[pydotorg-www] Fwd: Python.org front page news features (near-)duplicates
mal at egenix.com
Tue Oct 23 12:21:28 CEST 2012
On 23.10.2012 12:07, Michael Foord wrote:
> A suggestion on managing the feed of news items that appears on the front page of python.org.
The current system for posting news entries on python.org uses the newsindex.yml
file which basically lists calendar entries in ReST format. I suppose
we could simply add a flag to those entries to disable their display on the
frontpage and only have the items listed in the RSS feed (that's how we
do this at eGenix).
> All the best,
> Michael Foord
> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: Justin Blank <justin.blank at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Python.org front page news features (near-)duplicates
>> Date: 23 October 2012 01:17:35 BST
>> To: Michael Foord <michael at python.org>
>> As I said, the point is that updates displayed on a webpage should be
>> decoupled from the RSS feed. RSS is plumbing.
>> Here is one idea: a widget displays the n-most recent items in the RSS
>> feed by default (or it could be all entries more recent than a certain
>> date). However, a human can override that default, and either a) keep
>> certain items displaying for longer, or b) hide entries (like release
>> candidates) that have been superceded by more recent developments. .
>> Release candidates are important news when they happen. They cease
>> being news once the actual software is released. At that point, they
>> are history, and are of interest to a limited set of people.
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Michael Foord <michael at python.org> wrote:
>>> Hello Justin,
>>> The main use case for the RSS feed is to be consumed via feed readers, so most people will see items as they are posted rather than all at the same time. I don't see how else we could generate a useful feed of news items other than as they are posted though. Betas and release candidates of new versions of Python is important news after all.
>>> All the best,
>>> Michael Foord
>>> On 22 Oct 2012, at 20:10, Justin Blank <justin.blank at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On the python.org front page, there is an RSS feed of news. At
>>>> present, this displays the fact that Python 3.3 was released (good),
>>>> but it also dispays three additional 3.3 release candidates. Since
>>>> seven news items are displayed in my browser, that means almost half
>>>> of them are wasted. I am personally insane enough to be curious what
>>>> the schedule of release candidates was for already released software
>>>> (indeed, I have checked that information for several operating systems
>>>> and other pieces of software recently), but it's not what I expect to
>>>> see when I go to the python website, or what I'd expect most users
>>>> would like to see.
>>>> Of course, these are perfectly reasonable items to include in an RSS
>>>> feed, which one assumes will be consumed the first time it's seen, but
>>>> I think what that shows is that the front page news feed needs to be
>>>> decoupled from the RSS feed.
>>> May you do good and not evil
>>> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
>>> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
>>> -- the sqlite blessing
> May you do good and not evil
> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
> -- the sqlite blessing
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Oct 23 2012)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/
2012-09-27: Released eGenix PyRun 1.1.0 ... http://egenix.com/go35
2012-09-26: Released mxODBC.Connect 2.0.1 ... http://egenix.com/go34
2012-09-25: Released mxODBC 3.2.1 ... http://egenix.com/go33
2012-10-23: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ... today
eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
More information about the pydotorg-www