[pydotorg-www] Fw: [Archiver-policy] Impact of SOPA?

Mon Jan 16 15:26:50 CET 2012

* Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org>:
> I really almost hesitate to send this, not because I'm not entirely
> sympathetic to the cause, but because political discussions are always
> problematic and perhaps more so because of the PSF's non-profit status.
> Still, SOPA and the like are evil pieces of legislation that will have
> seriously dire consequences to Python and python.org.  Notwithstanding the
> recent backtracking on these bills, I wonder if we should blackout as well for
> solidarity (and self-interest).
> 
> I'm deliberately sending it here first, although the board would likely have
> to decide too.  The question is, if we wanted to participate, would it be
> technically feasible given our volunteer resources?

postmaster hat on:
        Yes, we can blackout mail for that time

SOPA:
Personally I don't think we need to start a discussion on it. We can just vote
and do what the vote returns.

p at rick

> 
> -Barry
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:21:45 -0800
> From: Jeff Marshall <marshman at gmail.com>
> To: Hank Leininger <hlein at marc.info>
> Cc: "archiver-policy at python.org" <archiver-policy at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Archiver-policy] Impact of SOPA?
> 
> 
> Hi Hank, great to hear from you. 
> 
> We've been discussing it this weekend and we are leaning strongly towards doing a full blackout for the day on the 18th.  We plan on deciding tonight. 
> 
> We haven't gotten any legal opinions on the proposed legislation, but our IANAL interpretation is pretty dire like yours. 
> 
> It would be great if several of us participated in the blackout together resulting in more awareness across the spectrum. 
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Hank Leininger <hlein at marc.info> wrote:
> 
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> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > MARC admin here.
> > 
> > What are your thoughts on the impact of SOPA on public mailing list
> > archives hosted in the United States?
> > 
> > IANAL, and I can't keep up with the various modifications to SOPA and
> > Protect-IP that keep coming, but my impression is that it would be a
> > death sentence: we would be obligated to review all messages for
> > copyrighted content prior to posting, make us liable for any
> > violations, and of course, get our sites taken down/blocked based on
> > unsupported claims (i.e. no due process; guilty until proven
> > innocent).
> > 
> > I'd expect to have to shut MARC down, or move it out of the US (and no
> > longer touch it myself, any more).  So, I am thinking of participating
> > in the SOPA Blackout Day on Wednesday.
> > 
> > I'm curious what the Jeffs think, if you've gotten any legal opinions
> > on the matter, considered participating in the blackout, etc.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Hank
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> <html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi Hank, great to hear from you.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>We've been discussing it this weekend and we are leaning strongly towards doing a full blackout for the day on the 18th. &nbsp;We plan on deciding tonight.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>We haven't gotten any legal opinions on the proposed legislation, but our IANAL interpretation is pretty dire like yours.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>It would be great if several of us participated in the blackout together resulting in more awareness across the spectrum.&nbsp;<br><br>Jeff<br><br></div><div><br>On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Hank Leininger &lt;<a href="mailto:hlein at marc.info">hlein at marc.info</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA256<br><br>Hi folks,<br><br>MARC admin here.<br><br>What are your thoughts on the impact of SOPA on public mailing list<br>archives hosted in the United States?<br><br>IANAL, and I can't keep up with the various modifications to SOPA and<br>Protect-IP that keep coming, but my impression is that it would be a<br>death sentence: we would be obligated to review all messages for<br>copyrighted content prior to posting, make us liable for any<br>violations, and of course, get our sites taken down/blocked based on<br>unsupported claims (i.e. no due process; guilty until proven<br>innocent).<br><br>I'd expect to have to shut MARC down, or move it out of the US (and no<br>longer touch it myself, any more). &nbsp;So, I am thinking of participating<br>in the SOPA Blackout Day on Wednesday.<br><br>I'm curious what the Jeffs think, if you've gotten any legal opinions<br>on the matter, considered participating in the blackout, etc.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Hank<br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br><br>iQEVAwUBTxN0wEeo0UvhPpxqAQiy7gf/bKap95vBkW9HcMQCC/xFEYHWJaWszXC5<br>lIOfPW0lC1fbxa6BkRvMEYloiseYS3yCzgPxUqCkDQvn6R5mHOGAHRvIQWBMlj/d<br>bbCjidpnboRtQ+c0xGD5iib7hXvsMyL2dRQem7c6/WbHq2uvbTngsuA+Wzhwq7nW<br>LJxUB8Ucgp05x/UCsSPgUj+DmGrA4bmisVuBB9xypB6b1NQZ/BsKm6nMumzRiPTe<br>NCXSZGxsSpng+WIyvSSgXfckxZxSfEOF9G3BL9Q4hthTUEMwhAPsH/UKRcOcvCh6<br>wWSKGBLco8ufMYjMrb+8ntIv/E7aTryMbOqbg+XyRM77Rdi/8z/Lqg==<br>=6Mtz<br>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>_______________________________________________<br>Archiver-policy mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Archiver-policy at python.org">Archiver-policy at python.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/archiver-policy">http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/archiver-policy</a></font></div></blockquote></body></html>

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