the Summer
   pyGames python based programming competition.

Aproved, 10-0-1.


2010-Q4 Community Service Award Nominations
===========================================

   **RESOLVED**, that the 2010-Q4 PSF Community Service Award be awarded to
   Doug Hellmann and Andrew Kuchling.
   

Approved, 10-0-0.

     
Other Business                        
==============

Indebtedness to D. Goodger
--------------------------

The board discussed the need to move forward on several time-sensitive  
payments to be made to PSF member D. Goodger for services rendered to the 
organization.

Message of Seasonal Cheer!
--------------------------

Towards the end of the meeting the chairman (S. Holden) thanked everyone 
for their hard work and wished everyone "the best for the holidays."

T. Peters: "Cheers!"

S. Holden: "Have a great time, relax, come back refreshed next month!"

P. Campbell:"Happy Holidays"

M. A. Lemburg: Cheers, Happy Holidays!"

G. Willadsen: "Have a great holiday!

J. Rush: "Happy Holidays to all!

K. Kaiser: "Merry Xmas!"


Adjournment
===========

S. Holden adjourned the meeting at 16:52 UTC.

From georg at python.org  Mon Jan 31 11:36:07 2011
From: georg at python.org (Georg Brandl)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:36:07 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Asian Characters On Sidebar On Frontpage
In-Reply-To: <4FFC7E1D-B4CB-4D19-9688-88EE18577B03@holdenweb.com>
References: <AANLkTimEnd1N5LPMWLhay1ge24bq5W7oKjFmJg=-jfVY@mail.gmail.com>
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Am 28.01.2011 03:44, schrieb Steve Holden:
> 
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Carl Trachte wrote:
> 
>> There are some Asian characters on the left sidebar on the frontpage of
>> www.python.org.  Was this by design?
>> 
>> Carl T.
> 
> Yes. Chinese users have been having difficulty downloading. The text means
> "download", and the URL is different from the one people have been having
> trouble with.

BTW, we got feedback from the Chinese user: he called it a great "new year's
present" (the Chinese New Year is on February 3 this year).

As for any improvements, like switching on the browser's Accept-Language,
I won't have time to do that.

cheers,
Georg
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From aclark at aclark.net  Mon Jan 31 16:39:47 2011
From: aclark at aclark.net (Alex Clark)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:39:47 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add Alex Clark's Python-centric Blog to planet
	feed?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikJ6Ux=bH5QZe60D=BZvQZjkSvZQ8BMYDJSnX-G@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinkdYJj0NFjZawcmeP7rJd0bSfC6BNqv5CGTS4Y@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CBEFA34.9030708@python.org>
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Hi Michael, all,

Sorry, what I meant to say is:


   - http://feeds.feedburner.com/aclark/python


And my first entry "In Defense of PyPI" has been posted.

(That way I hopefully won't need to bother you again if the feed address
changes.)


Thanks again,


Alex




On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Alex Clark <aclark at aclark.net> wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> Thanks! Sorry for the two month delay, here it is (planet CC'd):
>
>    - http://blog.aclark.net/category/python/feed
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Michael Foord <mfoord at python.org> wrote:
>
>>  Hey Alex,
>>
>> We'd be happy to do this. For adding to Planet Python we ask for a *Python
>> specific* feed. This is usually done by tagging relevant posts with "python"
>> and providing us with a tag / category specific feed.
>>
>> Could you set this up and send the Python tagged feed URL to planet
>> <planet at python.org> <planet at python.org>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Michael Foord
>>
>> On 20/10/2010 15:10, Alex Clark wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Could someone add http://feeds.feedburner.com/aclark to the Python planet
>> feed list?
>>
>> That is the feed for: http://blog.aclark.net/ where I am planning to post
>> more Python-centric content in the future (formerly Plone-centric).
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From solipsis at pitrou.net  Mon Jan 31 19:59:06 2011
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:59:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems?
Message-ID: <loom.20110131T195302-601@post.gmane.org>


Hello,

It seems code.python.org (perhaps other hosts) sometimes has slight network
problems. Users have been reporting problems coding the hg mirrors recently, see
the latest messages on http://mercurial.selenic.com/bts/issue2595

(the machine itself looks fine, lots of free RAM and disk, idle CPUs; also the
Apache logs don't seem to show any mod_wsgi crashes or issues)

Even a normal static HTTP request can fail on the TCP layer (this is sporadic):

$ curl -v http://code.python.org/robots.txt
* About to connect() to code.python.org port 80 (#0)
*   Trying 82.94.164.162... Timeout
*   Trying 2001:888:2000:d::a2... Failed to connect to 2001:888:2000:d::a2: Le
r?seau n'est pas accessible.
* Succ?s
* couldn't connect to host
* Closing connection #0
curl: (7) Failed to connect to 2001:888:2000:d::a2: Le r?seau n'est pas
accessible.

(This is from a well-connected machine inside a datacenter. The IPv6 error
message means "network not reachable" but what's important is that the IPv4
attempt fails with a timeout)

Regards

Antoine.



From solipsis at pitrou.net  Mon Jan 31 20:05:39 2011
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:05:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems?
References: <loom.20110131T195302-601@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <loom.20110131T200357-779@post.gmane.org>

Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at ...> writes:
> 
> 
> Even a normal static HTTP request can fail on the TCP layer (this is sporadic):

By the way a traceroute launched at the same moment seems to indicate that c.p.o
doesn't always answer:

$ sudo tcptraceroute code.python.org 80
traceroute to code.python.org (82.94.164.162), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  vl2001-swr601-vmr-stdenis.vmr.nerim.net (195.5.228.255)  0.625 ms  1.018 ms
 1.193 ms
 2  gi1-11-800-nb-stdenis-1.nerim.net (194.79.128.241)  0.661 ms  0.740 ms  0.822 ms
 3  te2-4-80-nb-stdenis-2.nerim.net (194.79.128.66)  100.745 ms  100.807 ms 
101.031 ms
 4  te2-2-94-nb-voltaire-1.nerim.net (194.79.131.89)  0.901 ms  1.230 ms  1.226 ms
 5  gi0-1-giaco.nerim.net (194.79.131.78)  9.532 ms  9.571 ms  9.557 ms
 6  ams-ix.tc2.xs4all.net (195.69.144.166)  10.170 ms  10.815 ms  9.893 ms
 7  0.so-2-0-0.xr4.1d12.xs4all.net (194.109.5.9)  10.784 ms  10.333 ms  10.433 ms
 8  te5-4.swcolo2.3d12.xs4all.net (194.109.12.34)  10.295 ms  9.978 ms  10.199 ms
 9  dinsdale.python.org (82.94.164.162)  11.411 ms  10.088 ms *

Regards

Antoine.



From amk at amk.ca  Mon Jan 31 20:58:42 2011
From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:58:42 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- December
 2010
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Message-ID: <20110131195842.GA6321@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net>

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 01:56:52PM -0500, Pat Campbell wrote:
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online at
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/ the usual web locations.

Done, for Oct-Dec 2010.  Sorry for the delay.

--amk


From amk at amk.ca  Mon Jan 31 21:09:28 2011
From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:09:28 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Update PSF Community Awards Webpage - with
 December 2010 winners
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinL2Yf2Rq=sBXRKjYoTnw4jZ7=wtrNfXB-vJuC1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinL2Yf2Rq=sBXRKjYoTnw4jZ7=wtrNfXB-vJuC1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110131200928.GB6321@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net>

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 04:38:03PM -0500, Pat Campbell wrote:
> Update PSF Community Awards Webpage: Could you please update the ?Python
> Software Foundation Community Awards? at
> http://www.python.org/community/awards/psf-awards/ with the following update
> information: *December 2010*

Done.

--amk