From michael at voidspace.org.uk  Thu Mar  1 16:43:07 2012
From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:43:07 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Copyright notice on site footer
In-Reply-To: <CA+NZatLYoFOeGV5ZXkKAJrhJrvsdt_ov6dcM9T1p6F4_maiRrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+NZatLYoFOeGV5ZXkKAJrhJrvsdt_ov6dcM9T1p6F4_maiRrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F4F990B.4040201@voidspace.org.uk>



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Subject: 	Copyright notice on site footer
Date: 	Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:15:11 -0300
From: 	Ricardo B?nffy <rbanffy at gmail.com>
To: 	webmaster at python.org



Hi.

I just noticed it says "Copyright ? 1990-2011, Python Software 
Foundation". Can it be updated?

-- 
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http://www.dieblinkenlights.com
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Thu Mar  1 17:32:21 2012
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 08:32:21 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] FWD: Copyright notice on site footer
Message-ID: <20120301163221.GA3295@panix.com>

It appears that the website needs a full manual build to trigger the
copyright fix (if you check the svn logs, I fixed the source two months
ago).

----- Forwarded message from Ricardo B?nffy <rbanffy at gmail.com> -----

> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:15:11 -0300
> From: Ricardo B?nffy <rbanffy at gmail.com>
> To: webmaster at python.org
> Subject: Copyright notice on site footer
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I just noticed it says "Copyright ? 1990-2011, Python Software Foundation".
> Can it be updated?
> 
> -- 
> Ricardo B?nffy
> http://www.dieblinkenlights.com
> http://twitter.com/rbanffy

----- End forwarded message -----

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Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote 
programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.

From brian at python.org  Fri Mar  2 00:00:42 2012
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:00:42 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- January
 2012 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dJ6SjR+QyYFgw+yka-hxJxV_4hMbtBABUkCwLAjR76xTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJ6SjR+QyYFgw+yka-hxJxV_4hMbtBABUkCwLAjR76xTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwoeiEQBMCtsS_rh7NMJWvPrJxJiBKA5yaLo1CgNEyDeCQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 15:42, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/? at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> January 2012.

Posted: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2012-01-16/

From patcam at python.org  Fri Mar  2 00:05:51 2012
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:05:51 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- January
 2012 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwoeiEQBMCtsS_rh7NMJWvPrJxJiBKA5yaLo1CgNEyDeCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dJ6SjR+QyYFgw+yka-hxJxV_4hMbtBABUkCwLAjR76xTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwoeiEQBMCtsS_rh7NMJWvPrJxJiBKA5yaLo1CgNEyDeCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dJnKKCShMt65sh=hwpgVeZG43hzR0bLhDC7mryPXspEyA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Brian:

Thanks a whole bunch...

Pat

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Brian Curtin <brian at python.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 15:42, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> > Hello Pydotorg:
> >
> > Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> > http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> > locations:
> > please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> > January 2012.
>
> Posted: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2012-01-16/
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From michael at voidspace.org.uk  Sun Mar  4 19:14:17 2012
From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 18:14:17 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] pydotorg-www Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <113qBXPNN1872S03.1330096453@web03.cms.usa.net>
References: <113qBXPNN1872S03.1330096453@web03.cms.usa.net>
Message-ID: <03CC0235-9EBD-48AD-A723-D54B4DCB8B8B@voidspace.org.uk>

Hello David,

I've added this, it should show up shortly.

All the best,

Michael Foord

On 24 Feb 2012, at 15:14, David Jensen wrote:

> Please update the current listing of PyGotham on the first page of python.org.
> 
> 
> It currently says:
> 
> PyGotham
> 
> PyGotham will be held September 16-17, 2011.
> Published: Tue, 6 September 2011, 08:00 +0200
> 
> Please change the date to June 8-9, 2012.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> David Jensen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: 06:04 AM EST, 02/24/2012
> From: pydotorg-www-request at python.org
> To: pydotorg-www at python.org
> Subject: pydotorg-www Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7
> 
>> Send pydotorg-www mailing list submissions to
>> 	pydotorg-www at python.org
>> 
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> 	http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> 	pydotorg-www-request at python.org
>> 
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> 	pydotorg-www-owner at python.org
>> 
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of pydotorg-www digest..."
>> 
>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>   1. PyGotham II (David Jensen)
>>   2. Donated infrastructure listing (Martin v. L?wis)
>>   3. Re: PyGotham II (Aahz)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:57:21 -0500
>> From: "David Jensen" <davidjensen at usa.net>
>> To: <pydotorg-www at python.org>
>> Subject: [pydotorg-www] PyGotham II
>> Message-ID: <156qBwP5V3200S04.1330012641 at web04.cms.usa.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> 
>> Please put PyGotham II as taking place June 8-9. We expect 400 attendees.
>> 
>> 
>> David Jensen
>> Apartment 412
>> 414 West 120th Street
>> New York, New York 10027
>> 212-866-7094 
>> preferred:: cell: 646-282-6355
>> davidjensen at usa.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:00:45 +0100
>> From: "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de>
>> To: pydotorg-www <pydotorg-www at python.org>, 	Public PSF Board List
>> 	<psf-board-public at python.org>
>> Subject: [pydotorg-www] Donated infrastructure listing
>> Message-ID: <4F46B70D.4090501 at v.loewis.de>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
>> 
>> I started creating a listing of donated infrastructure, at
>> 
>> http://www.python.org/psf/infrastructure/
>> 
>> If I forgot something, please let me know (name, logo, and what
>> service/component was donated), or just go ahead and add it yourself.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Martin
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:34:09 -0800
>> From: Aahz <aahz at pythoncraft.com>
>> To: pydotorg-www at python.org
>> Subject: Re: [pydotorg-www] PyGotham II
>> Message-ID: <20120224013409.GA6171 at panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012, David Jensen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Please put PyGotham II as taking place June 8-9. We expect 400 attendees.
>> 
>> If you're requesting the addition of a news item, you need to provide
>> more information.  Take a look at the examples currently up.
>> -- 
>> Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>        
> http://www.pythoncraft.com/
>> 
>> Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote
> 
>> programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy
> civilization.
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>> 
>> 
>> End of pydotorg-www Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7
>> *******************************************
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> pydotorg-www at python.org
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> 


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May you do good and not evil
May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
-- the sqlite blessing 
http://www.sqlite.org/different.html






From patcam at python.org  Mon Mar  5 19:39:33 2012
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:39:33 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] 2nd Request: Re: Board Resolutions from October
 through December 2011 Board Meetings - Please Post Online
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dLJZdR7hY1LXAFTamwrEfjVpo0awQBAjpS0pmceBNBVKA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Pydotorg Team:

Could you please post the board meeting resolution listed below. Please see
the email below.

Thanks,
Pat

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:

> Hi Pydotorg:
>
> Board Resolutions from October through December 2011 Board Meetings
>
>
>
> Hi pydotorg team:
>
>
>
> Could you please add the following board resolution from the
>
> October through December 2011  board meetings to this web page:
>
>
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/
>
>
>
> Please see the list of board resolutions to be added below:
>
>
>
>
>
> ***RESOLVED***, that Mike M?ller and Armin Rigo be given Python
>
> Community Service Awards for 2011-4th Quarter.
>
> Approved, 8-0-0 by IRC vote, 19 December 2011.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pat
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From brian at python.org  Mon Mar  5 20:57:39 2012
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:57:39 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] 2nd Request: Re: Board Resolutions from October
 through December 2011 Board Meetings - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dLJZdR7hY1LXAFTamwrEfjVpo0awQBAjpS0pmceBNBVKA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLJZdR7hY1LXAFTamwrEfjVpo0awQBAjpS0pmceBNBVKA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwrLBJ2XvW=WFm=S=pL5H5F36Z3Cfabsu=KrsQLDW585tw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:39, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg Team:
>
> Could you please post the board meeting resolution listed below. Please see
> the email below.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pydotorg:
>>
>> Board Resolutions from October through December 2011 Board Meetings
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi pydotorg team:
>>
>>
>>
>> Could you please add the following board resolution from the
>>
>> October through December 2011 ?board meetings to this web page:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/
>>
>>
>>
>> Please see the list of board resolutions to be added below:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> **RESOLVED**, that Mike M?ller and Armin Rigo be given Python
>>
>> Community Service Awards for 2011-4th Quarter.
>>
>> Approved, 8-0-0 by IRC vote, 19 December 2011.

Sorry for the delay - this is now completed:
http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/

From patcam at python.org  Mon Mar  5 22:02:26 2012
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 16:02:26 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] 2nd Request: Re: Board Resolutions from October
 through December 2011 Board Meetings - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwrLBJ2XvW=WFm=S=pL5H5F36Z3Cfabsu=KrsQLDW585tw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4dLJZdR7hY1LXAFTamwrEfjVpo0awQBAjpS0pmceBNBVKA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwrLBJ2XvW=WFm=S=pL5H5F36Z3Cfabsu=KrsQLDW585tw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dJMLFE1E35o_EtHnqCQLZKQuokvx08Q9RFH6fbKtKesJw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks a whole lot Brian.

Pat

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Brian Curtin <brian at python.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:39, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> > Hi Pydotorg Team:
> >
> > Could you please post the board meeting resolution listed below. Please
> see
> > the email below.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pat
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Pydotorg:
> >>
> >> Board Resolutions from October through December 2011 Board Meetings
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi pydotorg team:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Could you please add the following board resolution from the
> >>
> >> October through December 2011  board meetings to this web page:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please see the list of board resolutions to be added below:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> **RESOLVED**, that Mike M?ller and Armin Rigo be given Python
> >>
> >> Community Service Awards for 2011-4th Quarter.
> >>
> >> Approved, 8-0-0 by IRC vote, 19 December 2011.
>
> Sorry for the delay - this is now completed:
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From paul at mcmillan.ws  Tue Mar  6 12:04:06 2012
From: paul at mcmillan.ws (Paul McMillan)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 03:04:06 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Access to the Python.org site to update the security
	page
Message-ID: <CAO_YWRW_TTWCUwibrwe5VnHuKhG7kX523bZNdMD=JMiKsRq9Pg@mail.gmail.com>

I'd like to request access to modify the python.org website,
specifically to improve the state of the unmaintained
http://www.python.org/news/security/ page. This was discussed on the
PSRT mailing list, and Barry Warsaw suggested that I contact this
address to make that happen.

Thanks,
-Paul

From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Tue Mar  6 16:19:46 2012
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:19:46 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Access to the Python.org site to update the
 security page
In-Reply-To: <CAO_YWRW_TTWCUwibrwe5VnHuKhG7kX523bZNdMD=JMiKsRq9Pg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO_YWRW_TTWCUwibrwe5VnHuKhG7kX523bZNdMD=JMiKsRq9Pg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120306151946.GA14473@panix.com>

On Tue, Mar 06, 2012, Paul McMillan wrote:
>
> I'd like to request access to modify the python.org website,
> specifically to improve the state of the unmaintained
> http://www.python.org/news/security/ page. This was discussed on the
> PSRT mailing list, and Barry Warsaw suggested that I contact this
> address to make that happen.

Please send your SSH key as an attachment to pydotorg at python.org (not
this list).  You should definitely subscribe to pydotorg-www, and I
recommend that you subscribe to pydotorg.  (pydotorg is essentially the
same as pydotorg-www, but the archives are private and the list
membership is somewhat restricted, just to keep certain things like SSH
keys out of the public eye.)
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote 
programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.

From steve at holdenweb.net  Tue Mar 13 00:21:38 2012
From: steve at holdenweb.net (Steve Holden)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:21:38 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] New Honorary Associate Membership
Message-ID: <785157EC-77E4-4607-A44A-D994D7314E49@holdenweb.net>

Kurt Kaiser and I have just updated the psfmember.org site, and I am delighted to say that it is now ready for users to start registering! This could be more money for the PSF, but there are few links to the site at the moment.

Kurt is about to send the button he is suggesting you use to put the site prominently on the python.org home page in much the same way that the linuxfoundation.org does.

  https://lunixfoundation.org/about/join/individual

You can pretty much decide on the design yourselves, though a professional designer would be helpful.

regards
 Steve

From kbk at shore.net  Tue Mar 13 00:43:00 2012
From: kbk at shore.net (Kurt B. Kaiser)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:43:00 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] New Honorary Associate Membership
In-Reply-To: <785157EC-77E4-4607-A44A-D994D7314E49@holdenweb.net>
References: <785157EC-77E4-4607-A44A-D994D7314E49@holdenweb.net>
Message-ID: <1331595780.18058.140661048327069@webmail.messagingengine.com>



On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, at 04:21 PM, Steve Holden wrote:
> Kurt Kaiser and I have just updated the psfmember.org site, and I am
> delighted to say that it is now ready for users to start registering!
> This could be more money for the PSF, but there are few links to the
> site at the moment.
>
> Kurt is about to send the button

see attached

> he is suggesting you use to put the site prominently on the python.org
> home page in much the same way that the linuxfoundation.org does.
>
>   https://lunixfoundation.org/about/join/individual

and 

https://linuxfoundation.org/

>
> You can pretty much decide on the design yourselves, though a
> professional designer would be helpful.

Thanks, KBK
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Tue Mar 13 04:16:30 2012
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:16:30 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] New Honorary Associate Membership
In-Reply-To: <785157EC-77E4-4607-A44A-D994D7314E49@holdenweb.net>
References: <785157EC-77E4-4607-A44A-D994D7314E49@holdenweb.net>
Message-ID: <20120313031630.GA25140@panix.com>

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, Steve Holden wrote:
>
> Kurt Kaiser and I have just updated the psfmember.org site, and
> I am delighted to say that it is now ready for users to start
> registering! This could be more money for the PSF, but there are few
> links to the site at the moment.

No, it is not ready.  There is zero information on the home page, and I
still think that requiring an address to register is broken (aside from
the fact from my POV any system requiring both first and last name is
broken).
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote 
programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.

From noah at coderanger.net  Thu Mar 15 00:47:23 2012
From: noah at coderanger.net (Noah Kantrowitz)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:47:23 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] League of Awesome page is updated
Message-ID: <A46A0219-851F-4182-85C3-FA06EDE89BA6@coderanger.net>

http://www.python.org/psf/league/ has been updated with our latest sponsors.

--Noah


From noah at coderanger.net  Thu Mar 15 00:53:14 2012
From: noah at coderanger.net (Noah Kantrowitz)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:53:14 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF server monitoring
Message-ID: <505B86E1-CCCE-478D-A5DE-BE11AD1BDD23@coderanger.net>

I am happy to report that we now have real monitoring for the main PSF services. These currently include www.python.org, PyPI, and the mail server. For the moment I am the only one in the pager rotation, but once I am confident that I haven't misconfigured anything I would like to extend a big thanks to Richard Jones, Jannis Leidel, and Eric Holscher, who have all agreed to join me in being on-call should anything break. If anyone else is interested in joining the rotation, please just send me an email (notably please include your timezone, trying to keep it so no one has to be on-call at night) and I will be happy to add you to the list. I would also like to thank PagerDuty and Pingdom again, for providing us these awesome services.

--Noah Kantrowitz

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From kbk at shore.net  Thu Mar 15 07:55:46 2012
From: kbk at shore.net (Kurt B. Kaiser)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 02:55:46 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] New Honorary Associate Membership
In-Reply-To: <20120313031630.GA25140@panix.com>
References: <785157EC-77E4-4607-A44A-D994D7314E49@holdenweb.net><20120313031630.GA25140@panix.com>
Message-ID: <1331794546.25995.140661049439969@webmail.messagingengine.com>



On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, at 08:16 PM, Aahz wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, Steve Holden wrote:
> >
> > Kurt Kaiser and I have just updated the psfmember.org site, and
> > I am delighted to say that it is now ready for users to start
> > registering! This could be more money for the PSF, but there are few
> > links to the site at the moment.
> 
> No, it is not ready.  There is zero information on the home page, and I
> still think that requiring an address to register is broken (aside from
> the fact from my POV any system requiring both first and last name is
> broken).

I see what you are saying.  We were intending to add some informative
text to the page on python.org which accesses the non-logged-in page on
psfmember.org.  But absent that, if you go directly to psfmember.org,
it's indeed barren.

I copied Steve's text from the logged-in page, less the button that
initiates the signup process.

Once the prospect logs in, it will see the same text, but with the
button.

Regarding collecting information, the personal data was only visible to
the user and the administrator, though that's not obvious.

There is really no pressing reason to collect Associate Member
information (beyond email address), since the financial information is
collected by the payment processor.

I've reconfigured the system to only require first name and country, and
modified the payment processing to key off the psfmember.org email
instead of the paypal email.  That way, the donation honor roll will
only contain the data supplied during registration at psfmember.org.  If
it only supplies a first name, then that's what appears.  Assuming it
could make a financial transaction, of course.

If the Associate Members want to add additional information to their
profile, they can.  You might try registering and check out the profile,
it's pretty compete and allows the user quite a bit of control.

-- 
KBK

From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Thu Mar 15 14:26:07 2012
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 06:26:07 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] New Honorary Associate Membership
In-Reply-To: <1331794546.25995.140661049439969@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <785157EC-77E4-4607-A44A-D994D7314E49@holdenweb.net>
	<20120313031630.GA25140@panix.com>
	<1331794546.25995.140661049439969@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <20120315132607.GA2177@panix.com>

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, at 08:16 PM, Aahz wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, Steve Holden wrote:
>>>
>>> Kurt Kaiser and I have just updated the psfmember.org site, and
>>> I am delighted to say that it is now ready for users to start
>>> registering! This could be more money for the PSF, but there are few
>>> links to the site at the moment.
>> 
>> No, it is not ready.  There is zero information on the home page, and I
>> still think that requiring an address to register is broken (aside from
>> the fact from my POV any system requiring both first and last name is
>> broken).
> 
> I see what you are saying.  We were intending to add some informative
> text to the page on python.org which accesses the non-logged-in page on
> psfmember.org.  But absent that, if you go directly to psfmember.org,
> it's indeed barren.
> 
> I copied Steve's text from the logged-in page, less the button that
> initiates the signup process.

Much better!  Suggested changes:

* "becoming a member" -> "becoming an associate member"

* PSF -> "Python Software Foundation (PSF)" and link back to 
http://www.python.org/psf/

* Python should link to http://www.python.org/

* "woud love" -> "would love"

IOW, I think psfmember.org needs to be an URL people can hand out
directly without confusing people.

> Once the prospect logs in, it will see the same text, but with the
> button.

Now that I've logged in, I don't see any button.  No cookies were
attempted to be set during login, either.  Is this some problem with
Lynx?

Side note: the site seems to be very slow.

> Regarding collecting information, the personal data was only visible to
> the user and the administrator, though that's not obvious.

IMO, it's still a problem to hide public site information from people not
logged in.  We want as much as possible to be visible.

The other issue with requiring information is that it slows down the
process of creating a login.
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote 
programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.

From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Thu Mar 15 14:41:09 2012
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 06:41:09 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] New Honorary Associate Membership
In-Reply-To: <20120315132607.GA2177@panix.com>
References: <785157EC-77E4-4607-A44A-D994D7314E49@holdenweb.net>
	<20120313031630.GA25140@panix.com>
	<1331794546.25995.140661049439969@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<20120315132607.GA2177@panix.com>
Message-ID: <20120315134109.GA8183@panix.com>

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012, Aahz wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote:
>> 
>> Once the prospect logs in, it will see the same text, but with the
>> button.
> 
> Now that I've logged in, I don't see any button.  No cookies were
> attempted to be set during login, either.  Is this some problem with
> Lynx?

Okay, now that I finished the previous message, I see the signup e-mail.
The site should tell the user to look for the e-mail.  Logging in using
the link gets HTTP 403.

Still can't log in, even straight.

Okay, now I tried with Firefox, there's definitely some JavaScript
requirement that needs to be fixed.  In the FF context, it's annoying
that you have to click on the login link to see the login fields.

SECURITY WARNING: I noticed after logging in through FF that my contact
information is there (meaning information previously given to the PSF but
*not* provided to psfmember.org).  This is NOT appropriate, especially
given that login is done through plain HTTP instead of HTTPS/SSL.
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote 
programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.

From mal at egenix.com  Thu Mar 15 19:43:17 2012
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:43:17 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] League of Awesome page is
	updated
In-Reply-To: <A46A0219-851F-4182-85C3-FA06EDE89BA6@coderanger.net>
References: <A46A0219-851F-4182-85C3-FA06EDE89BA6@coderanger.net>
Message-ID: <4F623845.7070800@egenix.com>

Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
> http://www.python.org/psf/league/ has been updated with our latest sponsors.

Hi Noah,

thanks for the update. I was a bit surprised that the PSF now
sports a new page linking firms who have donated hardware or
services without the board being involved.

While I don't think that anyone from the board would object to
having such a page, I do think that the board has to approve such
important changes to the PSF website. Looking at the website
repository, Martin added the original infrastructure page
on 2012-02-23. Perhaps Martin could shed some light on this ?!

I also noticed that we now have two directories mentioning the
infrastructure sponsors:

http://www.python.org/psf/infrastructure/
http://www.python.org/psf/league/

and that the "League" entry in the left hand menu only shows up in
the PSF top-level

http://www.python.org/psf/

and not in the lower level entries, e.g.

http://www.python.org/psf/about/

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From jnoller at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 19:44:54 2012
From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:44:54 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] League of Awesome page is
	updated
In-Reply-To: <4F623845.7070800@egenix.com>
References: <A46A0219-851F-4182-85C3-FA06EDE89BA6@coderanger.net>
	<4F623845.7070800@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <CACQrdOm7ZUKEM8J-0cijRP50b-eLo5kvqgGvdZh7K+VyhXL0EA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
>> http://www.python.org/psf/league/ has been updated with our latest sponsors.
>
> Hi Noah,
>
> thanks for the update. I was a bit surprised that the PSF now
> sports a new page linking firms who have donated hardware or
> services without the board being involved.
>
> While I don't think that anyone from the board would object to
> having such a page, I do think that the board has to approve such
> important changes to the PSF website. Looking at the website
> repository, Martin added the original infrastructure page
> on 2012-02-23. Perhaps Martin could shed some light on this ?!
>
> I also noticed that we now have two directories mentioning the
> infrastructure sponsors:
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/infrastructure/
> http://www.python.org/psf/league/
>
> and that the "League" entry in the left hand menu only shows up in
> the PSF top-level
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/
>
> and not in the lower level entries, e.g.
>
> http://www.python.org/psf/about/

Steve Holden and I both gave Noah the nod for this. So blame us.

From mal at egenix.com  Thu Mar 15 19:50:32 2012
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:50:32 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] League of Awesome page is
	updated
In-Reply-To: <CACQrdOm7ZUKEM8J-0cijRP50b-eLo5kvqgGvdZh7K+VyhXL0EA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A46A0219-851F-4182-85C3-FA06EDE89BA6@coderanger.net>
	<4F623845.7070800@egenix.com>
	<CACQrdOm7ZUKEM8J-0cijRP50b-eLo5kvqgGvdZh7K+VyhXL0EA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F6239F8.1070106@egenix.com>

Jesse Noller wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>> Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
>>> http://www.python.org/psf/league/ has been updated with our latest sponsors.
>>
>> Hi Noah,
>>
>> thanks for the update. I was a bit surprised that the PSF now
>> sports a new page linking firms who have donated hardware or
>> services without the board being involved.
>>
>> While I don't think that anyone from the board would object to
>> having such a page, I do think that the board has to approve such
>> important changes to the PSF website. Looking at the website
>> repository, Martin added the original infrastructure page
>> on 2012-02-23. Perhaps Martin could shed some light on this ?!
>>
>> I also noticed that we now have two directories mentioning the
>> infrastructure sponsors:
>>
>> http://www.python.org/psf/infrastructure/
>> http://www.python.org/psf/league/
>>
>> and that the "League" entry in the left hand menu only shows up in
>> the PSF top-level
>>
>> http://www.python.org/psf/
>>
>> and not in the lower level entries, e.g.
>>
>> http://www.python.org/psf/about/
> 
> Steve Holden and I both gave Noah the nod for this. So blame us.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm not blaming anyone, just want
to make it clear that some changes require board approval, since
they affect how the PSF values (or is perceived to value)
contributions and donations.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

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From noah at coderanger.net  Thu Mar 15 19:53:17 2012
From: noah at coderanger.net (Noah Kantrowitz)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:53:17 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] League of Awesome page is
	updated
In-Reply-To: <4F623845.7070800@egenix.com>
References: <A46A0219-851F-4182-85C3-FA06EDE89BA6@coderanger.net>
	<4F623845.7070800@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <20CD392B-B8C5-4738-90F4-EE5432636B45@coderanger.net>


On Mar 15, 2012, at 11:43 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:

> Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
>> http://www.python.org/psf/league/ has been updated with our latest sponsors.
> 
> Hi Noah,
> 
> thanks for the update. I was a bit surprised that the PSF now
> sports a new page linking firms who have donated hardware or
> services without the board being involved.
> 

The board was involved, both Jesse and Steve were made aware that I was adding new logos to the site and approved of the more whimsical name. Having such a page is standard procedure when signing up new sponsors, and I spent much of PyCon going out in search of more partners to improve infrastructure stuffs.

> While I don't think that anyone from the board would object to
> having such a page, I do think that the board has to approve such
> important changes to the PSF website. Looking at the website
> repository, Martin added the original infrastructure page
> on 2012-02-23. Perhaps Martin could shed some light on this ?!
> 
> I also noticed that we now have two directories mentioning the
> infrastructure sponsors:
> 
> http://www.python.org/psf/infrastructure/

Just an older version. I moved the source page, but the automated builder doesn't remove stuff automatically.

> http://www.python.org/psf/league/
> 
> and that the "League" entry in the left hand menu only shows up in
> the PSF top-level
> 
> http://www.python.org/psf/
> 
> and not in the lower level entries, e.g.
> 
> http://www.python.org/psf/about/

Also just a side-effect of the builder hooks not running a full rebuild. I tried deciphering the build system last night, but couldn't see the Right Way to do a rebuild safely. As individual pages are updated, it should be made visible. If someone wants to run a full site rebuild I would be grateful.

--Noah
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Thu Mar 15 20:24:42 2012
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:24:42 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] League of Awesome page is
	updated
In-Reply-To: <20CD392B-B8C5-4738-90F4-EE5432636B45@coderanger.net>
References: <A46A0219-851F-4182-85C3-FA06EDE89BA6@coderanger.net>
	<4F623845.7070800@egenix.com>
	<20CD392B-B8C5-4738-90F4-EE5432636B45@coderanger.net>
Message-ID: <20120315192442.GA26590@panix.com>

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012, Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
>
> Also just a side-effect of the builder hooks not running a full
> rebuild. I tried deciphering the build system last night, but couldn't
> see the Right Way to do a rebuild safely. As individual pages are
> updated, it should be made visible. If someone wants to run a full
> site rebuild I would be grateful.

Another benefit of a full rebuild should be fixing the copyright notice.
-- 
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Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote 
programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.

From mal at egenix.com  Thu Mar 15 21:33:12 2012
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:33:12 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board-Public] League of Awesome page is
	updated
In-Reply-To: <20CD392B-B8C5-4738-90F4-EE5432636B45@coderanger.net>
References: <A46A0219-851F-4182-85C3-FA06EDE89BA6@coderanger.net>
	<4F623845.7070800@egenix.com>
	<20CD392B-B8C5-4738-90F4-EE5432636B45@coderanger.net>
Message-ID: <4F625208.3000707@egenix.com>

Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
> 
> On Mar 15, 2012, at 11:43 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> 
>> Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
>>> http://www.python.org/psf/league/ has been updated with our latest sponsors.
>>
>> Hi Noah,
>>
>> thanks for the update. I was a bit surprised that the PSF now
>> sports a new page linking firms who have donated hardware or
>> services without the board being involved.
>>
> 
> The board was involved, both Jesse and Steve were made aware that I was adding new logos to the site and approved of the more whimsical name. Having such a page is standard procedure when signing up new sponsors, and I spent much of PyCon going out in search of more partners to improve infrastructure stuffs.

Thanks for the note; Jesse already explained.

Sorry, if this came across as criticism of how you handled this
(much to the contrary).

>> While I don't think that anyone from the board would object to
>> having such a page, I do think that the board has to approve such
>> important changes to the PSF website. Looking at the website
>> repository, Martin added the original infrastructure page
>> on 2012-02-23. Perhaps Martin could shed some light on this ?!
>>
>> I also noticed that we now have two directories mentioning the
>> infrastructure sponsors:
>>
>> http://www.python.org/psf/infrastructure/
> 
> Just an older version. I moved the source page, but the automated builder doesn't remove stuff automatically.

Ok, but I think you also need to update some links pointing to that
old URL, e.g. http://www.python.org/psf/

>> http://www.python.org/psf/league/
>>
>> and that the "League" entry in the left hand menu only shows up in
>> the PSF top-level
>>
>> http://www.python.org/psf/
>>
>> and not in the lower level entries, e.g.
>>
>> http://www.python.org/psf/about/
> 
> Also just a side-effect of the builder hooks not running a full rebuild. I tried deciphering the build system last night, but couldn't see the Right Way to do a rebuild safely. As individual pages are updated, it should be made visible. If someone wants to run a full site rebuild I would be grateful.

-- 
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From noah at coderanger.net  Wed Mar 21 22:31:03 2012
From: noah at coderanger.net (Noah Kantrowitz)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:31:03 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] New IRC channel: #python-infra
Message-ID: <899EE4BD-6671-43C2-B0C0-528DE1FE60A7@coderanger.net>

I've setup an IRC channel on Freenode, #python-infra, for ongoing operations chatter and notifications. If you are interested, please join us!

--Noah

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From barry at python.org  Wed Mar 21 22:35:37 2012
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:35:37 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] New IRC channel: #python-infra
In-Reply-To: <899EE4BD-6671-43C2-B0C0-528DE1FE60A7@coderanger.net>
References: <899EE4BD-6671-43C2-B0C0-528DE1FE60A7@coderanger.net>
Message-ID: <20120321173537.3c633dd7@resist.wooz.org>

On Mar 21, 2012, at 02:31 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote:

>I've setup an IRC channel on Freenode, #python-infra, for ongoing operations
>chatter and notifications. If you are interested, please join us!

I'm on too many channels as it is so I'm not going to join.  Ping me on
#python-dev though if something comes up and I can hop over.

-Barry

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From michael at voidspace.org.uk  Sun Mar 25 16:29:05 2012
From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 15:29:05 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Broken link on site
References: <CAGunouy4g9FF0EzHfJSNsva=_fZ7EQhdQ49uTJ50H3zHEoNjbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <401C174E-F698-4616-9A71-1959694E9023@voidspace.org.uk>



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Steve Koch <stevekochscience at gmail.com>
> Subject: Broken link on site
> Date: 23 March 2012 18:18:39 GMT
> To: webmaster at python.org
> 
> Hello, on the page http://www.python.org/about/apps/ there is a link that no longer works: http://www.pasteur.fr/recherche/unites/sis/formation/python/ in the section "Scientific and Numeric."
> 
> Possibly can be replaced with this PDF? http://www.lirmm.fr/~vberry/COURS/IC/Systemes/BioData/PythonBioinfo.pdf
> I am new to python, so I don't know for sure.
> Thanks!
> --Steve


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From patcam at python.org  Mon Mar 26 21:45:08 2012
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:45:08 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- February 2012
	- Please Post Online
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dK_NwDcKYArH6U-o+EV5v38piseYg4PwkjoKJUj0s9wYA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Pydotorg:

Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
locations:
please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
February 2012.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,
Pat

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patcam at python.org
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From richard at python.org  Wed Mar 28 00:34:37 2012
From: richard at python.org (Richard Jones)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:34:37 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] New IRC channel: #python-infra
In-Reply-To: <899EE4BD-6671-43C2-B0C0-528DE1FE60A7@coderanger.net>
References: <899EE4BD-6671-43C2-B0C0-528DE1FE60A7@coderanger.net>
Message-ID: <CAHrZfZBPbrXD6F9poQcmyGO9f1bYLX+HTsH5B2fCb_6PBA9A7g@mail.gmail.com>

On 21 March 2012 14:31, Noah Kantrowitz <noah at coderanger.net> wrote:
> I've setup an IRC channel on Freenode, #python-infra, for ongoing operations chatter and notifications. If you are interested, please join us!

Just a note that I'm almost never on IRC. I'm just in the wrong
timezone for anyone else interesting to be on there :-)


    Richard

From patcam at python.org  Fri Mar 30 22:12:02 2012
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:12:02 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Frank Willison Award Recipient for 2011 - Georg
	Brandl
Message-ID: <CAFy_4d+1xXzaFYjJJsOtZ5JRuq6oXdgM7CzfA3+ezz0t4koMUg@mail.gmail.com>

To:  pydotorg:

Could you please add the bio information to the link below for the 2011
Frank Willison Award
recipient Georg Brandl:

http://www.python.org/community/awards/frank-willison/

"The 2011 Frank Willison Memorial Award for Services to the Python
Community has been awarded to Georg Brandl.

Georg has been a core contributor to CPython since
2005<http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/65c95ad672ae/>,
contributing bug fixes for compiler internals and modules such as
pdb<http://docs.python.org/library/pdb.html>.
His most widely known contributions are to Python's documentation, through
writing as well as by creating and maintaining the
Sphinx<http://sphinx.pocoo.org/>tool chain for converting
reStructuredText<http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html>input
files to more easily consumed formats such as HTML and PDF.

The video announcing Georg's
award<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I708QrOlM74>at OSCON
2011 is available on YouTube.
About Georg Georg is a PhD student of Physics. He works at the Munich
research reactor slash neutron source on magnetism, researching novel
materials for the computing of tomorrow. He uses Python to control
experiments consisting of dozens of individual devices, and for teaching
other scientists how to do so efficiently. When he is not working on
Python-related projects, Georg likes to cycle and to cook."

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks
Pat

-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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