From sheep at sheep.art.pl  Wed Nov  2 20:02:07 2011
From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:02:07 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: wiki.python.org
In-Reply-To: <CACQrdOmfLTbv+xt0ULxpuSdovB_Nu=NLoOL8D98FXkdbPO85fQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D689A98C54264212862A93C35C5EBC4F@gmail.com>
	<CACQrdOmfLTbv+xt0ULxpuSdovB_Nu=NLoOL8D98FXkdbPO85fQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2VPS01p4dsrW27VqQJQtG_qQA2gNPtaDmxgrwhUfE_oO-27g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 15:38, Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com> wrote:
> FYI; from a user
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Donald Stufft <donald.stufft at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:04 AM
> Subject: wiki.python.org
> To: jnoller at python.org
>
>
> Hello!
> I had asked your wife if you had anything to do with the python.org
> website and she said you did and directed me to email you.
> On wiki.python.org the logo in the top left should take you back to
> http://python.org/. There doesn't currently appear to be an easy way
> to get back, and there is a "Front Page" link already in the
> navigation for going to the front page of the wiki. Alternatively some
> sort of "Return to Python.org" Link in the same approximate location
> would also suffice.
> Thanks for your Time!
> Donald Stufft
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>

The logo now links to python.org

-- 
Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl

From jnoller at gmail.com  Wed Nov  2 21:00:32 2011
From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:00:32 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: wiki.python.org
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2VPS01p4dsrW27VqQJQtG_qQA2gNPtaDmxgrwhUfE_oO-27g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D689A98C54264212862A93C35C5EBC4F@gmail.com>
	<CACQrdOmfLTbv+xt0ULxpuSdovB_Nu=NLoOL8D98FXkdbPO85fQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS01p4dsrW27VqQJQtG_qQA2gNPtaDmxgrwhUfE_oO-27g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FA620355C6BF4B69AA2FBA4E07192722@gmail.com>

thank you 


On Wednesday, November 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Radomir Dopieralski wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 15:38, Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com (mailto:jnoller at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > FYI; from a user
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Donald Stufft <donald.stufft at gmail.com (mailto:donald.stufft at gmail.com)>
> > Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:04 AM
> > Subject: wiki.python.org (http://wiki.python.org)
> > To: jnoller at python.org (mailto:jnoller at python.org)
> > 
> > 
> > Hello!
> > I had asked your wife if you had anything to do with the python.org (http://python.org)
> > website and she said you did and directed me to email you.
> > On wiki.python.org (http://wiki.python.org) the logo in the top left should take you back to
> > http://python.org/. There doesn't currently appear to be an easy way
> > to get back, and there is a "Front Page" link already in the
> > navigation for going to the front page of the wiki. Alternatively some
> > sort of "Return to Python.org (http://Python.org)" Link in the same approximate location
> > would also suffice.
> > Thanks for your Time!
> > Donald Stufft
> > _______________________________________________
> > pydotorg-www mailing list
> > pydotorg-www at python.org (mailto:pydotorg-www at python.org)
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
> 
> 
> 
> The logo now links to python.org (http://python.org)
> 
> -- 
> Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl




From patcam at python.org  Thu Nov  3 18:38:05 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:38:05 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] =?windows-1252?q?Contributor_Agreement_Webpage_Upd?=
	=?windows-1252?q?ate_Request_=96_11/3/11?=
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dJLxeB3LpsCYf30UEbG-m4EPVa-_1o6WMrXxqY=N5p_hA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Pydotorg:



Could you please update the contributor agreement webpage

below?



http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/





Please replace the following two links (email address):



psf at python.org



The two links can be found on line 1 and line 8 (counting from

the bottom of the webpage).



Please see the replacement links (email address) below:



contributors at python.org



If you have any questions, please let me know.



Thanking you in advance,



Pat


-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 19:29:00 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:29:00 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Board Resolutions from July through September
 2011 Board Meetings - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4d+vgVS48F4Da=s9wfFfbyybmgZV3Bu9nLh9m-bufexbiQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4d+vgVS48F4Da=s9wfFfbyybmgZV3Bu9nLh9m-bufexbiQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWworXKOUpeWLbs0d04B42J9Tdh0W3OZ3_GgEgtMMWSvsxQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 17:12, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hi pydotorg team:
>
>
>
> Could you please add the following board resolutions from
>
> the July through September 2011 board meeting to this web page:
>
>
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/

Sorry for the delay - this has been completed.

From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 20:00:47 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:00:47 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- September
 2011 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dLAiWnGKFW4TkEMu8DXzSbqGgMGWpJqH6mDZ5RN=f9=zw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLAiWnGKFW4TkEMu8DXzSbqGgMGWpJqH6mDZ5RN=f9=zw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwoO8zwYCpTsDExRROPtLAYfg_xJ9NJ1i=nUbscHoM=tfw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 17:01, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/? at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachments for the approved board meeting minutes for
> September 2011.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat

This has been completed.

From patcam at python.org  Thu Nov  3 20:09:28 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:09:28 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Board Resolutions from July through September
 2011 Board Meetings - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWworXKOUpeWLbs0d04B42J9Tdh0W3OZ3_GgEgtMMWSvsxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4d+vgVS48F4Da=s9wfFfbyybmgZV3Bu9nLh9m-bufexbiQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWworXKOUpeWLbs0d04B42J9Tdh0W3OZ3_GgEgtMMWSvsxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dJ0WHmpXgWCy7HQBQFtndW3U6ysfneDmjdCFQac4jBMwg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks a whole bunch Brian.
Pat

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 17:12, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> > Hi pydotorg team:
> >
> >
> >
> > Could you please add the following board resolutions from
> >
> > the July through September 2011 board meeting to this web page:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/
>
> Sorry for the delay - this has been completed.
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From patcam at python.org  Thu Nov  3 20:10:16 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:10:16 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- September
 2011 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwoO8zwYCpTsDExRROPtLAYfg_xJ9NJ1i=nUbscHoM=tfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLAiWnGKFW4TkEMu8DXzSbqGgMGWpJqH6mDZ5RN=f9=zw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwoO8zwYCpTsDExRROPtLAYfg_xJ9NJ1i=nUbscHoM=tfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dKPoeiNZqYHS6meJ_DP18tFooBEx+=k_mJ_Gudykv0qPg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Brian.
Pat

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 17:01, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> > Hello Pydotorg:
> >
> > Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> > http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> > locations:
> > please see the attachments for the approved board meeting minutes for
> > September 2011.
> >
> > If you have any questions, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pat
>
> This has been completed.
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 20:23:36 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:23:36 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF Committees - webpage - please update
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dJAe-14ahVejUP-NCCqFXZt1TJ1BCP=BjGktuKdvNpoDw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJAe-14ahVejUP-NCCqFXZt1TJ1BCP=BjGktuKdvNpoDw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwrQT9xDNXfa1czDJC__3jQM27dQ6VTm=kN5X32WOK0p5A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 20:57, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:

> Hi Pydotorg:
>
> 1. Could you please replace the following information on the *PSF
> Committees* webpage at http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the
> heading:  ?Active Committees, Infrastructure Committee (IC)? from:
> Infrastructure Committee (IC) <http://www.python.org/psf/committees/#id4>
>
> 2. Could you please add the following information to the *PSF Committees*webpage at
> http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the heading:  ?Active
> Committees, Outreach & Education Committee (OREC)?:
> Outreach & Education Committee (OREC)<http://www.python.org/psf/committees/#id5>
>
> 3. Could you please add the following information to the *PSF Committees*webpage at
> http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the heading:  ?Active
> Committees, Sprint Committee (SC)?:
> Sprint Committee (SC) <http://www.python.org/psf/committees/#id5>
>
> 4. Could you please replace the following information on the *PSF
> Committees* webpage at http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the
> heading:  ?Active Committees, Trademarks Committee (TMC)? from:
> Trademarks Committee (TMC) <http://www.python.org/psf/committees/#id5>


Sorry for the delay, but http://www.python.org/psf/committees is now up to
date.
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From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 22:19:36 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:19:36 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www]
	=?windows-1252?q?Contributor_Agreement_Webpage_Upd?=
	=?windows-1252?q?ate_Request_=96_11/3/11?=
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dJLxeB3LpsCYf30UEbG-m4EPVa-_1o6WMrXxqY=N5p_hA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJLxeB3LpsCYf30UEbG-m4EPVa-_1o6WMrXxqY=N5p_hA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwpTmnVwm2yuhK6tAPR21j=aYKg1O0fq3CtoNYRGC4EO9g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:38, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg:
>
>
>
> Could you please update the contributor agreement webpage
>
> below?
>
>
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/

http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/ is now updated

From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 22:33:19 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:33:19 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Update April 18,
 2011 Board Meeting Minutes - Section 10
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dJ2+RdCW6bG2oLNdZqAwK7=Cq4RH=xmkiopcn-sZNWHAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJ2+RdCW6bG2oLNdZqAwK7=Cq4RH=xmkiopcn-sZNWHAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwooTmA+ptA24nfK2X91yT-ZkAva2e+BPTyq3RWsHCj00w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 13:20, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg Team:
>
>
>
> Could you please update the April 18, 2011 board meeting minutes?
>
>
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2011-04-18/

This is now updated.

From patcam at python.org  Fri Nov  4 01:39:24 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 20:39:24 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF Committees - webpage - please update
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwrQT9xDNXfa1czDJC__3jQM27dQ6VTm=kN5X32WOK0p5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJAe-14ahVejUP-NCCqFXZt1TJ1BCP=BjGktuKdvNpoDw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwrQT9xDNXfa1czDJC__3jQM27dQ6VTm=kN5X32WOK0p5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dJLzXGw2TucLXFozOv2aKRws2pjRdOQQn=qzFq2VOCXew@mail.gmail.com>

Thank-you Brian.
Pat

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 20:57, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pydotorg:
>>
>> 1. Could you please replace the following information on the *PSF
>> Committees* webpage at http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the
>> heading:  ?Active Committees, Infrastructure Committee (IC)? from:
>> Infrastructure Committee (IC) <http://www.python.org/psf/committees/#id4>
>>
>> 2. Could you please add the following information to the *PSF Committees*webpage at
>> http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the heading:  ?Active
>> Committees, Outreach & Education Committee (OREC)?:
>> Outreach & Education Committee (OREC)<http://www.python.org/psf/committees/#id5>
>>
>> 3. Could you please add the following information to the *PSF Committees*webpage at
>> http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the heading:  ?Active
>> Committees, Sprint Committee (SC)?:
>> Sprint Committee (SC) <http://www.python.org/psf/committees/#id5>
>>
>> 4. Could you please replace the following information on the *PSF
>> Committees* webpage at http://www.python.org/psf/committees/ under the
>> heading:  ?Active Committees, Trademarks Committee (TMC)? from:
>> Trademarks Committee (TMC) <http://www.python.org/psf/committees/#id5>
>
>
> Sorry for the delay, but http://www.python.org/psf/committees is now up
> to date.
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From patcam at python.org  Fri Nov  4 01:41:42 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 20:41:42 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www]
	=?windows-1252?q?Contributor_Agreement_Webpage_Upd?=
	=?windows-1252?q?ate_Request_=96_11/3/11?=
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwpTmnVwm2yuhK6tAPR21j=aYKg1O0fq3CtoNYRGC4EO9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJLxeB3LpsCYf30UEbG-m4EPVa-_1o6WMrXxqY=N5p_hA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwpTmnVwm2yuhK6tAPR21j=aYKg1O0fq3CtoNYRGC4EO9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4d+0pcd=yQOW1+zrMLBHDtyguDZ4vW2-ai8ZvJZ0_QCk3A@mail.gmail.com>

Looks great! Thanks Brian.
Pat

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:38, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> > Hi Pydotorg:
> >
> >
> >
> > Could you please update the contributor agreement webpage
> >
> > below?
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/ is now updated
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From patcam at python.org  Fri Nov  4 01:42:29 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 20:42:29 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Update April 18,
 2011 Board Meeting Minutes - Section 10
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwooTmA+ptA24nfK2X91yT-ZkAva2e+BPTyq3RWsHCj00w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJ2+RdCW6bG2oLNdZqAwK7=Cq4RH=xmkiopcn-sZNWHAw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwooTmA+ptA24nfK2X91yT-ZkAva2e+BPTyq3RWsHCj00w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dJBsWcUd0LHZiK02KqijMYj0uU8pe9Q0Y9g1iK5w-EMMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Brian!!
Pat

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 13:20, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> > Hi Pydotorg Team:
> >
> >
> >
> > Could you please update the April 18, 2011 board meeting minutes?
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2011-04-18/
>
> This is now updated.
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Fri Nov  4 16:36:38 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:36:38 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Recently requested several Items to be posted
	online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4d+AbM+gmuNJs+_JTvdD-ROk5Etno7kdc0S8TtVngYVzOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4d+AbM+gmuNJs+_JTvdD-ROk5Etno7kdc0S8TtVngYVzOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwq4syPgvWiz6qcp_GjUqQfKtADEhpk56B6Yccb18fty9Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 15:13, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg Team:
>
> I have recently requested to have several items posted online and
> the requested items have not been posted.
>
> In the past, most request are usually done within a week of the
> request. Is there some kind of an issue?
>
> I hope everything is okay :).
>
> Please let me know if I need to re-submit the items that are
> in need of replacing the current out-of-date online material.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Pat

I think we're all caught up now. Is there anything I missed?

From patcam at python.org  Fri Nov  4 18:34:12 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 13:34:12 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] 2011 PSF Community Service Award webpage -
	Please Update
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dJ6d8ENiJHBG8_bYp=ge2LR448jSMWvXtf_M+D9NYdWjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJ6d8ENiJHBG8_bYp=ge2LR448jSMWvXtf_M+D9NYdWjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dKFGz0fRqBS1vXcohyskCvwCaB67qFV0KicjQugB0AJmw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Brian:

Please see the request in the email below.

Thanks,
Pat

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:

> Hi Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please update the ?Python Software Foundation Community Awards?
> at http://www.python.org/community/awards/psf-awards/ with the following
> information? *September 2011*
>
> The following awards were announced on October 4, 2011 in a *PSF blog
> article*:
>
> ?         *Arc Riley **was awarded in recognition of his dedicated
> long-term support of the PSF?s Summer of Code activities and domain
> management. *
>
> *?         **Nick Coghlan **was awarded in recognition of his outstanding
> core development *work and technical leadership, particularly with
> reference to the core-mentorship list.**
>
> The Python Software Foundation is pleased to recognize Arc and Nick?s
> contributions to the community.**
> *April 2011*
>
> The following awards were announced on October 3, 2011 in a *PSF blog
> article*:
>
> ?         *Laura Creighton* *was awarded in recognition of her continuous
> efforts in making community events happen and especially for her work with
> the PyPy team.*
>
> *?         **Tarek Ziade' **was awarded in recognition of his hard work
> on getting Python packaging back on track, maintaining distutils, forking
> setuptools into distribute, and working on a new package manager called pip.
> *
>
> The Python Software Foundation is pleased to recognize Laura and Tarek?s
> contributions to the community.
> *January 2011*
>
> The following awards were announced on September 29, 2011 in a *PSF blog
> article*:
>
> ?         *Van Lindberg **was awarded in recognition of his *leadership
> work on PyCon for the past two years as well as the pro bono work done for
> the PSF over the years.
>
> *?         **Benjamin Peterson **was awarded in recognition of his *work
> as release manager and the numerous contributions to the Python Core.**
>
> The Python Software Foundation is pleased to recognize Van and Benjamin?s
> contributions to the community.**
>
> Thanks a whole lot,
> Pat
>
> --
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org
>



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From patcam at python.org  Fri Nov  4 18:39:15 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 13:39:15 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Recently requested several Items to be posted
	online
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwq4syPgvWiz6qcp_GjUqQfKtADEhpk56B6Yccb18fty9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4d+AbM+gmuNJs+_JTvdD-ROk5Etno7kdc0S8TtVngYVzOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwq4syPgvWiz6qcp_GjUqQfKtADEhpk56B6Yccb18fty9Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4d+8HsmkVDqd8XU0Cq+tMHYMAB4LQeMVmOe=TbddisnhNA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Brian:

Thanks for the inquiry. I have sent a posting request to you via
pydotorg regarding the Community Service Awards webpage update.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks again,
Pat

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 15:13, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> > Hi Pydotorg Team:
> >
> > I have recently requested to have several items posted online and
> > the requested items have not been posted.
> >
> > In the past, most request are usually done within a week of the
> > request. Is there some kind of an issue?
> >
> > I hope everything is okay :).
> >
> > Please let me know if I need to re-submit the items that are
> > in need of replacing the current out-of-date online material.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Pat
>
> I think we're all caught up now. Is there anything I missed?
>



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From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Fri Nov  4 18:57:58 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:57:58 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] 2011 PSF Community Service Award webpage -
	Please Update
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dKFGz0fRqBS1vXcohyskCvwCaB67qFV0KicjQugB0AJmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJ6d8ENiJHBG8_bYp=ge2LR448jSMWvXtf_M+D9NYdWjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFy_4dKFGz0fRqBS1vXcohyskCvwCaB67qFV0KicjQugB0AJmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwpS9LtuNK7QeVOP8KqCFKsBrxqenA4Jsb=xz2-e7zKxpQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:34, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hi Brian:
>
> Please see the request in the email below.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pydotorg:
>>
>> Could you please update the ?Python Software Foundation Community Awards?
>> at http://www.python.org/community/awards/psf-awards/ with the following
>> information?

http://www.python.org/community/awards/psf-awards is now updated.

From patcam at python.org  Fri Nov  4 19:01:20 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 14:01:20 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] 2011 PSF Community Service Award webpage -
	Please Update
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwpS9LtuNK7QeVOP8KqCFKsBrxqenA4Jsb=xz2-e7zKxpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJ6d8ENiJHBG8_bYp=ge2LR448jSMWvXtf_M+D9NYdWjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFy_4dKFGz0fRqBS1vXcohyskCvwCaB67qFV0KicjQugB0AJmw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwpS9LtuNK7QeVOP8KqCFKsBrxqenA4Jsb=xz2-e7zKxpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dLRb05Z31XcG8QTKkCjAno1nuiaDEnQxye5nsy+_JPL0g@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Brian. You are a true champion!!
Pat

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:34, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> > Hi Brian:
> >
> > Please see the request in the email below.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pat
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Pydotorg:
> >>
> >> Could you please update the ?Python Software Foundation Community
> Awards?
> >> at http://www.python.org/community/awards/psf-awards/ with the
> following
> >> information?
>
> http://www.python.org/community/awards/psf-awards is now updated.
>



-- 
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From techtonik at gmail.com  Tue Nov  8 20:09:22 2011
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 22:09:22 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI is offline
Message-ID: <CAPkN8x+6GMaj=aWUxNhThGBNw1a8VAFQpBa8nWyGZH=U6kuXAQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.isup.me/pypi.python.org
--
anatoly t.

From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Tue Nov  8 20:14:19 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:14:19 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI is offline
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8x+6GMaj=aWUxNhThGBNw1a8VAFQpBa8nWyGZH=U6kuXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8x+6GMaj=aWUxNhThGBNw1a8VAFQpBa8nWyGZH=U6kuXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwo1DjaLwsJjw60rktMD-h59yx6U8gUV9jJUVw_NkfN67g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 13:09, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.isup.me/pypi.python.org

Works for me, and that page agrees: "It's just you.
http://pypi.python.org is up."

From noah at coderanger.net  Tue Nov  8 20:12:31 2011
From: noah at coderanger.net (Noah Kantrowitz)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:12:31 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI is offline
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8x+6GMaj=aWUxNhThGBNw1a8VAFQpBa8nWyGZH=U6kuXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8x+6GMaj=aWUxNhThGBNw1a8VAFQpBa8nWyGZH=U6kuXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CD1D995-F306-48A5-A8EE-A84175B50A0C@coderanger.net>

Kicked it, thanks for the report!

--Noah

On Nov 8, 2011, at 11:09 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote:

> http://www.isup.me/pypi.python.org
> --
> anatoly t.
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From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Tue Nov  8 22:45:03 2011
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:45:03 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI is offline
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On 08/11/2011 19:14, Brian Curtin wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 13:09, anatoly techtonik<techtonik at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> http://www.isup.me/pypi.python.org
>
> Works for me, and that page agrees: "It's just you.
> http://pypi.python.org is up."

It was definitely down for a while there :-P

Chris

-- 
Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting
            - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

From richard at python.org  Wed Nov  9 00:24:09 2011
From: richard at python.org (Richard Jones)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 10:24:09 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI is offline
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwo1DjaLwsJjw60rktMD-h59yx6U8gUV9jJUVw_NkfN67g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8x+6GMaj=aWUxNhThGBNw1a8VAFQpBa8nWyGZH=U6kuXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwo1DjaLwsJjw60rktMD-h59yx6U8gUV9jJUVw_NkfN67g@mail.gmail.com>
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On 9 November 2011 06:14, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 13:09, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.isup.me/pypi.python.org
>
> Works for me, and that page agrees: "It's just you.
> http://pypi.python.org is up."

Thanks for the report. Going by the times in the email headers
(2011-11-08 20:00 to 20:09 CET) I've looked through the logs and there
was a 6 minute period during which the request handling rate tapered
right off. Not sure what the cause could have been at this time.
There's a ton of what appear to be delayed requests finishing up
around that time, which I've seen before. Interleaved with the
requests timestamped above are some with timestamps of 5-10 minutes
earlier from a variety of clients. I've discussed this with Martin
before but with no real conclusion.


     Richard

From noah at coderanger.net  Wed Nov  9 00:29:06 2011
From: noah at coderanger.net (Noah Kantrowitz)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:29:06 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI is offline
In-Reply-To: <CAHrZfZAp0xXwnLvo4chkKZXTiE=RxZDzE=r+KN1FvF5hS+cmNw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8x+6GMaj=aWUxNhThGBNw1a8VAFQpBa8nWyGZH=U6kuXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Nov 8, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Richard Jones wrote:

> On 9 November 2011 06:14, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 13:09, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.isup.me/pypi.python.org
>> 
>> Works for me, and that page agrees: "It's just you.
>> http://pypi.python.org is up."
> 
> Thanks for the report. Going by the times in the email headers
> (2011-11-08 20:00 to 20:09 CET) I've looked through the logs and there
> was a 6 minute period during which the request handling rate tapered
> right off. Not sure what the cause could have been at this time.
> There's a ton of what appear to be delayed requests finishing up
> around that time, which I've seen before. Interleaved with the
> requests timestamped above are some with timestamps of 5-10 minutes
> earlier from a variety of clients. I've discussed this with Martin
> before but with no real conclusion.

When I got to the machine I could tell from the load averages that it was just recovering from some kind of load spike. Something like 14, 50, 150.

--Noah
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From techtonik at gmail.com  Wed Nov  9 07:10:54 2011
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:10:54 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI is offline
In-Reply-To: <CAHrZfZAp0xXwnLvo4chkKZXTiE=RxZDzE=r+KN1FvF5hS+cmNw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8x+6GMaj=aWUxNhThGBNw1a8VAFQpBa8nWyGZH=U6kuXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Richard Jones <richard at python.org> wrote:
> On 9 November 2011 06:14, Brian Curtin <brian.curtin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 13:09, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.isup.me/pypi.python.org
>>
>> Works for me, and that page agrees: "It's just you.
>> http://pypi.python.org is up."
>
> Thanks for the report. Going by the times in the email headers
> (2011-11-08 20:00 to 20:09 CET) I've looked through the logs and there
> was a 6 minute period during which the request handling rate tapered
> right off. Not sure what the cause could have been at this time.
> There's a ton of what appear to be delayed requests finishing up
> around that time, which I've seen before. Interleaved with the
> requests timestamped above are some with timestamps of 5-10 minutes
> earlier from a variety of clients. I've discussed this with Martin
> before but with no real conclusion.

What is the configuration of this server? I mean all components
including proxies, caches and servers participating in handling
requests?
--
anatoly t.

From martin at v.loewis.de  Tue Nov 22 20:51:51 2011
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:51:51 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI now running on nginx+uwsgi
Message-ID: <4ECBFD57.9030200@v.loewis.de>

I have switched the PyPI installation to nginx and uwsgi.
The start scripts are in /etc/init.d/{nginx,pypi}; the configuration
in /etc/nginx and /data/pypi/config.ini. Log files go to /log as usual.

Regards,
Martin

From p at python.org  Tue Nov 22 21:56:48 2011
From: p at python.org (Patrick Ben Koetter)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:56:48 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI now running on nginx+uwsgi
In-Reply-To: <4ECBFD57.9030200@v.loewis.de>
References: <4ECBFD57.9030200@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <20111122205648.GB2254@state-of-mind.de>

* "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de>:
> I have switched the PyPI installation to nginx and uwsgi.
> The start scripts are in /etc/init.d/{nginx,pypi}; the configuration
> in /etc/nginx and /data/pypi/config.ini. Log files go to /log as usual.

Out of curiosity: Why?

p at rick

-- 
Patrick Ben Koetter <patrick at python.org>
Python.org Postmaster Team


From martin at v.loewis.de  Tue Nov 22 22:12:41 2011
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:12:41 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI now running on nginx+uwsgi
In-Reply-To: <20111122205648.GB2254@state-of-mind.de>
References: <4ECBFD57.9030200@v.loewis.de>
	<20111122205648.GB2254@state-of-mind.de>
Message-ID: <4ECC1049.6040403@v.loewis.de>

Am 22.11.2011 21:56, schrieb Patrick Ben Koetter:
> * "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de>:
>> I have switched the PyPI installation to nginx and uwsgi.
>> The start scripts are in /etc/init.d/{nginx,pypi}; the configuration
>> in /etc/nginx and /data/pypi/config.ini. Log files go to /log as usual.
> 
> Out of curiosity: Why?

I hope that it can deal better with the overload cases that (possibly)
have constantly caused outages over the last few months. Load average
would occasionally go to 250, and apache spawn 2400 threads (*), in
overload situations. With nginx, this shouldn't happen (IIUC), it will
continue to serve files with low load even if all the PyPI processes
become unresponsive.

In addition, I also switched to uwsgi (primarily because it's one
of nginx's supported integrations of Python apps). I found that uwsgi
supports a timeout on single requests, which I set to 60s. So any
PyPI request taking longer than 60s (and I think these actually happened
in the past) will get killed, which should help to overcome overload
situations more quickly, and to allow continuing service to "regular"
users even in abuse situations.

Of course, whether this actually works out, we will see.

Regards,
Martin

(*) one may wonder: why did he set the thread limit to 2400 then?
Because when I didn't, people would be locked out of PyPI, when it
said that it couldn't take any additional clients, even though the
CPU load was "low".

From p at python.org  Tue Nov 22 22:40:57 2011
From: p at python.org (Patrick Ben Koetter)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:40:57 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI now running on nginx+uwsgi
In-Reply-To: <4ECC1049.6040403@v.loewis.de>
References: <4ECBFD57.9030200@v.loewis.de>
	<20111122205648.GB2254@state-of-mind.de>
	<4ECC1049.6040403@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <20111122214056.GD2254@state-of-mind.de>

* "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de>:
> Am 22.11.2011 21:56, schrieb Patrick Ben Koetter:
> > * "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de>:
> >> I have switched the PyPI installation to nginx and uwsgi.
> >> The start scripts are in /etc/init.d/{nginx,pypi}; the configuration
> >> in /etc/nginx and /data/pypi/config.ini. Log files go to /log as usual.
> > 
> > Out of curiosity: Why?
> 
> I hope that it can deal better with the overload cases that (possibly)
> have constantly caused outages over the last few months. Load average
> would occasionally go to 250, and apache spawn 2400 threads (*), in
> overload situations. With nginx, this shouldn't happen (IIUC), it will
> continue to serve files with low load even if all the PyPI processes
> become unresponsive.
> 
> In addition, I also switched to uwsgi (primarily because it's one
> of nginx's supported integrations of Python apps). I found that uwsgi
> supports a timeout on single requests, which I set to 60s. So any
> PyPI request taking longer than 60s (and I think these actually happened
> in the past) will get killed, which should help to overcome overload
> situations more quickly, and to allow continuing service to "regular"
> users even in abuse situations.
> 
> Of course, whether this actually works out, we will see.

If a web cache helps with PyPi, we could add varnish
<https://www.varnish-cache.org/>. It has been praised all over the place. Ralf
and I happen to know the author. Dunno if that would open a door, but I would
try if we think we need help.

p at rick

-- 
Patrick Ben Koetter <patrick at python.org>
Python.org Postmaster Team


From martin at v.loewis.de  Tue Nov 22 22:49:27 2011
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:49:27 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI now running on nginx+uwsgi
In-Reply-To: <20111122214056.GD2254@state-of-mind.de>
References: <4ECBFD57.9030200@v.loewis.de>	<20111122205648.GB2254@state-of-mind.de>	<4ECC1049.6040403@v.loewis.de>
	<20111122214056.GD2254@state-of-mind.de>
Message-ID: <4ECC18E7.9060509@v.loewis.de>

> If a web cache helps with PyPi, we could add varnish
> <https://www.varnish-cache.org/>. It has been praised all over the place. Ralf
> and I happen to know the author. Dunno if that would open a door, but I would
> try if we think we need help.

I'm very skeptical with respect to caching. It can be a source of
problems on its own.

Regards,
Martin

From p at python.org  Tue Nov 22 22:55:25 2011
From: p at python.org (Patrick Ben Koetter)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:55:25 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI now running on nginx+uwsgi
In-Reply-To: <4ECC18E7.9060509@v.loewis.de>
References: <4ECBFD57.9030200@v.loewis.de>
	<20111122205648.GB2254@state-of-mind.de>
	<4ECC1049.6040403@v.loewis.de>
	<20111122214056.GD2254@state-of-mind.de>
	<4ECC18E7.9060509@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <20111122215525.GE2254@state-of-mind.de>

* "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de>:
> > If a web cache helps with PyPi, we could add varnish
> > <https://www.varnish-cache.org/>. It has been praised all over the place. Ralf
> > and I happen to know the author. Dunno if that would open a door, but I would
> > try if we think we need help.
> 
> I'm very skeptical with respect to caching. It can be a source of
> problems on its own.

Yes, it can.

If we need to examine such alternatives I recommend using varnish.

p at rick

-- 
Patrick Ben Koetter <patrick at python.org>
Python.org Postmaster Team


From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Wed Nov 23 08:37:45 2011
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 07:37:45 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI now running on nginx+uwsgi
In-Reply-To: <4ECC18E7.9060509@v.loewis.de>
References: <4ECBFD57.9030200@v.loewis.de>	<20111122205648.GB2254@state-of-mind.de>	<4ECC1049.6040403@v.loewis.de>
	<20111122214056.GD2254@state-of-mind.de>
	<4ECC18E7.9060509@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <4ECCA2C9.2010205@simplistix.co.uk>

On 22/11/2011 21:49, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
>> If a web cache helps with PyPi, we could add varnish
>> <https://www.varnish-cache.org/>. It has been praised all over the place. Ralf
>> and I happen to know the author. Dunno if that would open a door, but I would
>> try if we think we need help.
>
> I'm very skeptical with respect to caching. It can be a source of
> problems on its own.

I would strongly advocate a Varnish cache for add read-only actions.
(ie: non-auth'd views of anything).

This is simply good practice when building a web app such as PyPI.

cheers,

Chris

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             - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

From patcam at python.org  Wed Nov 23 20:35:20 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:35:20 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- Octover 2011 -
	Please Post Online
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dLfWK=C2QuWi-DKPEcV4muE+Si1xgxsCVuEbq6cNHhV5g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Pydotorg:

Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
locations:
please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
October 2011.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,
Pat


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From brian at python.org  Wed Nov 23 21:28:22 2011
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:28:22 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- Octover
 2011 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dLfWK=C2QuWi-DKPEcV4muE+Si1xgxsCVuEbq6cNHhV5g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLfWK=C2QuWi-DKPEcV4muE+Si1xgxsCVuEbq6cNHhV5g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwqFn33M3AoJWy73O6r=2S7cNFx6m=NgkP3S1NRVpz0rsw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 13:35, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:

> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> October 2011.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat


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From patcam at python.org  Wed Nov 23 21:47:04 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:47:04 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- Octover
 2011 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwqFn33M3AoJWy73O6r=2S7cNFx6m=NgkP3S1NRVpz0rsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLfWK=C2QuWi-DKPEcV4muE+Si1xgxsCVuEbq6cNHhV5g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwqFn33M3AoJWy73O6r=2S7cNFx6m=NgkP3S1NRVpz0rsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dJeA0vJbjvu-HSx5KJzvsYKjCEsOMfLTEDFNLxton=0Bw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Brian & Happy Thanksgiving!!
Pat

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Brian Curtin <brian at python.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 13:35, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello Pydotorg:
>>
>> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
>> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
>> locations:
>> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
>> October 2011.
>>
>> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pat
>
>
> Posted: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2011-10-17/
>



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From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Nov 25 06:50:51 2011
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:50:51 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Can you give a speech video for PyConChina2011?
References: <CALyjmLMeGArmtavGiYxsWCyOzEUmw4Tb8tXZJ0CzG2y8L+dO2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39F67CF4-4CC4-474D-8493-3E9A0686F250@holdenweb.com>

Hi, pydotorg (assuming there's anyone there ...)

I wonder if someone would have the time to advertise the first PyCon in China, coming up on December 3 and 4. Over 300 people are expected.

Thanks in advance.

regards
 Steve

Begin forwarded message:

> Please also help to add a  PyCon in China link to the pycon.org website.
> 
> 

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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Fri Nov 25 16:41:06 2011
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:41:06 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Can you give a speech video for
 PyConChina2011?
In-Reply-To: <39F67CF4-4CC4-474D-8493-3E9A0686F250@holdenweb.com>
References: <CALyjmLMeGArmtavGiYxsWCyOzEUmw4Tb8tXZJ0CzG2y8L+dO2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<39F67CF4-4CC4-474D-8493-3E9A0686F250@holdenweb.com>
Message-ID: <20111125154106.GD7042@panix.com>

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011, Steve Holden wrote:
>
> Hi, pydotorg (assuming there's anyone there ...)
> 
> I wonder if someone would have the time to advertise the first PyCon
> in China, coming up on December 3 and 4. Over 300 people are expected.

I'd have time to post it but not write it up.
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

WiFi is the SCSI of the 21st Century -- there are fundamental technical
reasons for sacrificing a goat.  (with no apologies to John Woods)

From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Nov 25 16:56:49 2011
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:56:49 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
References: <14dae934126b6f660804b2910dd8@google.com>
Message-ID: <507CB492-C9BF-4930-8EEE-37BE6572F411@holdenweb.com>

Oops!

S

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon at googlemail.com>
> Date: November 25, 2011 7:46:12 AM PST
> To: steve at holdenweb.com
> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> 
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> 
>     aahz at pythoncraft.com
> 
> Technical details of permanent failure: 
> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.1.0 <steve at holdenweb.com>: Sender address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table (state 14).
> 
> ----- Original message -----
> 
> Received: by 10.50.216.167 with SMTP id or7mr38741734igc.22.1322235971429;
>        Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:46:11 -0800 (PST)
> Return-Path: <steve at holdenweb.com>
> Received: from [192.168.1.120] (c-67-170-153-110.hsd1.or.comcast.net. [67.170.153.110])
>        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dm1sm49147802igb.6.2011.11.25.07.46.09
>        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
>        Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:46:10 -0800 (PST)
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084)
> Subject: Re: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Can you give a speech video for PyConChina2011?
> From: Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>
> In-Reply-To: <20111125154106.GD7042 at panix.com>
> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:46:07 -0800
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Message-Id: <8E78FA4C-3442-4E3C-8AC5-D1B1AA9CA268 at holdenweb.com>
> References: <CALyjmLMeGArmtavGiYxsWCyOzEUmw4Tb8tXZJ0CzG2y8L+dO2g at mail.gmail.com> <39F67CF4-4CC4-474D-8493-3E9A0686F250 at holdenweb.com> <20111125154106.GD7042 at panix.com>
> To: Aahz <aahz at pythoncraft.com>
> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084)
> 
> I was just talking about a front-page news item - something like "First PyCon in China, Shanghai, December 3-4" with a link to cn.pycon.org.
> 
> regards
> Steve
> 
> On Nov 25, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Aahz wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011, Steve Holden wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, pydotorg (assuming there's anyone there ...)
>>> 
>>> I wonder if someone would have the time to advertise the first PyCon
>>> in China, coming up on December 3 and 4. Over 300 people are expected.
>> 
>> I'd have time to post it but not write it up.
>> -- 
>> Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/
>> 
>> WiFi is the SCSI of the 21st Century -- there are fundamental technical
>> reasons for sacrificing a goat.  (with no apologies to John Woods)
> 
> -- 
> Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com,  Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/
> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/
> 
> 
> 

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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Fri Nov 25 19:36:04 2011
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:36:04 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] China PyCon
In-Reply-To: <507CB492-C9BF-4930-8EEE-37BE6572F411@holdenweb.com>
References: <14dae934126b6f660804b2910dd8@google.com>
	<507CB492-C9BF-4930-8EEE-37BE6572F411@holdenweb.com>
Message-ID: <20111125183604.GA15088@panix.com>

That's bizarre.  What with Stefan's e-mail also failing, I think teh
Intertubes is haz bad hair day.  Anyway, posted -- lemme know if you want
anything different.

BTW, the link to cn.pycon.org is precisely what I was missing earlier.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011, Steve Holden wrote:
>
> Oops!
> 
> S
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon at googlemail.com>
> > Date: November 25, 2011 7:46:12 AM PST
> > To: steve at holdenweb.com
> > Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> > 
> > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> > 
> >     aahz at pythoncraft.com
> > 
> > Technical details of permanent failure: 
> > Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.1.0 <steve at holdenweb.com>: Sender address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table (state 14).
> > 
> > ----- Original message -----
> > 
> > Received: by 10.50.216.167 with SMTP id or7mr38741734igc.22.1322235971429;
> >        Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:46:11 -0800 (PST)
> > Return-Path: <steve at holdenweb.com>
> > Received: from [192.168.1.120] (c-67-170-153-110.hsd1.or.comcast.net. [67.170.153.110])
> >        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dm1sm49147802igb.6.2011.11.25.07.46.09
> >        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
> >        Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:46:10 -0800 (PST)
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084)
> > Subject: Re: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Can you give a speech video for PyConChina2011?
> > From: Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>
> > In-Reply-To: <20111125154106.GD7042 at panix.com>
> > Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:46:07 -0800
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > Message-Id: <8E78FA4C-3442-4E3C-8AC5-D1B1AA9CA268 at holdenweb.com>
> > References: <CALyjmLMeGArmtavGiYxsWCyOzEUmw4Tb8tXZJ0CzG2y8L+dO2g at mail.gmail.com> <39F67CF4-4CC4-474D-8493-3E9A0686F250 at holdenweb.com> <20111125154106.GD7042 at panix.com>
> > To: Aahz <aahz at pythoncraft.com>
> > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084)
> > 
> > I was just talking about a front-page news item - something like "First PyCon in China, Shanghai, December 3-4" with a link to cn.pycon.org.
> > 
> > regards
> > Steve
> > 
> > On Nov 25, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Aahz wrote:
> > 
> >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011, Steve Holden wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi, pydotorg (assuming there's anyone there ...)
> >>> 
> >>> I wonder if someone would have the time to advertise the first PyCon
> >>> in China, coming up on December 3 and 4. Over 300 people are expected.
> >> 
> >> I'd have time to post it but not write it up.
> >> -- 
> >> Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/
> >> 
> >> WiFi is the SCSI of the 21st Century -- there are fundamental technical
> >> reasons for sacrificing a goat.  (with no apologies to John Woods)
> > 
> > -- 
> > Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com,  Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/
> > Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com,  Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/
> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/
> 
> 
> 

> _______________________________________________
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> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www


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WiFi is the SCSI of the 21st Century -- there are fundamental technical
reasons for sacrificing a goat.  (with no apologies to John Woods)

From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Nov 25 22:16:38 2011
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:16:38 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] China PyCon
In-Reply-To: <20111125183604.GA15088@panix.com>
References: <14dae934126b6f660804b2910dd8@google.com>
	<507CB492-C9BF-4930-8EEE-37BE6572F411@holdenweb.com>
	<20111125183604.GA15088@panix.com>
Message-ID: <C4F60C3D-BEF0-4438-B0E4-6ECCA7AAD3F2@holdenweb.com>

Thanks very much, that's pretty much all that's needed. Thought you'd know about the country-code third-level domains thing for pycon.org, but happy to provide it. Let's see if this gets through now.

regards
 Steve

On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Aahz wrote:

> That's bizarre.  What with Stefan's e-mail also failing, I think teh
> Intertubes is haz bad hair day.  Anyway, posted -- lemme know if you want
> anything different.
> 
> BTW, the link to cn.pycon.org is precisely what I was missing earlier.
> 

-- 
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From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Nov 25 22:35:11 2011
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:35:11 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
References: <000e0cdf15ec74b7e304b295ab66@google.com>
Message-ID: <F9C1430F-B947-4776-8FA7-4227059F4E68@holdenweb.com>

Still happening. But when you read the error message that's not surprising, because it seems to be an SMTP server setup issue. pythoncraft.com's SMTP server's Postscript doesn't know who "aahz" is.

S

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon at googlemail.com>
> Date: November 25, 2011 1:16:43 PM PST
> To: steve at holdenweb.com
> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> 
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> 
>     aahz at pythoncraft.com
> 
> Technical details of permanent failure: 
> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.1.0 <steve at holdenweb.com>: Sender address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table (state 14).
> 
> ----- Original message -----
> 
> Received: by 10.231.82.12 with SMTP id z12mr524917ibk.36.1322255802690;
>        Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:16:42 -0800 (PST)
> Return-Path: <steve at holdenweb.com>
> Received: from [192.168.1.120] (c-67-170-153-110.hsd1.or.comcast.net. [67.170.153.110])
>        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a2sm60029965igj.7.2011.11.25.13.16.40
>        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
>        Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:16:41 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [pydotorg-www] China PyCon
> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084)
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-351215142
> From: Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>
> In-Reply-To: <20111125183604.GA15088 at panix.com>
> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:16:38 -0800
> Cc: pydotorg-www <pydotorg-www at python.org>
> Message-Id: <C4F60C3D-BEF0-4438-B0E4-6ECCA7AAD3F2 at holdenweb.com>
> References: <14dae934126b6f660804b2910dd8 at google.com> <507CB492-C9BF-4930-8EEE-37BE6572F411 at holdenweb.com> <20111125183604.GA15088 at panix.com>
> To: Aahz <aahz at pythoncraft.com>
> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084)
> 
> Thanks very much, that's pretty much all that's needed. Thought you'd know about the country-code third-level domains thing for pycon.org, but happy to provide it. Let's see if this gets through now.
> 
> regards
> Steve
> 
> On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Aahz wrote:
> 
>> That's bizarre.  What with Stefan's e-mail also failing, I think teh
>> Intertubes is haz bad hair day.  Anyway, posted -- lemme know if you want
>> anything different.
>> 
>> BTW, the link to cn.pycon.org is precisely what I was missing earlier.
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com,  Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/
> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/
> 
> 
> 

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From Ralf.Hildebrandt at charite.de  Sat Nov 26 10:52:24 2011
From: Ralf.Hildebrandt at charite.de (Ralf Hildebrandt)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 10:52:24 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
In-Reply-To: <F9C1430F-B947-4776-8FA7-4227059F4E68@holdenweb.com>
References: <000e0cdf15ec74b7e304b295ab66@google.com>
	<F9C1430F-B947-4776-8FA7-4227059F4E68@holdenweb.com>
Message-ID: <20111126095224.GD25436@charite.de>

* Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>:

> Still happening. But when you read the error message that's not
> surprising, because it seems to be an SMTP server setup issue.
> pythoncraft.com's SMTP server's Postscript doesn't know who "aahz" is.

Yes, but the MX setup for holdenweb.com is also broken:

Host/Domain: holdenweb.com
MX: aspmx.l.google.com(10)
MX: alt2.aspmx.l.google.com(20)
MX: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com(20)
MX: asmpx3.googlemail.com(50)
asmpx3.googlemail.com NXDOMAIN
MX: asmpx5.googlemail.com(50)
asmpx5.googlemail.com NXDOMAIN

Remove the two non existing MX records (NXDOMAIN)


> >     aahz at pythoncraft.com

That one seems to work again.

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From skip at montanaro.dyndns.org  Wed Nov 30 15:41:14 2011
From: skip at montanaro.dyndns.org (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:41:14 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Internal Server Error while reverting spam
Message-ID: <20111130144114.7841F21093B4@montanaro.dyndns.org>

Trying to back out the latest (spam) change to the MelbournePUG wiki page
I'm getting an Internal Server Error response.  I'd go look up the error
message but I can never figure out where the log files live. 

Skip

From richard at python.org  Wed Nov 30 21:38:23 2011
From: richard at python.org (Richard Jones)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 07:38:23 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Internal Server Error while reverting spam
In-Reply-To: <20111130144114.7841F21093B4@montanaro.dyndns.org>
References: <20111130144114.7841F21093B4@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <CAHrZfZBpAyz9uZe9s8BtMmr+US06ocU6==9uLiYEi14odVmaJA@mail.gmail.com>

On 1 December 2011 01:41, Skip Montanaro <skip at montanaro.dyndns.org> wrote:
> Trying to back out the latest (spam) change to the MelbournePUG wiki page
> I'm getting an Internal Server Error response. ?I'd go look up the error
> message but I can never figure out where the log files live.

Thanks for the spam vigilance - I got a change notification email and
the edit stuck so I wonder what could've caused the error?

BTW why are bit.ly links disallowed in wiki pages? I definitely
promote the j.mp URL these days over the bit.ly one but they're
effectively the same (same company).


     Richard

From skip at pobox.com  Wed Nov 30 23:51:34 2011
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:51:34 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Internal Server Error while reverting spam
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    Richard> Thanks for the spam vigilance - I got a change notification
    Richard> email and the edit stuck so I wonder what could've caused the
    Richard> error?

That's a strange one.  I eventually found the log file and saw the warning
about bit.ly URLs, so I just deleted it.

    Richard> BTW why are bit.ly links disallowed in wiki pages? I definitely
    Richard> promote the j.mp URL these days over the bit.ly one but they're
    Richard> effectively the same (same company).

It looks like Paul Boddie added added bit.ly, t.co and goo.gl as patterns in
LocalBadContent back in October.  His comment was

    Added some link-shorteners. These should never be used in this
    environment.

I'll leave it for him to elaborate.  I've CC'd him in case he's not on the
pydotorg-www list.

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