From patcam at python.org  Fri Sep  2 00:50:32 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:50:32 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] invoicing for Strakt Holdings
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTiksHSoY-djC7-bd24eEXHjftYk=MQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201105261446.p4QEkFhh000826@theraft.openend.se>
	<patcam@python.org>
	<BANLkTikYJ-YSTVC-ikG-f3Nn3XYvhhhAdA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<BANLkTiksHSoY-djC7-bd24eEXHjftYk=MQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dJsvWhoidycYN7HDt20uEXjcJxfyoSoJ6CgLV+=qKgkYg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Pydotorg:

Could you please make the changes to the sponsor member roster
page http://www.python.org/psf/members/ described by Laura Creighton
of Open End AB below:

Email Message from Laura:

 Can you please change Strakt Holdings, Inc., since July 2002, represented
by Laura Creighton to   Open End AB, (formerly AB Strakt)., since July 2002,

represented by Laura Creighton and make the link point to
http://www.eutaxia.eu/

  Thank you very much.
  Laura

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,
Pat

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:

> Hi Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please remove the Sponsor logo and sponsor web url for
> Strakt Holdings Inc and replace it with the Sponsor logo and sponsor
> web url for Open End AB on this PSF home page:
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/
>
> Please see Open End AB logo and url in the attachment.
>
> http://www.eutaxia.eu/
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se> wrote:
>
>> In a message of Thu, 26 May 2011 14:30:32 EDT, Pat Campbell writes:
>> >--000e0cd17c9a2f54a604a4320440
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>> >
>> >Hi Laura:
>> >
>> >
>> >We thank you for your 2011 contribution to the PSF. I am forwarding your
>> >request
>> >
>> > for an invoice to be sent to Strakt Holdings Inc in the amount of $2000
>> >to
>> >our
>> >
>> >treasurer, Kurt Kaiser.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Also, we will change the Sponsor name to Open End AB. Could you send me t
>> >he
>> >
>> >Open End AB logo that you want placed on the PSF website?
>>
>> can you use the same one that is on pycon 2011?  We were a sponsor.
>> It says 'Eutaxia by Open End'
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Laura
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Again, thanks
>> >
>> >Pat
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> 1. We would like to be invoiced for 2,000 USD
>> >> 2. We would like to change the Sponsor Name from Strakt Holdings Inc
>> >> to Open End AB for the purposes ot logo placement on the PSF page.
>> >> Open End AB is a subsidiary of Strakt Holdings, but for advertising
>> >> purposes it is Open End that we wish to make visible and not the
>> >> Holding Company.  The holding company wants to pay, though, since
>> >> it is a US company and can save some small amount on taxes this way.
>> >>
>> >> Laura
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Pat Campbell
>> >PSF Administrator/Secretary
>> >patcam at python.org
>> >
>> >--000e0cd17c9a2f54a604a4320440
>> >Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> ><div>Hi Laura:</div><div>=A0</div><div><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New
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>> >al">
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>> >t =
>> >placed on the </font><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman">PSF websit
>> >e?=
>> ></font></p><p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; padding: 0in; border: current
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>> >n:=
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>> >al"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman">Again, thanks</font></p>
>> ><p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; padding: 0in; border: currentColor; mso-
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>> >t>=
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>> >A0=
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>> ><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"></font>=A0</p><font size=3D"3"
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>> >A0=
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>> >
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>> >A0=
>> ></font></p>
>> ><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman">
>> >
>> ></font>On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Laura Creighton <span dir=3D"ltr
>> >">=
>> >&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lac at openend.se">lac at openend.se</a>&gt;</span>
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>> >rder-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
>> >1. We would like to be invoiced for 2,000 USD<br>
>> >2. We would like to change the Sponsor Name from Strakt Holdings Inc<br>
>> >to Open End AB for the purposes ot logo placement on the PSF page.<br>
>> >Open End AB is a subsidiary of Strakt Holdings, but for advertising<br>
>> >purposes it is Open End that we wish to make visible and not the<br>
>> >Holding Company. =A0The holding company wants to pay, though, since<br>
>> >it is a US company and can save some small amount on taxes this way.<br>
>> ><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
>> >Laura<br>
>> ></font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Pat Campbell<b
>> >r>=
>> >PSF Administrator/Secretary<br><a href=3D"mailto:patcam at python.org
>> ">patca
>> >m@=
>> >python.org</a><br>
>> >
>> >--000e0cd17c9a2f54a604a4320440--
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From techtonik at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 07:25:09 2011
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:25:09 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI OpenID Traceback
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xL-bpGUb-n-_Gwde4mzznHRsh6am1gvTytz7TxrAWt+Lg@mail.gmail.com>

I've just receib=ved the following info from PyPI. Hope you'll be
interested to investigate.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/data/pypi/src/pypi/pypi.fcgi", line 29, in handle_request
    handler = WebUI(request, env)
  File "/data/pypi/src/pypi/webui.py", line 222, in __init__
    self.oid_server =
OpenIDServer.Server(FileOpenIDStore(OPENID_FILESTORE),
op_endpoint=self.op_endpoint)
AttributeError: WebUI instance has no attribute 'op_endpoint'

--
anatoly t.

From richard at python.org  Mon Sep  5 07:27:41 2011
From: richard at python.org (Richard Jones)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:27:41 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI OpenID Traceback
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xL-bpGUb-n-_Gwde4mzznHRsh6am1gvTytz7TxrAWt+Lg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xL-bpGUb-n-_Gwde4mzznHRsh6am1gvTytz7TxrAWt+Lg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHrZfZA4r7enEX+f-fNkjRmUJ=JSfGxJ73h_VvNQdZ2Owqc06Q@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, thanks. It's since been fixed.

On 5 September 2011 15:25, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've just receib=ved the following info from PyPI. Hope you'll be
> interested to investigate.
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> ?File "/data/pypi/src/pypi/pypi.fcgi", line 29, in handle_request
> ? ?handler = WebUI(request, env)
> ?File "/data/pypi/src/pypi/webui.py", line 222, in __init__
> ? ?self.oid_server =
> OpenIDServer.Server(FileOpenIDStore(OPENID_FILESTORE),
> op_endpoint=self.op_endpoint)
> AttributeError: WebUI instance has no attribute 'op_endpoint'
>
> --
> anatoly t.
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>

From techtonik at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 11:19:05 2011
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 12:19:05 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyPI OpenID Traceback
In-Reply-To: <CAHrZfZA4r7enEX+f-fNkjRmUJ=JSfGxJ73h_VvNQdZ2Owqc06Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xL-bpGUb-n-_Gwde4mzznHRsh6am1gvTytz7TxrAWt+Lg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHrZfZA4r7enEX+f-fNkjRmUJ=JSfGxJ73h_VvNQdZ2Owqc06Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xKAKXgQqaibsZp6yLaEKzXU81RYMO7M2GFnP-jPz1raBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Is it technically possible to provide a better traceback page so that
not only people with a priory knowledge of pydotorg-ww existence could
_easily_ report PyPI faults if we test our changes live anyway?
--
anatoly t.



On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Richard Jones <richard at python.org> wrote:
> Yes, thanks. It's since been fixed.
>
> On 5 September 2011 15:25, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've just receib=ved the following info from PyPI. Hope you'll be
>> interested to investigate.
>>
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> ?File "/data/pypi/src/pypi/pypi.fcgi", line 29, in handle_request
>> ? ?handler = WebUI(request, env)
>> ?File "/data/pypi/src/pypi/webui.py", line 222, in __init__
>> ? ?self.oid_server =
>> OpenIDServer.Server(FileOpenIDStore(OPENID_FILESTORE),
>> op_endpoint=self.op_endpoint)
>> AttributeError: WebUI instance has no attribute 'op_endpoint'
>>
>> --
>> anatoly t.
>> _______________________________________________
>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>>
>

From davidjensen at usa.net  Tue Sep  6 10:43:58 2011
From: davidjensen at usa.net (David Jensen)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 04:43:58 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Please put a conference listing immediately
Message-ID: <003PiFiQ75792S04.1315298638@web04.cms.usa.net>

Please put up a listing immediately for the PyGotham conference, which is
being held Sept 16-17
in New York. There will be about 200 attendees and we plan to have this an
annual event. www.pygotham.org


David Jensen
Apartment 412
414 West 120th Street
New York, New York 10027
212-866-7094 
preferred:: cell: 646-282-6355
davidjensen at usa.net
 



From doug.hellmann at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 15:03:08 2011
From: doug.hellmann at gmail.com (Doug Hellmann)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:03:08 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Please put a conference listing immediately
In-Reply-To: <003PiFiQ75792S04.1315298638@web04.cms.usa.net>
References: <003PiFiQ75792S04.1315298638@web04.cms.usa.net>
Message-ID: <C4E4F3F1-A9FB-4624-99C2-11DEDBD7CD69@gmail.com>


On Sep 6, 2011, at 4:43 AM, David Jensen wrote:

> Please put up a listing immediately for the PyGotham conference, which is
> being held Sept 16-17
> in New York. There will be about 200 attendees and we plan to have this an
> annual event. www.pygotham.org

Hi, David,

You can add PyGotham to the events page in the wiki (http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEvents) if it isn't already listed.

Did you have another page in mind?

Doug


From carl at personnelware.com  Tue Sep  6 15:57:48 2011
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 06:57:48 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Please put a conference listing immediately
In-Reply-To: <C4E4F3F1-A9FB-4624-99C2-11DEDBD7CD69@gmail.com>
References: <003PiFiQ75792S04.1315298638@web04.cms.usa.net>
	<C4E4F3F1-A9FB-4624-99C2-11DEDBD7CD69@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADmzSSi_yFkOfNXdJUkJDTO2gtxC-ykW8y3hKS2ev=n1VZNU5Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Doug Hellmann <doug.hellmann at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2011, at 4:43 AM, David Jensen wrote:
>
>> Please put up a listing immediately for the PyGotham conference, which is
>> being held Sept 16-17
>> in New York. There will be about 200 attendees and we plan to have this an
>> annual event. www.pygotham.org
>
> Hi, David,
>
> You can add PyGotham to the events page in the wiki (http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEvents) if it isn't already listed.
>
> Did you have another page in mind?
>

http://www.pycon.org/

-- 
Carl K

From skip at pobox.com  Tue Sep  6 16:55:52 2011
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:55:52 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Please put a conference listing immediately
In-Reply-To: <003PiFiQ75792S04.1315298638@web04.cms.usa.net>
References: <003PiFiQ75792S04.1315298638@web04.cms.usa.net>
Message-ID: <20070.13432.163835.647640@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    David> Please put up a listing immediately for the PyGotham conference,
    David> which is being held Sept 16-17 in New York. There will be about
    David> 200 attendees and we plan to have this an annual
    David> event. www.pygotham.org

I added this to the new index.

-- 
Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/

From skip at pobox.com  Tue Sep  6 17:39:00 2011
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:39:00 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Please put a conference listing immediately
In-Reply-To: <20070.13432.163835.647640@montanaro.dyndns.org>
References: <003PiFiQ75792S04.1315298638@web04.cms.usa.net>
	<20070.13432.163835.647640@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <20070.16020.275984.728522@montanaro.dyndns.org>

>>>>> "skip" == skip  <skip at pobox.com> writes:

    David> Please put up a listing immediately for the PyGotham conference,
    David> which is being held Sept 16-17 in New York. There will be about
    David> 200 attendees and we plan to have this an annual
    David> event. www.pygotham.org

    skip> I added this to the new index.

Since it appears there are several places to announce conferences, I should
be more explicit (and correct in my English usage):

    I added this to the news index which feeds http://www.python.org/.

Skip

From noah at coderanger.net  Wed Sep 14 10:43:27 2011
From: noah at coderanger.net (Noah Kantrowitz)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 01:43:27 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] State of the infrastructure project
Message-ID: <8846A543-A3D5-4C32-AD4C-0340F78A0514@coderanger.net>

Just wanted to send out a quick update to all parties about the progress of the infrastructure migration project.

First I would like to welcome three new volunteers to the effort whom many of you likely already know; Jannis Leidel is a long-time international man of packaging mystery and has already been helping to run PyPI, Eric Holscher is a devops-in-residence at Urban Airship in Portland, and Benjamin Smith is the lead server wrangler for Pictage/ShootQ. I look forward to working with all three in the coming weeks and moths.

Next, hosting has not been fully resolved, but I think most of my questions have been addressed with OSUOSL and Cotegix. At OSUOSL we are looking at hosting two physical machines running Ganeti and linked to the OSL Ganeti management backplane (though we may choose to bypass that and use the Ganeti API directly for management). At Contegix we will just operate in their public cloud, which has a custom (but well documented) API for management. In both cases the physical machines and native OSes will be managed by the teams at their respective hosting providers. No formal plans have been made with either host at this time.

On the VM side, there is still an open question about who will be managing things. Some want to see a full-time sysadmin(s) retained by the PSF to manage and maintain the individual VMs, but I don't think there is any agreement yet on that front. For now I am running under the assumption that we will be managing these systems via Chef on a volunteer basis. Several people have already agreed to wear a pager (figuratively speaking of course, do they even make pagers anymore?) and there are talks in progress with the DSF infrastructure team to establish a shared tier one rotation once the new infrastructure is in place.

I have nearly completed my service audit of ximinez and will send out that report when it is complete so people can vet it further. Some currently open questions:

1. Prospect of moving PyPI to Postgres 9 for better replication in a (closer to) HA scenario. I will post this to the catalog-sig group for further discussion after I get done reading the existing Postgres config and re-familiarizing myself with the PyPI codebase.

2. What remote sites are pulling backups of the PyPI package data from the Rsync server on ximinez? I think at least tummy.com is from discussions with Jannis, but a full list would be great.

3. Does anyone know the reason for the Webalizer config being under /usr/local/etc and using a custom cron job instead of the debian-standard locations?

4. Is Postfix on ximinez doing anything other than outbound delivery?

5. Is lpd just a legacy artifact or is there actually a printer (or something that looks like a printer) attached?

If anyone has any questions about the current state of the infrastructure project or wants to make sure something specific gets on the docket to be looked at, please don't hesitate to contact me. Thanks again for everyones' work so far towards a better future for the PSF servers!

--Noah

From techtonik at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 12:53:28 2011
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:53:28 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] VM side (Was: State of the infrastructure project)
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xKhLLuDO7CUQe21=1ucajudVhG3NEv+CEeBdj+UcgmhuA@mail.gmail.com>

About VM side.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Noah Kantrowitz <noah at coderanger.net> wrote:
>
> On the VM side, there is still an open question about who will be managing things. Some want to see a full-time sysadmin(s) retained by the PSF to manage and maintain the individual VMs, but I don't think there is any agreement yet on that front. For now I am running under the assumption that we will be managing these systems via Chef on a volunteer basis.

First, can you post a link to this infrastructure project? I hope it's
not a leak, and I can read somewhere a problem description for VM
side. Right now I am trying Bcfg2 for configuration management and so
far guys were very responsive to answer questions and fix things. ISTM
that Python based software has better chances to survive and receive
needed tweaks (although it won't hurt to get some Ruby experience to
make Python better).

-- 
anatoly t.

From martin at v.loewis.de  Wed Sep 14 17:53:14 2011
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:53:14 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] State of the infrastructure
	project
In-Reply-To: <8846A543-A3D5-4C32-AD4C-0340F78A0514@coderanger.net>
References: <8846A543-A3D5-4C32-AD4C-0340F78A0514@coderanger.net>
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> 1. Prospect of moving PyPI to Postgres 9 for better replication in a
> (closer to) HA scenario. I will post this to the catalog-sig group
> for further discussion after I get done reading the existing Postgres
> config and re-familiarizing myself with the PyPI codebase.

Not sure how software package management and updates will be done.
I personally prefer (and it was policy so far) to use Debian packages,
in order to get Debian upgrades. That would rule out using Postgres 9
at this point.

Also, I'm skeptical that Posgres replication could actually improve 
availability. When PyPI becomes unavailable, it is typically not
because of Postgres, and I would expect that the added complexity
of supporting failover would actually reduce availability, and
introduce the risk of data loss.

> 2. What remote sites are pulling backups of the PyPI package data
> from the Rsync server on ximinez?  I think at least tummy.com is from
> discussions with Jannis, but a full list would be great.

I think that, for the rsync backup, it's only tummy.com. Of course,
there are tons of PyPI mirrors, but they are not using rsync, and
not doing backup.

> 3. Does anyone know the reason for the Webalizer config being under
> /usr/local/etc and using a custom cron job instead of the
> debian-standard locations?

Thomas set this up. I believe the motivation is that only this
setup will support multiple vhosts. It actually supports auto-
detection of vhosts, where new log files will trigger the creation
of new webalyzer configs.

> 4. Is Postfix on ximinez doing anything other than outbound
> delivery?

No.

> 5. Is lpd just a legacy artifact or is there actually a printer (or
> something that looks like a printer) attached?

I think it got installed as a side effect of installing something
else that had printing as a Debian dependency.

> If anyone has any questions about the current state of the
> infrastructure project or wants to make sure something specific gets
> on the docket to be looked at, please don't hesitate to contact me.

I'd still urge that IPv6 connectivity is made a pre-requisite for
switching providers.

Regards,
Martin

From noah at coderanger.net  Wed Sep 14 19:41:40 2011
From: noah at coderanger.net (Noah Kantrowitz)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:41:40 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] State of the infrastructure
	project
In-Reply-To: <4E70CDEA.6090604@v.loewis.de>
References: <8846A543-A3D5-4C32-AD4C-0340F78A0514@coderanger.net>
	<4E70CDEA.6090604@v.loewis.de>
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On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Martin v. L?wis wrote:

>> 1. Prospect of moving PyPI to Postgres 9 for better replication in a
>> (closer to) HA scenario. I will post this to the catalog-sig group
>> for further discussion after I get done reading the existing Postgres
>> config and re-familiarizing myself with the PyPI codebase.
> 
> Not sure how software package management and updates will be done.
> I personally prefer (and it was policy so far) to use Debian packages,
> in order to get Debian upgrades. That would rule out using Postgres 9
> at this point.
> 

The https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql PPA is run by the Postgres lead for Ubuntu and provides both 9.0 and 9.1 for Ubuntu 10.04.

> Also, I'm skeptical that Posgres replication could actually improve availability. When PyPI becomes unavailable, it is typically not
> because of Postgres, and I would expect that the added complexity
> of supporting failover would actually reduce availability, and
> introduce the risk of data loss.
> 
>> 2. What remote sites are pulling backups of the PyPI package data
>> from the Rsync server on ximinez?  I think at least tummy.com is from
>> discussions with Jannis, but a full list would be great.
> 
> I think that, for the rsync backup, it's only tummy.com. Of course,
> there are tons of PyPI mirrors, but they are not using rsync, and
> not doing backup.

Thanks, I'll make sure to note that we coordinate with Sean on that.

> 
>> 3. Does anyone know the reason for the Webalizer config being under
>> /usr/local/etc and using a custom cron job instead of the
>> debian-standard locations?
> 
> Thomas set this up. I believe the motivation is that only this
> setup will support multiple vhosts. It actually supports auto-
> detection of vhosts, where new log files will trigger the creation
> of new webalyzer configs.
> 

Sounds like a good reason to me, thanks!

>> 4. Is Postfix on ximinez doing anything other than outbound
>> delivery?
> 
> No.
> 
>> 5. Is lpd just a legacy artifact or is there actually a printer (or
>> something that looks like a printer) attached?
> 
> I think it got installed as a side effect of installing something
> else that had printing as a Debian dependency.
> 
>> If anyone has any questions about the current state of the
>> infrastructure project or wants to make sure something specific gets
>> on the docket to be looked at, please don't hesitate to contact me.
> 
> I'd still urge that IPv6 connectivity is made a pre-requisite for
> switching providers.

Would a tunneled POP be acceptable? I will talk to OSL and Contegix about how they have handled this in the past.

--Noah


From benjaminwarfield at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 18:31:49 2011
From: benjaminwarfield at gmail.com (Benjamin Smith)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:31:49 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] State of the infrastructure
	project
In-Reply-To: <4E70CDEA.6090604@v.loewis.de>
References: <8846A543-A3D5-4C32-AD4C-0340F78A0514@coderanger.net>
	<4E70CDEA.6090604@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <CALWVVD_pfSiRhS4p7xcM2PTLFCCek-BrCnDMpFY1v7WW-mdNdA@mail.gmail.com>

Adding my $.02 on a couple of points.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:53 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de>wrote:

> 1. Prospect of moving PyPI to Postgres 9 for better replication in a
>> (closer to) HA scenario. I will post this to the catalog-sig group
>> for further discussion after I get done reading the existing Postgres
>> config and re-familiarizing myself with the PyPI codebase.
>>
>
> Not sure how software package management and updates will be done.
> I personally prefer (and it was policy so far) to use Debian packages,
> in order to get Debian upgrades. That would rule out using Postgres 9
> at this point.
>
>
What about:

http://www.openscg.org/se/postgresql/packages.jsp

They're certified, proper binary packages.

I wouldn't want to rely on debian for this. That's like relying on CentOS
for python > 2.4 :(.

I understand policy, but sometimes you have to make exceptions for the sake
of moving forward and stability. This key piece of the infrastructure would
be a prime candidate for an exception.


> Also, I'm skeptical that Posgres replication could actually improve
> availability. When PyPI becomes unavailable, it is typically not
> because of Postgres, and I would expect that the added complexity
> of supporting failover would actually reduce availability, and
> introduce the risk of data loss.


To the contrary, I think that replication could potentially increase
availability. There may not have been a problem with postgres yet, but it is
inevitable. Being prepared would ensure that we're not as
surprised/shocked/frustrated. The complexity is minimal with postgres 9.
It's a few config entries and an rsync, I've done it recently. Management
time is negligible in my experience thus far. See
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Binary_Replication_Tutorial#Binary_Replication_in_6_Steps

Would you rather restore from a backup (timely, painful), or run a script to
fail over (fast, easy)?

As far as data loss is concerned, Postgres 9.1 addresses that
with synchronous replication
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/What's_new_in_PostgreSQL_9.1#Synchronous_replication_and_other_replication_features


>
>  2. What remote sites are pulling backups of the PyPI package data
>> from the Rsync server on ximinez?  I think at least tummy.com is from
>> discussions with Jannis, but a full list would be great.
>>
>
> I think that, for the rsync backup, it's only tummy.com. Of course,
> there are tons of PyPI mirrors, but they are not using rsync, and
> not doing backup.
>
>
>  3. Does anyone know the reason for the Webalizer config being under
>> /usr/local/etc and using a custom cron job instead of the
>> debian-standard locations?
>>
>
> Thomas set this up. I believe the motivation is that only this
> setup will support multiple vhosts. It actually supports auto-
> detection of vhosts, where new log files will trigger the creation
> of new webalyzer configs.
>
>
>  4. Is Postfix on ximinez doing anything other than outbound
>> delivery?
>>
>
> No.
>
>
>  5. Is lpd just a legacy artifact or is there actually a printer (or
>> something that looks like a printer) attached?
>>
>
> I think it got installed as a side effect of installing something
> else that had printing as a Debian dependency.
>
>
>  If anyone has any questions about the current state of the
>> infrastructure project or wants to make sure something specific gets
>> on the docket to be looked at, please don't hesitate to contact me.
>>
>
> I'd still urge that IPv6 connectivity is made a pre-requisite for
> switching providers.
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>
> ______________________________**__________________
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Thu Sep 15 00:45:40 2011
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:45:40 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] State of the infrastructure
 project
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On Wed, Sep 14, 2011, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
>
> I'd still urge that IPv6 connectivity is made a pre-requisite for
> switching providers.

+1 -- webmaster gets regular complaints when IPv6 isn't working, although
usually it's a problem on the complainer's end.  ;-)  It's clear that
IPv6 both is the future and the future is here *now*.

I would hate to see the volume of complaints if we sacrificed IPv6 to
move somewhere.
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

"If you don't know what your program is supposed to do, you'd better not
start writing it."  --Dijkstra

From gotsyk at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 10:37:17 2011
From: gotsyk at gmail.com (Volodymyr Hotsyk)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:37:17 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Including PyCon ukraine to conferences page
Message-ID: <CAGL=t-Kc6kcTBfSw6Q5DoLgCgV0=EhuMwtKrPS1X7vjqAbUHZA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Please include PyCon Ukraine (http://ua.pycon.org) to the the  Conferences
list of python.org (http://www.python.org/community/workshops/)

Thank you!

Regards,
Volodymyr Hotsyk
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From sdeibel at wingware.com  Thu Sep 15 14:31:07 2011
From: sdeibel at wingware.com (Stephan Deibel)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:31:07 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Including PyCon ukraine to conferences page
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On 9/15/11 4:37 AM, Volodymyr Hotsyk wrote:
> Hi,
> Please include PyCon Ukraine (http://ua.pycon.org) to the the 
>  Conferences list of python.org <http://python.org> ( 
> http://www.python.org/community/workshops/)

Hi,

I've just added it.

Thanks,

- Stephan


From martin at v.loewis.de  Thu Sep 15 16:25:32 2011
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:25:32 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] State of the infrastructure
	project
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> The https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql PPA is run by
> the Postgres lead for Ubuntu and provides both 9.0 and 9.1 for Ubuntu
> 10.04.

That would be good enough for me.

>> I'd still urge that IPv6 connectivity is made a pre-requisite for
>> switching providers.
>
> Would a tunneled POP be acceptable? I will talk to OSL and Contegix
> about how they have handled this in the past.

I could accept it (grudgingly :-) provided that there was a convincing
time table from the provider fr native connectivity (for example, OSL 
said, IIUC, "definitely by the end of the year if not earlier"; if they
really mean it, having a tunnel meanwhile would be acceptable). There
is always the risk that the tunnel is flaky (much more so than native
connectivity), in which case the only reaction would be to turn it off,
which would be sad.

Regards,
Martin


From sandro.tosi at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 20:42:59 2011
From: sandro.tosi at gmail.com (Sandro Tosi)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:42:59 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] State of the infrastructure
	project
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On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 19:41, Noah Kantrowitz <noah at coderanger.net> wrote:
>
> On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Martin v. L?wis wrote:
>
>>> 1. Prospect of moving PyPI to Postgres 9 for better replication in a
>>> (closer to) HA scenario. I will post this to the catalog-sig group
>>> for further discussion after I get done reading the existing Postgres
>>> config and re-familiarizing myself with the PyPI codebase.
>>
>> Not sure how software package management and updates will be done.
>> I personally prefer (and it was policy so far) to use Debian packages,
>> in order to get Debian upgrades. That would rule out using Postgres 9
>> at this point.
>>
>
> The https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql PPA is run by the Postgres lead for Ubuntu and provides both 9.0 and 9.1 for Ubuntu 10.04.

but that's also
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/postgresql-9.0 for Debian
Squeeze (stable), handled by Pitt, and that soon will have 9.1 .

Cheers,
-- 
Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu)
My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/
Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi

From patcam at python.org  Tue Sep 20 21:00:05 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:00:05 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] [PSF-Board] Python logo
	sticker donation
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Hi pydotorg:

Could you please add the upcoming "4th annual pyArkansas conference" to the
python.org index page here:

http://python.org/

Also, the pyArkansas conference website link is here:

http://www.pyarkansas.org

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,
Pat

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST) <chad at cast.uark.edu>wrote:

> Got em yesterday, thanks! Here's the site for our conference, could we get
> this event added to calendar list on the python.org index page? I see
> pyGotham is listed there.
>
> http://www.pyarkansas.org
>
> Thanks again.
>
> chad
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chad:
>>
>> Thank-you. Your PSF stickers will go out in tomorrow's mail.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST) <chad at cast.uark.edu>wrote:
>>
>>> Pat, address in sig below. Thanks again!
>>>
>>>
>>> chad
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> Chad Cooper
>>> Geospatial R&D Specialist
>>> Center for Advanced Spatial Technologies
>>> 1 University of Arkansas
>>> JBHT 304
>>> Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
>>> 479.575.5730 (o)
>>> 479.387.0515 (c)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve:
>>>>
>>>> I can send Chad 100 PSF stickers. Do we have a mailing address?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Pat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Pat:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we need to order more stickers or do you have 100 you can send Chad
>>>>> right away, please?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>>  Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 12, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, thanks Steve. Good to know that the events are appreciated. We are
>>>>> expecting around 100 people, could PSF provide that number of stickers to
>>>>> us?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> chad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we plan to keep that kind of quantity on hand at all times for
>>>>>> needs like yours. There really is no need to contribute in cash: this is
>>>>>> meeting our goal of encouraging the growth of the Python community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you'd like to make a donation that's fine, but the contribution of
>>>>>> time and effort you make to put these classes together far outweighs any
>>>>>> financial consideration. Thank you most sincerely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>  Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Chad Cooper (CAST) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve and Pat,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again for the stickers, my workshop students loved them and I
>>>>>> also gave them out some extras at our booth at the conference. I am now
>>>>>> working on our 4th annual pyArkansas (
>>>>>> http://pyarkansas.wordpress.com/) that will once again be held in
>>>>>> Conway, Arkansas on October 22. I would really like some more of the
>>>>>> stickers to give out at our conference. How about this: How much does
>>>>>> printing up the Python 3 stickers that you sent me cost? If it's not too
>>>>>> expense, I'd be willing, through my business, to cover the cost of a hundred
>>>>>> or so for our conference and then some more to give back to the PSF. Could
>>>>>> you get me a cost on the stickers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [redirected to public list]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pat:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How are stocks? Do we have a short of some kind we can send Chad
>>>>>>> (PyCon, maybe, or Holden Web, even?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chad:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please coordinate off-list with Pat. Good luck with your teaching
>>>>>>> work, and thanks for taking the time to promote Python!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>  Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello. I will be teaching a Python for GIS course<http://www.argisusers.org/resources/SyposiumWorkshops2011.pdf>at the upcoming Arkansas
>>>>>>> GIS Users Forum Biennial Symposium<http://www.argisusers.org/symposium2011.php>at the end of August. I would really like some Python logo stickers to give
>>>>>>> out to my students and was wondering if the PSF would be able to donate
>>>>>>> some.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> chad
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Chad Cooper
>>>>>>> Geospatial R&D Specialist
>>>>>>> Center for Advanced Spatial Technologies
>>>>>>> 1 University of Arkansas
>>>>>>> JBHT 304
>>>>>>> Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
>>>>>>> 479.575.5730 (o)
>>>>>>> 479.387.0515 (c)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>>>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>> Steve Holden
>>>>>>> steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>> PSF-Board-Public mailing list
>>>>>> PSF-Board-Public at python.org
>>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board-public
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> Steve Holden
>>>>>> steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>>> Steve Holden
>>>>> steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Pat Campbell
>>>> PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>>> patcam at python.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pat Campbell
>> PSF Administrator/Secretary
>> patcam at python.org
>>
>
>


-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From: sdeibel at wingware.com (Stephan Deibel)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:44:41 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] [PSF-Board] Python logo
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On 9/20/11 3:00 PM, Pat Campbell wrote:
> Hi pydotorg:
>
> Could you please add the upcoming "4th annual pyArkansas conference" 
> to the python.org <http://python.org> index page here:
>
> http://python.org/
>
> Also, the pyArkansas conference website link is here:
>
> http://www.pyarkansas.org <http://www.pyarkansas.org/>

Hi,

I've just added the news item.

- Stephan


From patcam at python.org  Wed Sep 21 20:17:08 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:17:08 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] [PSF-Board] Python logo
	sticker donation
In-Reply-To: <2E19DAC0-BBF6-408B-8008-11B2C654083E@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFy_4dL9sfw=+xRiCheXyuhrH1KX7FNajcbDX2cYF75wfHF+Og@mail.gmail.com>

Hi BJ:

I am not a tech, therefore I do not want to mislead you with an incorrect
answer to your
very important question. :)

I am cc'ing the pydotorg team again with this same request. They usually
take
care of my request to add items to the various Python website pages.

Thanks,
Pat

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:20 AM, BJ Killian <bjkillian1997 at gmail.com> wrote:

> How do i add that?
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Pat Campbell wrote:
>
> Hi pydotorg:
>
> Could you please add the upcoming "4th annual pyArkansas conference" to the
> python.org index page here:
>
> http://python.org/
>
> Also, the pyArkansas conference website link is here:
>
> http://www.pyarkansas.org
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST) <chad at cast.uark.edu>wrote:
>
>> Got em yesterday, thanks! Here's the site for our conference, could we get
>> this event added to calendar list on the python.org index page? I see
>> pyGotham is listed there.
>>
>> http://www.pyarkansas.org
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> chad
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chad:
>>>
>>> Thank-you. Your PSF stickers will go out in tomorrow's mail.
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST) <chad at cast.uark.edu
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pat, address in sig below. Thanks again!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> chad
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> Chad Cooper
>>>> Geospatial R&D Specialist
>>>> Center for Advanced Spatial Technologies
>>>> 1 University of Arkansas
>>>> JBHT 304
>>>> Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
>>>> 479.575.5730 (o)
>>>> 479.387.0515 (c)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can send Chad 100 PSF stickers. Do we have a mailing address?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Pat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pat:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do we need to order more stickers or do you have 100 you can send Chad
>>>>>> right away, please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>  Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, thanks Steve. Good to know that the events are appreciated. We are
>>>>>> expecting around 100 people, could PSF provide that number of stickers to
>>>>>> us?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we plan to keep that kind of quantity on hand at all times
>>>>>>> for needs like yours. There really is no need to contribute in cash: this is
>>>>>>> meeting our goal of encouraging the growth of the Python community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you'd like to make a donation that's fine, but the contribution of
>>>>>>> time and effort you make to put these classes together far outweighs any
>>>>>>> financial consideration. Thank you most sincerely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>  Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Chad Cooper (CAST) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve and Pat,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again for the stickers, my workshop students loved them and I
>>>>>>> also gave them out some extras at our booth at the conference. I am now
>>>>>>> working on our 4th annual pyArkansas (
>>>>>>> http://pyarkansas.wordpress.com/) that will once again be held in
>>>>>>> Conway, Arkansas on October 22. I would really like some more of the
>>>>>>> stickers to give out at our conference. How about this: How much does
>>>>>>> printing up the Python 3 stickers that you sent me cost? If it's not too
>>>>>>> expense, I'd be willing, through my business, to cover the cost of a hundred
>>>>>>> or so for our conference and then some more to give back to the PSF. Could
>>>>>>> you get me a cost on the stickers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> chad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [redirected to public list]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pat:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How are stocks? Do we have a short of some kind we can send Chad
>>>>>>>> (PyCon, maybe, or Holden Web, even?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chad:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please coordinate off-list with Pat. Good luck with your teaching
>>>>>>>> work, and thanks for taking the time to promote Python!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>>  Steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello. I will be teaching a Python for GIS course<http://www.argisusers.org/resources/SyposiumWorkshops2011.pdf>at the upcoming Arkansas
>>>>>>>> GIS Users Forum Biennial Symposium<http://www.argisusers.org/symposium2011.php>at the end of August. I would really like some Python logo stickers to give
>>>>>>>> out to my students and was wondering if the PSF would be able to donate
>>>>>>>> some.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> chad
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Chad Cooper
>>>>>>>> Geospatial R&D Specialist
>>>>>>>> Center for Advanced Spatial Technologies
>>>>>>>> 1 University of Arkansas
>>>>>>>> JBHT 304
>>>>>>>> Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
>>>>>>>> 479.575.5730 (o)
>>>>>>>> 479.387.0515 (c)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>>>>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>>>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>> Steve Holden
>>>>>>>> steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> PSF-Board-Public mailing list
>>>>>>> PSF-Board-Public at python.org
>>>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board-public
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>> Steve Holden
>>>>>>> steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> Steve Holden
>>>>>> steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Pat Campbell
>>>>> PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>>>> patcam at python.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pat Campbell
>>> PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>> patcam at python.org
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>
>
>


-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From sdeibel at wingware.com  Wed Sep 21 20:51:03 2011
From: sdeibel at wingware.com (Stephan Deibel)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:51:03 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] [PSF-Board] Python logo
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I added the pyArkansas listing this morning.  If you were emailing about 
something else please let me know (I didn't see any question in the 
forwarded emails).

- Stephan


On 9/21/11 2:17 PM, Pat Campbell wrote:
> Hi BJ:
>
> I am not a tech, therefore I do not want to mislead you with an 
> incorrect answer to your
> very important question. :)
>
> I am cc'ing the pydotorg team again with this same request. They 
> usually take
> care of my request to add items to the various Python website pages.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:20 AM, BJ Killian <bjkillian1997 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bjkillian1997 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     How do i add that?
>     On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Pat Campbell wrote:
>
>>     Hi pydotorg:
>>
>>     Could you please add the upcoming "4th annual pyArkansas
>>     conference" to the python.org <http://python.org/> index page here:
>>
>>     http://python.org/
>>
>>     Also, the pyArkansas conference website link is here:
>>
>>     http://www.pyarkansas.org <http://www.pyarkansas.org/>
>>
>>     If you have any questions, please let me know.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Pat
>>
>>     On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST)
>>     <chad at cast.uark.edu <mailto:chad at cast.uark.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>         Got em yesterday, thanks! Here's the site for our conference,
>>         could we get this event added to calendar list on the
>>         python.org <http://python.org/> index page? I see pyGotham is
>>         listed there.
>>
>>         http://www.pyarkansas.org <http://www.pyarkansas.org/>
>>
>>         Thanks again.
>>
>>         chad
>>
>>
>>         On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Pat Campbell
>>         <patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi Chad:
>>
>>             Thank-you. Your PSF stickers will go out in tomorrow's mail.
>>
>>             Pat
>>
>>
>>             On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST)
>>             <chad at cast.uark.edu <mailto:chad at cast.uark.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Pat, address in sig below. Thanks again!
>>
>>
>>                 chad
>>
>>                 --------------------------------------------
>>                 Chad Cooper
>>                 Geospatial R&D Specialist
>>                 Center for Advanced Spatial Technologies
>>                 1 University of Arkansas
>>                 JBHT 304
>>                 Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
>>                 479.575.5730 <tel:479.575.5730> (o)
>>                 479.387.0515 <tel:479.387.0515> (c)
>>
>>
>>
>>                 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Pat Campbell
>>                 <patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>> wrote:
>>
>>                     Steve:
>>
>>                     I can send Chad 100 PSF stickers. Do we have a
>>                     mailing address?
>>
>>                     Thanks,
>>                     Pat
>>
>>
>>                     On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Steve Holden
>>                     <steve at holdenweb.com
>>                     <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                         Pat:
>>
>>                         Do we need to order more stickers or do you
>>                         have 100 you can send Chad right away, please?
>>
>>                         regards
>>                          Steve
>>
>>                         On Sep 12, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Chad Cooper
>>                         (CAST) wrote:
>>
>>>                         OK, thanks Steve. Good to know that the
>>>                         events are appreciated. We are expecting
>>>                         around 100 people, could PSF provide that
>>>                         number of stickers to us?
>>>
>>>                         Thanks
>>>
>>>                         chad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                         On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Steve Holden
>>>                         <steve at holdenweb.com
>>>                         <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                             I think we plan to keep that kind of
>>>                             quantity on hand at all times for needs
>>>                             like yours. There really is no need to
>>>                             contribute in cash: this is meeting our
>>>                             goal of encouraging the growth of the
>>>                             Python community.
>>>
>>>                             If you'd like to make a donation that's
>>>                             fine, but the contribution of time and
>>>                             effort you make to put these classes
>>>                             together far outweighs any financial
>>>                             consideration. Thank you most sincerely.
>>>
>>>                             regards
>>>                              Steve
>>>
>>>                             On Sep 6, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Chad Cooper
>>>                             (CAST) wrote:
>>>
>>>>                             Steve and Pat,
>>>>
>>>>                             Thanks again for the stickers, my
>>>>                             workshop students loved them and I also
>>>>                             gave them out some extras at our booth
>>>>                             at the conference. I am now working on
>>>>                             our 4th annual pyArkansas
>>>>                             (http://pyarkansas.wordpress.com/) that
>>>>                             will once again be held in Conway,
>>>>                             Arkansas on October 22. I would really
>>>>                             like some more of the stickers to give
>>>>                             out at our conference. How about this:
>>>>                             How much does printing up the Python 3
>>>>                             stickers that you sent me cost? If it's
>>>>                             not too expense, I'd be willing,
>>>>                             through my business, to cover the cost
>>>>                             of a hundred or so for our conference
>>>>                             and then some more to give back to the
>>>>                             PSF. Could you get me a cost on the
>>>>                             stickers?
>>>>
>>>>                             Thanks
>>>>
>>>>                             chad
>>>>
>>>>                             On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Steve
>>>>                             Holden <steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>                             <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                 [redirected to public list]
>>>>
>>>>                                 Pat:
>>>>
>>>>                                 How are stocks? Do we have a short
>>>>                                 of some kind we can send Chad
>>>>                                 (PyCon, maybe, or Holden Web, even?)
>>>>
>>>>                                 Chad:
>>>>
>>>>                                 Please coordinate off-list with
>>>>                                 Pat. Good luck with your teaching
>>>>                                 work, and thanks for taking the
>>>>                                 time to promote Python!
>>>>
>>>>                                 regards
>>>>                                  Steve
>>>>
>>>>                                 On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Chad
>>>>                                 Cooper (CAST) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>                                 Hello. I will be teaching a Python
>>>>>                                 for GIS course
>>>>>                                 <http://www.argisusers.org/resources/SyposiumWorkshops2011.pdf>
>>>>>                                 at the upcoming Arkansas GIS Users
>>>>>                                 Forum Biennial Symposium
>>>>>                                 <http://www.argisusers.org/symposium2011.php>
>>>>>                                 at the end of August. I would
>>>>>                                 really like some Python logo
>>>>>                                 stickers to give out to my
>>>>>                                 students and was wondering if the
>>>>>                                 PSF would be able to donate some.
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 chad
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 --------------------------------------------
>>>>>                                 Chad Cooper
>>>>>                                 Geospatial R&D Specialist
>>>>>                                 Center for Advanced Spatial
>>>>>                                 Technologies
>>>>>                                 1 University of Arkansas
>>>>>                                 JBHT 304
>>>>>                                 Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
>>>>>                                 479.575.5730 <tel:479.575.5730> (o)
>>>>>                                 479.387.0515 <tel:479.387.0515> (c)
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 _______________________________________________
>>>>>                                 PSF-Board mailing list
>>>>>                                 PSF-Board at python.org
>>>>>                                 <mailto:PSF-Board at python.org>
>>>>>                                 http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>>>
>>>>                                 -- 
>>>>                                 Steve Holden
>>>>                                 steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>                                 <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                             _______________________________________________
>>>>                             PSF-Board-Public mailing list
>>>>                             PSF-Board-Public at python.org
>>>>                             <mailto:PSF-Board-Public at python.org>
>>>>                             http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board-public
>>>
>>>                             -- 
>>>                             Steve Holden
>>>                             steve at holdenweb.com
>>>                             <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>                         -- 
>>                         Steve Holden
>>                         steve at holdenweb.com <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                     -- 
>>                     Pat Campbell
>>                     PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>                     patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>             -- 
>>             Pat Campbell
>>             PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>             patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Pat Campbell
>>     PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>     patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     pydotorg-www mailing list
>>     pydotorg-www at python.org <mailto:pydotorg-www at python.org>
>>     http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www


From patcam at python.org  Wed Sep 21 21:17:56 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:17:56 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] [PSF-Board] Python logo
	sticker donation
In-Reply-To: <4E7A3217.6010705@wingware.com>
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Thanks Stephan for posting the pyAr information online.





On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Stephan Deibel <sdeibel at wingware.com>wrote:

> I added the pyArkansas listing this morning.  If you were emailing about
> something else please let me know



> (I didn't see any question in the forwarded emails).
>

Here is the question in the email from BJ Killian:

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:20 AM, BJ Killian <bjkillian1997 at gmail.com<mailto:
bjkillian1997 at gmail.com>> wrote:

   How do i add that?

Thanks again,
Pat


>
> - Stephan
>
>
>
> On 9/21/11 2:17 PM, Pat Campbell wrote:
>
>> Hi BJ:
>>
>> I am not a tech, therefore I do not want to mislead you with an incorrect
>> answer to your
>> very important question. :)
>>
>> I am cc'ing the pydotorg team again with this same request. They usually
>> take
>> care of my request to add items to the various Python website pages.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pat
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:20 AM, BJ Killian <bjkillian1997 at gmail.com<mailto:
>> bjkillian1997 at gmail.**com <bjkillian1997 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>    How do i add that?
>>    On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Pat Campbell wrote:
>>
>>     Hi pydotorg:
>>>
>>>    Could you please add the upcoming "4th annual pyArkansas
>>>    conference" to the python.org <http://python.org/> index page here:
>>>
>>>
>>>    http://python.org/
>>>
>>>    Also, the pyArkansas conference website link is here:
>>>
>>>    http://www.pyarkansas.org <http://www.pyarkansas.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>>    If you have any questions, please let me know.
>>>
>>>    Thanks,
>>>    Pat
>>>
>>>    On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST)
>>>    <chad at cast.uark.edu <mailto:chad at cast.uark.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>        Got em yesterday, thanks! Here's the site for our conference,
>>>        could we get this event added to calendar list on the
>>>        python.org <http://python.org/> index page? I see pyGotham is
>>>        listed there.
>>>
>>>        http://www.pyarkansas.org <http://www.pyarkansas.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>>        Thanks again.
>>>
>>>        chad
>>>
>>>
>>>        On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Pat Campbell
>>>        <patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>            Hi Chad:
>>>
>>>            Thank-you. Your PSF stickers will go out in tomorrow's mail.
>>>
>>>            Pat
>>>
>>>
>>>            On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Chad Cooper (CAST)
>>>            <chad at cast.uark.edu <mailto:chad at cast.uark.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                Pat, address in sig below. Thanks again!
>>>
>>>
>>>                chad
>>>
>>>                ------------------------------**--------------
>>>                Chad Cooper
>>>                Geospatial R&D Specialist
>>>                Center for Advanced Spatial Technologies
>>>                1 University of Arkansas
>>>                JBHT 304
>>>                Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
>>>                479.575.5730 <tel:479.575.5730> (o)
>>>                479.387.0515 <tel:479.387.0515> (c)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Pat Campbell
>>>                <patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                    Steve:
>>>
>>>                    I can send Chad 100 PSF stickers. Do we have a
>>>                    mailing address?
>>>
>>>                    Thanks,
>>>                    Pat
>>>
>>>
>>>                    On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Steve Holden
>>>                    <steve at holdenweb.com
>>>                    <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                        Pat:
>>>
>>>                        Do we need to order more stickers or do you
>>>                        have 100 you can send Chad right away, please?
>>>
>>>                        regards
>>>                         Steve
>>>
>>>                        On Sep 12, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Chad Cooper
>>>                        (CAST) wrote:
>>>
>>>                         OK, thanks Steve. Good to know that the
>>>>                        events are appreciated. We are expecting
>>>>                        around 100 people, could PSF provide that
>>>>                        number of stickers to us?
>>>>
>>>>                        Thanks
>>>>
>>>>                        chad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                        On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Steve Holden
>>>>                        <steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>                        <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                            I think we plan to keep that kind of
>>>>                            quantity on hand at all times for needs
>>>>                            like yours. There really is no need to
>>>>                            contribute in cash: this is meeting our
>>>>                            goal of encouraging the growth of the
>>>>                            Python community.
>>>>
>>>>                            If you'd like to make a donation that's
>>>>                            fine, but the contribution of time and
>>>>                            effort you make to put these classes
>>>>                            together far outweighs any financial
>>>>                            consideration. Thank you most sincerely.
>>>>
>>>>                            regards
>>>>                             Steve
>>>>
>>>>                            On Sep 6, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Chad Cooper
>>>>                            (CAST) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                             Steve and Pat,
>>>>>
>>>>>                            Thanks again for the stickers, my
>>>>>                            workshop students loved them and I also
>>>>>                            gave them out some extras at our booth
>>>>>                            at the conference. I am now working on
>>>>>                            our 4th annual pyArkansas
>>>>>                            (http://pyarkansas.wordpress.**com/<http://pyarkansas.wordpress.com/>)
>>>>> that
>>>>>                            will once again be held in Conway,
>>>>>                            Arkansas on October 22. I would really
>>>>>                            like some more of the stickers to give
>>>>>                            out at our conference. How about this:
>>>>>                            How much does printing up the Python 3
>>>>>                            stickers that you sent me cost? If it's
>>>>>                            not too expense, I'd be willing,
>>>>>                            through my business, to cover the cost
>>>>>                            of a hundred or so for our conference
>>>>>                            and then some more to give back to the
>>>>>                            PSF. Could you get me a cost on the
>>>>>                            stickers?
>>>>>
>>>>>                            Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>                            chad
>>>>>
>>>>>                            On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Steve
>>>>>                            Holden <steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>>                            <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                                [redirected to public list]
>>>>>
>>>>>                                Pat:
>>>>>
>>>>>                                How are stocks? Do we have a short
>>>>>                                of some kind we can send Chad
>>>>>                                (PyCon, maybe, or Holden Web, even?)
>>>>>
>>>>>                                Chad:
>>>>>
>>>>>                                Please coordinate off-list with
>>>>>                                Pat. Good luck with your teaching
>>>>>                                work, and thanks for taking the
>>>>>                                time to promote Python!
>>>>>
>>>>>                                regards
>>>>>                                 Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>                                On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Chad
>>>>>                                Cooper (CAST) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 Hello. I will be teaching a Python
>>>>>>                                for GIS course
>>>>>>                                <http://www.argisusers.org/**
>>>>>> resources/**SyposiumWorkshops2011.pdf<http://www.argisusers.org/resources/SyposiumWorkshops2011.pdf>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                at the upcoming Arkansas GIS Users
>>>>>>                                Forum Biennial Symposium
>>>>>>                                <http://www.argisusers.org/**
>>>>>> symposium2011.php <http://www.argisusers.org/symposium2011.php>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                at the end of August. I would
>>>>>>                                really like some Python logo
>>>>>>                                stickers to give out to my
>>>>>>                                students and was wondering if the
>>>>>>                                PSF would be able to donate some.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                Thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                chad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                ------------------------------**
>>>>>> --------------
>>>>>>                                Chad Cooper
>>>>>>                                Geospatial R&D Specialist
>>>>>>                                Center for Advanced Spatial
>>>>>>                                Technologies
>>>>>>                                1 University of Arkansas
>>>>>>                                JBHT 304
>>>>>>                                Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
>>>>>>                                479.575.5730 <tel:479.575.5730> (o)
>>>>>>                                479.387.0515 <tel:479.387.0515> (c)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                ______________________________**
>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>                                PSF-Board mailing list
>>>>>>                                PSF-Board at python.org
>>>>>>                                <mailto:PSF-Board at python.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                http://mail.python.org/**
>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/psf-board<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                                --                                 Steve
>>>>> Holden
>>>>>                                steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>>                                <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                            ______________________________**
>>>>> _________________
>>>>>                            PSF-Board-Public mailing list
>>>>>                            PSF-Board-Public at python.org
>>>>>                            <mailto:PSF-Board-Public@**python.org<PSF-Board-Public at python.org>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>                            http://mail.python.org/**
>>>>> mailman/listinfo/psf-board-**public<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board-public>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                            --                             Steve Holden
>>>>                            steve at holdenweb.com
>>>>                            <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>                        --                         Steve Holden
>>>                        steve at holdenweb.com <mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                    --                     Pat Campbell
>>>                    PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>>                    patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>            --             Pat Campbell
>>>            PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>>            patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    --     Pat Campbell
>>>    PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>>    patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>
>>>    ______________________________**_________________
>>>    pydotorg-www mailing list
>>>    pydotorg-www at python.org <mailto:pydotorg-www at python.**org<pydotorg-www at python.org>
>>> >
>>>
>>>    http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pat Campbell
>> PSF Administrator/Secretary
>> patcam at python.org <mailto:patcam at python.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www>
>>
>
>


-- 
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From patcam at python.org  Thu Sep 22 01:24:43 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:24:43 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- August 2011 -
	Please Post Online
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dLgb0VjycpdRtF_-y6Ru7DagOq82Rpk6xf-x1i0d0BT3w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Pydotorg:

Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
locations:
please see the attachments for the approved board meeting minutes for
  August 2011.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,
Pat



-- 
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PSF Administrator/Secretary
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From patcam at python.org  Thu Sep 22 01:52:34 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:52:34 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- August
	2011 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dLgb0VjycpdRtF_-y6Ru7DagOq82Rpk6xf-x1i0d0BT3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLgb0VjycpdRtF_-y6Ru7DagOq82Rpk6xf-x1i0d0BT3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dJoWqJtFuh9aD8FhFRCRnERr+UadmbXPjhvR5PmNbT81w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Pydotorg:

Please disregard the previous email attachment sent to you
regarding the August 2011 board minutes online posting. We've
located and corrected a typo in the August 2011 board meeting
minutes.

Please feel free to post the updated version in this attachment.

Thanks,
Pat

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:

> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachments for the approved board meeting minutes for
>   August 2011.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
>
>
> --
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From techtonik at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 09:29:34 2011
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:29:34 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- August
 2011 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dJoWqJtFuh9aD8FhFRCRnERr+UadmbXPjhvR5PmNbT81w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLgb0VjycpdRtF_-y6Ru7DagOq82Rpk6xf-x1i0d0BT3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFy_4dJoWqJtFuh9aD8FhFRCRnERr+UadmbXPjhvR5PmNbT81w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xJuGB8UDwMgzxWxZO14QsEZf12dPx_eSeb3aKjLjY0Z=w@mail.gmail.com>

Are you serious that were will be no GSoC 2011 summary report? That's sad.

Pleace CC that stuff about new PyCon website software. It will be
useful even here.

Thanks.
--
anatoly t.



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg:
>
> Please disregard the previous email attachment sent to you
> regarding the August 2011 board minutes online posting. We've
> located and corrected a typo in the August 2011 board meeting
> minutes.
>
> Please feel free to post the updated version in this attachment.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Pydotorg:
>>
>> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
>> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/? at the usual web
>> locations:
>> please see the attachments for the approved board meeting minutes for
>> ? August 2011.
>>
>> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pat Campbell
>> PSF Administrator/Secretary
>> patcam at python.org
>
>
>
> --
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>
>

From doug.hellmann at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 14:17:23 2011
From: doug.hellmann at gmail.com (Doug Hellmann)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:17:23 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- August
	2011 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dJoWqJtFuh9aD8FhFRCRnERr+UadmbXPjhvR5PmNbT81w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLgb0VjycpdRtF_-y6Ru7DagOq82Rpk6xf-x1i0d0BT3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFy_4dJoWqJtFuh9aD8FhFRCRnERr+UadmbXPjhvR5PmNbT81w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <84E19AAA-6E5F-4DC0-BB7B-B6A550F8D180@gmail.com>

Done.

On Sep 21, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Pat Campbell wrote:

> Hi Pydotorg:
> 
> Please disregard the previous email attachment sent to you
> regarding the August 2011 board minutes online posting. We've 
> located and corrected a typo in the August 2011 board meeting
> minutes.
> 
> Please feel free to post the updated version in this attachment.
> 
> Thanks,
> Pat
> 
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg: 
>  
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online, 
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web locations:
> please see the attachments for the approved board meeting minutes for 
>   August 2011.
>  
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>  
> Thanks,
> Pat
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org
> <Brd Min-August 15 -'11-approved.txt>_______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www

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From patcam at python.org  Thu Sep 22 20:26:45 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:26:45 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- August
 2011 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <84E19AAA-6E5F-4DC0-BB7B-B6A550F8D180@gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLgb0VjycpdRtF_-y6Ru7DagOq82Rpk6xf-x1i0d0BT3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFy_4dJoWqJtFuh9aD8FhFRCRnERr+UadmbXPjhvR5PmNbT81w@mail.gmail.com>
	<84E19AAA-6E5F-4DC0-BB7B-B6A550F8D180@gmail.com>
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Thanks for posting the minutes online Doug.
Pat

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Doug Hellmann <doug.hellmann at gmail.com>wrote:

> Done.
>
> On Sep 21, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Pat Campbell wrote:
>
> Hi Pydotorg:
>
> Please disregard the previous email attachment sent to you
> regarding the August 2011 board minutes online posting. We've
> located and corrected a typo in the August 2011 board meeting
> minutes.
>
> Please feel free to post the updated version in this attachment.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello Pydotorg:
>>
>> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
>> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
>> locations:
>> please see the attachments for the approved board meeting minutes for
>>   August 2011.
>>
>> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pat Campbell
>> PSF Administrator/Secretary
>> patcam at python.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org
> <Brd Min-August 15 -'11-approved.txt>
> _______________________________________________
>
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>
>
>


-- 
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PSF Administrator/Secretary
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From patcam at python.org  Thu Sep 22 20:32:39 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:32:39 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- August
 2011 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xJuGB8UDwMgzxWxZO14QsEZf12dPx_eSeb3aKjLjY0Z=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLgb0VjycpdRtF_-y6Ru7DagOq82Rpk6xf-x1i0d0BT3w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFy_4dJoWqJtFuh9aD8FhFRCRnERr+UadmbXPjhvR5PmNbT81w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFy_4d+bctxYig=O6DyPY86pa2dHWrRtSxqO+p6pce2V-xYLHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Anatoly:

It maybe a good idea to go to the source regarding the GSoC 2011
summary report and the PyCon website software.

Arc Riley may be able to answer your inquiry concerning a GSoC
2011 summary report and Jesse Noller may be a good source to
help answer your question about the PyCon website software.

I am cc'ing both Arc & Jesse on this email. I hope you find what
you are looking for.

Thanks,
Pat

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:29 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com>wrote:

> Are you serious that were will be no GSoC 2011 summary report? That's sad.
>
> Pleace CC that stuff about new PyCon website software. It will be
> useful even here.
>
> Thanks.
> --
> anatoly t.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> > Hi Pydotorg:
> >
> > Please disregard the previous email attachment sent to you
> > regarding the August 2011 board minutes online posting. We've
> > located and corrected a typo in the August 2011 board meeting
> > minutes.
> >
> > Please feel free to post the updated version in this attachment.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pat
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Pydotorg:
> >>
> >> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> >> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> >> locations:
> >> please see the attachments for the approved board meeting minutes for
> >>   August 2011.
> >>
> >> If you have any questions, please let me know.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Pat
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Pat Campbell
> >> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> >> patcam at python.org
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pat Campbell
> > PSF Administrator/Secretary
> > patcam at python.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > pydotorg-www mailing list
> > pydotorg-www at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
> >
> >
>



-- 
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From patcam at python.org  Thu Sep 22 22:11:20 2011
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- August
 2011 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAHhipD9zLQQUJWY__X=zpEDmXNoXiABWQNTeOsjDtks2adD6Sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLgb0VjycpdRtF_-y6Ru7DagOq82Rpk6xf-x1i0d0BT3w@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Arc:

The next board meeting will be held in October on the 17th. Please feel free
to send your report to the "PSF Board" <psf at python.org> at least one week
before the scheduled board meeting.

Thanks,
Pat

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Arc Riley <arcriley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry I dropped the ball on the summary report.  When is the board meeting
> so I can get it together by then?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Anatoly:
>>
>> It maybe a good idea to go to the source regarding the GSoC 2011
>> summary report and the PyCon website software.
>>
>> Arc Riley may be able to answer your inquiry concerning a GSoC
>> 2011 summary report and Jesse Noller may be a good source to
>> help answer your question about the PyCon website software.
>>
>> I am cc'ing both Arc & Jesse on this email. I hope you find what
>> you are looking for.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pat
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:29 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Are you serious that were will be no GSoC 2011 summary report? That's
>>> sad.
>>>
>>> Pleace CC that stuff about new PyCon website software. It will be
>>> useful even here.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> --
>>> anatoly t.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
>>> > Hi Pydotorg:
>>> >
>>> > Please disregard the previous email attachment sent to you
>>> > regarding the August 2011 board minutes online posting. We've
>>> > located and corrected a typo in the August 2011 board meeting
>>> > minutes.
>>> >
>>> > Please feel free to post the updated version in this attachment.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Pat
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello Pydotorg:
>>> >>
>>> >> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes"
>>> online,
>>> >> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
>>> >> locations:
>>> >> please see the attachments for the approved board meeting minutes for
>>> >>   August 2011.
>>> >>
>>> >> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Pat
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Pat Campbell
>>> >> PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>> >> patcam at python.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Pat Campbell
>>> > PSF Administrator/Secretary
>>> > patcam at python.org
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > pydotorg-www mailing list
>>> > pydotorg-www at python.org
>>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pat Campbell
>> PSF Administrator/Secretary
>> patcam at python.org
>>
>
>


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From sbrichards at mit.edu  Tue Sep 27 05:04:58 2011
From: sbrichards at mit.edu (Steve Richards)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:04:58 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Volunteering
Message-ID: <CAJe7BQPk-D5Zv7nK8B6x-GTtxzjuVSsxfMZ7MX_sh+oGyR7fJg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I'm an intermediately skilled python programmer and would like to help in
maintaining the python.org site, I'm also a maintainer of gnu.org and have
experience with git, svn, cvs, and bzr revision control systems.
Best Regards,

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From doug.hellmann at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 21:45:24 2011
From: doug.hellmann at gmail.com (Doug Hellmann)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:45:24 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] outage report
Message-ID: <F549B61F-00F0-4587-B06E-361CCF786E67@gmail.com>

I've had an outage report for python.org via twitter. It's working for me, but the reporter says "traceroute drops at te5-4.swcolo2.3d12.xs4all.net" and they aren't able to connect to the site.

Is anyone else seeing an issue?

Doug


From p at python.org  Tue Sep 27 21:52:01 2011
From: p at python.org (Patrick Ben Koetter)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:52:01 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] outage report
In-Reply-To: <F549B61F-00F0-4587-B06E-361CCF786E67@gmail.com>
References: <F549B61F-00F0-4587-B06E-361CCF786E67@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110927195200.GM11195@state-of-mind.de>

* Doug Hellmann <doug.hellmann at gmail.com>:
> I've had an outage report for python.org via twitter. It's working for me,
> but the reporter says "traceroute drops at te5-4.swcolo2.3d12.xs4all.net"
> and they aren't able to connect to the site.

Works for me from Germany

p at x220:~$ tracepath python.org
 1:  x220.local                                            0.242ms pmtu 1500
 1:  192.168.192.1                                         3.633ms 
 1:  192.168.192.1                                         1.315ms 
 2:  no reply
 3:  83-169-135-254.static.superkabel.de                  12.133ms 
 4:  83-169-183-237-isp.superkabel.de                     10.585ms asymm  3 
 5:  83-169-128-189.static.superkabel.de                  22.428ms 
 6:  83-169-128-141.static.superkabel.de                  27.882ms asymm  7 
 7:  ams-ix.tc2.xs4all.net                                34.704ms asymm  8 
 8:  0.so-2-0-0.xr4.1d12.xs4all.net                       46.140ms asymm 10 
 9:  no reply
10:  dinsdale.python.org                                  36.087ms reached
     Resume: pmtu 1500 hops 10 back 54 


> 
> Is anyone else seeing an issue?
> 
> Doug
> 
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www

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From mal at egenix.com  Tue Sep 27 21:53:01 2011
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:53:01 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] outage report
In-Reply-To: <F549B61F-00F0-4587-B06E-361CCF786E67@gmail.com>
References: <F549B61F-00F0-4587-B06E-361CCF786E67@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E82299D.1050404@egenix.com>

Doug Hellmann wrote:
> I've had an outage report for python.org via twitter. It's working for me, but the reporter says "traceroute drops at te5-4.swcolo2.3d12.xs4all.net" and they aren't able to connect to the site.
> 
> Is anyone else seeing an issue?

No.

In such cases, I'd suggest to use a tool like Looking Glass to check the
availability from many different parts of the world:

http://www.traceroute.org/

e.g.
http://lg.telia.net/
http://lg.as6453.net/lg/
http://www.as3257.net/lg/

Here's a trace from Honk Kong:

traceroute to python.org (82.94.164.162), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  sjo-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.247.192)  175.920 ms las-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.130.36)
154.836 ms  154.896 ms
 2  ash-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.248.189)  236.307 ms ash-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.9)
235.799 ms ash-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.130.210)  223.354 ms
 3  ldn-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.251.206)  312.106 ms ldn-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.246.69)
319.439 ms ldn-bb2-link.telia.net (213.248.65.209)  291.870 ms
 4  ldn-b5-link.telia.net (80.91.246.145)  301.725 ms ldn-b5-link.telia.net (80.91.250.168)  305.796
ms ldn-b5-link.telia.net (80.91.246.145)  301.602 ms
 5  ldn-s10-rou-1041.UK.eurorings.net (134.222.249.77)  301.984 ms  336.106 ms  311.725 ms
 6  ldn-s1-rou-1021.UK.eurorings.net (134.222.231.245) [AS  286]  312.548 ms  309.749 ms  312.467 ms
     MPLS Label=303744 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1
 7  asd2-rou-1022.NL.eurorings.net (134.222.229.217) [AS  286]  299.655 ms  306.688 ms  319.113 ms
     MPLS Label=307184 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1
 8  asd2-rou-1042.NL.eurorings.net (134.222.230.33) [AS  286]  317.329 ms  310.280 ms  317.292 ms
 9  134.222.97.18 (134.222.97.18) [AS  286]  321.213 ms  307.361 ms  322.297 ms
10  0.ae2.xr4.1d12.xs4all.net (194.109.5.82) [AS  3265]  309.896 ms  299.809 ms  319.265 ms
11  te5-4.swcolo2.3d12.xs4all.net (194.109.12.34) [AS  3265]  307.147 ms  306.947 ms  309.826 ms
12  dinsdale.python.org (82.94.164.162) [AS  3265]  325.616 ms  316.737 ms  310.736 ms


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From cmclaughlin at atlassian.com  Tue Sep 27 22:59:41 2011
From: cmclaughlin at atlassian.com (Charles McLaughlin)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:59:41 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] outage report
In-Reply-To: <4E82299D.1050404@egenix.com>
References: <F549B61F-00F0-4587-B06E-361CCF786E67@gmail.com>
	<4E82299D.1050404@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <CAERD-VbCTbGJ8CtKH64bBnYOh_J4bwXr8xbej0bLdsr8WCnL+A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:53 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

> Doug Hellmann wrote:
> > I've had an outage report for python.org via twitter. It's working for
> me, but the reporter says "traceroute drops at
> te5-4.swcolo2.3d12.xs4all.net" and they aren't able to connect to the
> site.
> >
> > Is anyone else seeing an issue?
>
> No.
>
> In such cases, I'd suggest to use a tool like Looking Glass to check the
> availability from many different parts of the world:
>
> http://www.traceroute.org/
>
>
Also http://pingdom.com/ offers basic monitoring from all over the world and
it's free for one site.

Charles
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From p at python.org  Wed Sep 28 07:13:30 2011
From: p at python.org (Patrick Ben Koetter)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 07:13:30 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] outage report
In-Reply-To: <CAERD-VbCTbGJ8CtKH64bBnYOh_J4bwXr8xbej0bLdsr8WCnL+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F549B61F-00F0-4587-B06E-361CCF786E67@gmail.com>
	<4E82299D.1050404@egenix.com>
	<CAERD-VbCTbGJ8CtKH64bBnYOh_J4bwXr8xbej0bLdsr8WCnL+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110928051330.GC2335@state-of-mind.de>

* Charles McLaughlin <cmclaughlin at atlassian.com>:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:53 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> 
> > Doug Hellmann wrote:
> > > I've had an outage report for python.org via twitter. It's working for
> > me, but the reporter says "traceroute drops at
> > te5-4.swcolo2.3d12.xs4all.net" and they aren't able to connect to the
> > site.
> > >
> > > Is anyone else seeing an issue?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > In such cases, I'd suggest to use a tool like Looking Glass to check the
> > availability from many different parts of the world:
> >
> > http://www.traceroute.org/
> >
> >
> Also http://pingdom.com/ offers basic monitoring from all over the world and
> it's free for one site.

I am not sure if I mentioned it before, but Ralf and I happen to work together
with Michael Schwartzkopff, who is an expert in network and network
monitoring. Michael offered to hook all pydotorg machines up to a
Nagios/Zabbix/openNMS monitoring system. That would give us not only the
chance to monitor web services.

It's been a year since Michael and I talked about this, and I would have to
reconfirm he's still with us, but as I know him its more a formal thing to ask
him if he still sticks to that offer.

p at rick

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From doug.hellmann at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 16:26:58 2011
From: doug.hellmann at gmail.com (Doug Hellmann)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:26:58 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] outage report
In-Reply-To: <20110928051330.GC2335@state-of-mind.de>
References: <F549B61F-00F0-4587-B06E-361CCF786E67@gmail.com>
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On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote:

> * Charles McLaughlin <cmclaughlin at atlassian.com>:
>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:53 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Doug Hellmann wrote:
>>>> I've had an outage report for python.org via twitter. It's working for
>>> me, but the reporter says "traceroute drops at
>>> te5-4.swcolo2.3d12.xs4all.net" and they aren't able to connect to the
>>> site.
>>>> 
>>>> Is anyone else seeing an issue?
>>> 
>>> No.
>>> 
>>> In such cases, I'd suggest to use a tool like Looking Glass to check the
>>> availability from many different parts of the world:
>>> 
>>> http://www.traceroute.org/
>>> 
>>> 
>> Also http://pingdom.com/ offers basic monitoring from all over the world and
>> it's free for one site.
> 
> I am not sure if I mentioned it before, but Ralf and I happen to work together
> with Michael Schwartzkopff, who is an expert in network and network
> monitoring. Michael offered to hook all pydotorg machines up to a
> Nagios/Zabbix/openNMS monitoring system. That would give us not only the
> chance to monitor web services.
> 
> It's been a year since Michael and I talked about this, and I would have to
> reconfirm he's still with us, but as I know him its more a formal thing to ask
> him if he still sticks to that offer.

Monitoring is part of the plan for improving our infrastructure setup. I've copied Noah, who is in charge of that project, so he is aware of the offer.

Thanks,
Doug