From dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com  Tue Apr  1 12:23:52 2014
From: dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com (dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 14:23:52 +0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python related conferences
Message-ID: <533A93B8.5010208@jetbrains.com>

Hi,

I'm Dmitry Filippov, the product marketing manager for PyCharm at JetBrains.
Currently I'm reviewing upcoming Python related conferences to visit 
with sponsorship and found that info on this page is almost useless:
https://www.python.org/community/workshops/

it links to
1. http://oreilly.com/conferences/oscon/ which was held in 2001 and no 
longer exist
2. http://pyarkansas.org/  - the last conference was in 2012 and no such 
conference nowadays.
3. PyCon Brazil should now point to http://2014.pythonbrasil.org.br/
4. RuPy - as far as I know the latest conference in 2013 was the last of 
RuPy.
5. UKUUG Spring Conference 2008  - too old.

other entries from the list are just partially duplicate the list from 
http://www.pycon.org/

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Product Marketing Manager
Jetbrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
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From mal at egenix.com  Tue Apr  1 16:29:58 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:29:58 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python related conferences
In-Reply-To: <533A93B8.5010208@jetbrains.com>
References: <533A93B8.5010208@jetbrains.com>
Message-ID: <533ACD66.60901@egenix.com>

On 01.04.2014 12:23, dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm Dmitry Filippov, the product marketing manager for PyCharm at JetBrains.
> Currently I'm reviewing upcoming Python related conferences to visit with sponsorship and found that
> info on this page is almost useless:
> https://www.python.org/community/workshops/
> 
> it links to
> 1. http://oreilly.com/conferences/oscon/ which was held in 2001 and no longer exist
> 2. http://pyarkansas.org/  - the last conference was in 2012 and no such conference nowadays.
> 3. PyCon Brazil should now point to http://2014.pythonbrasil.org.br/
> 4. RuPy - as far as I know the latest conference in 2013 was the last of RuPy.
> 5. UKUUG Spring Conference 2008  - too old.
> 
> other entries from the list are just partially duplicate the list from http://www.pycon.org/

Thanks. I've put this on the tracker:

https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/359

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________________________________________________________________________
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From davidjensen at usa.net  Wed Apr  2 18:33:33 2014
From: davidjensen at usa.net (David Jensen)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:33:33 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] pydotorg-www Digest, Vol 67, Issue 1
Message-ID: <084sDBqGh0080S01.1396456413@web01.cms.usa.net>

Pygotham III(NYC) will be held this year. Because we have had other Python
conferences within the last year. the attendance will probably be
significantly larger than Pygotham II (2012) which was 300.


David Jensen




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> Hi,
> 
> I'm Dmitry Filippov, the product marketing manager for PyCharm at
JetBrains.
> Currently I'm reviewing upcoming Python related conferences to visit 
> with sponsorship and found that info on this page is almost useless:
> https://www.python.org/community/workshops/
> 
> it links to
> 1. http://oreilly.com/conferences/oscon/ which was held in 2001 and no 
> longer exist
> 2. http://pyarkansas.org/  - the last conference was in 2012 and no such 
> conference nowadays.
> 3. PyCon Brazil should now point to http://2014.pythonbrasil.org.br/
> 4. RuPy - as far as I know the latest conference in 2013 was the last of 
> RuPy.
> 5. UKUUG Spring Conference 2008  - too old.
> 
> other entries from the list are just partially duplicate the list from 
> http://www.pycon.org/
> 
> -- 
> Dmitry Filippov
> Product Marketing Manager
> Jetbrains, Inc
> http://www.jetbrains.com
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> From: "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal at egenix.com>
> To: "dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com" <dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com>,
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> On 01.04.2014 12:23, dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm Dmitry Filippov, the product marketing manager for PyCharm at
JetBrains.
> > Currently I'm reviewing upcoming Python related conferences to visit with
sponsorship and found that
> > info on this page is almost useless:
> > https://www.python.org/community/workshops/
> > 
> > it links to
> > 1. http://oreilly.com/conferences/oscon/ which was held in 2001 and no
longer exist
> > 2. http://pyarkansas.org/  - the last conference was in 2012 and no such
conference nowadays.
> > 3. PyCon Brazil should now point to http://2014.pythonbrasil.org.br/
> > 4. RuPy - as far as I know the latest conference in 2013 was the last of
RuPy.
> > 5. UKUUG Spring Conference 2008  - too old.
> > 
> > other entries from the list are just partially duplicate the list from
http://www.pycon.org/
> 
> Thanks. I've put this on the tracker:
> 
> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/359
> 
> -- 
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> eGenix.com
> 
> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Apr 01 2014)
> >>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
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> >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2014-04-09: PyCon 2014, Montreal, Canada ...                8 days to go
> 2014-04-29: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ...                 28 days to go
> 
> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
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From jeremy at tuxmachine.com  Wed Apr  2 18:41:08 2014
From: jeremy at tuxmachine.com (Jeremy Baron)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 16:41:08 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python related conferences
In-Reply-To: <533A93B8.5010208@jetbrains.com>
References: <533A93B8.5010208@jetbrains.com>
Message-ID: <CAE-2OCaYaRVeA_2=HWuWvgGy_iCdD-f3FL=VT2_fyNN+UizfRA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:23 AM, dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com
<dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com> wrote:
> 1. http://oreilly.com/conferences/oscon/ which was held in 2001 and no
> longer exist

That was a shock to hear because I know several people that have given
talks there in the last couple years.

http://www.oscon.com/oscon2014

-Jeremy

From dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com  Thu Apr  3 11:53:11 2014
From: dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com (dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 13:53:11 +0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python related conferences
In-Reply-To: <CAE-2OCaYaRVeA_2=HWuWvgGy_iCdD-f3FL=VT2_fyNN+UizfRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <533A93B8.5010208@jetbrains.com>
 <CAE-2OCaYaRVeA_2=HWuWvgGy_iCdD-f3FL=VT2_fyNN+UizfRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <533D2F87.6020108@jetbrains.com>

Oh, sorry about that. That's all about the link pointing to the old one 
conference
http://oreilly.com/conferences/oscon/

Now I see there is the ongoing oscon conference.

-Dmitry

On 04/02/2014 08:41 PM, Jeremy Baron wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:23 AM, dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com
> <dmitry.filippov at jetbrains.com> wrote:
>> 1. http://oreilly.com/conferences/oscon/ which was held in 2001 and no
>> longer exist
> That was a shock to hear because I know several people that have given
> talks there in the last couple years.
>
> http://www.oscon.com/oscon2014
>
> -Jeremy

-- 
Dmitry Filippov
Product Marketing Manager
Jetbrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


From mike_h at cox.net  Sun Apr  6 17:36:38 2014
From: mike_h at cox.net (Mike Housky)
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 08:36:38 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Type checking example on "Using Assertions
	Effectively" page
Message-ID: <53417486.8010007@cox.net>

Hello,

Regarding: https://wiki.python.org/moin/UsingAssertionsEffectively

The example given for using assert to verify argument types uses the 
types module to do so, but the types module recommends using the factory 
functions in the post-2.2 world.  Should this example (and the "safe to 
import *" comment following) be rewritten?

Cheers,
H.


From amk at amk.ca  Thu Apr 10 03:31:30 2014
From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 21:31:30 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Pydotorg sprint at PyCon 2014
Message-ID: <20140410013130.GA19296@datlandrewk>

I've just added a pydotorg sprint to the schedule for PyCon 2014.
There's no set agenda or goals at this point: we could just work on
individual tickets from the issue tracker, or we could do larger tasks
or rearrangements if there are enough of us to discuss them.

If you're going to be at the sprints and want to work on the web site,
please let me know.

--amk

From techtonik at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 08:18:22 2014
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:18:22 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Pydotorg sprint at PyCon 2014
In-Reply-To: <20140410013130.GA19296@datlandrewk>
References: <20140410013130.GA19296@datlandrewk>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xLgrQ5W8h+4KB5DGtHU3qZ6V3__eoA3MmC6B=PW-7NqnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Which tracker are you speaking about?

The "consensus" was not to have any tracker for pydotorg.
http://psf.upfronthosting.co.za/roundup/meta/issue340
That's why this page was born.
https://code.google.com/p/pydotorg/


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:31 AM, A.M. Kuchling <amk at amk.ca> wrote:
> I've just added a pydotorg sprint to the schedule for PyCon 2014.
> There's no set agenda or goals at this point: we could just work on
> individual tickets from the issue tracker, or we could do larger tasks
> or rearrangements if there are enough of us to discuss them.
>
> If you're going to be at the sprints and want to work on the web site,
> please let me know.
>
> --amk
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From adam_burke_mail at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 12 17:40:11 2014
From: adam_burke_mail at yahoo.com (Adam Burke)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 08:40:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spiced ham edits on the Jython wiki
Message-ID: <1397317211.33723.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I just reverted some super-obvious stuff. Is there any particular contact or protocol preferred when this happens? The wiki itself just listed this mailing list, that I could see. Also could someone with the appropriate permissions delete these pages:

https://wiki.python.org/jython/Follow_This_Advice_To_Enhance_Your_Individual_Development

https://wiki.python.org/jython/Inside_Fast_Solutions_Of_hair_extensions

https://wiki.python.org/jython/A_Highlight_On_Techniques_In_Antivirus_Norton_coupon_code_2016

https://wiki.python.org/jython/Finding_Convenient_Advice_For_hair_extensions

https://wiki.python.org/jython/How-To_Cure_Hemorrhoids__Obat_Wasir_Ambeien_


Thanks
Adam
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From mal at egenix.com  Sat Apr 12 20:29:58 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 20:29:58 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spiced ham edits on the Jython wiki
In-Reply-To: <1397317211.33723.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1397317211.33723.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <53498626.8090406@egenix.com>

On 12.04.2014 17:40, Adam Burke wrote:
> I just reverted some super-obvious stuff. Is there any particular contact or protocol preferred when this happens? The wiki itself just listed this mailing list, that I could see. Also could someone with the appropriate permissions delete these pages:

This list is fine.

> https://wiki.python.org/jython/Follow_This_Advice_To_Enhance_Your_Individual_Development
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/jython/Inside_Fast_Solutions_Of_hair_extensions
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/jython/A_Highlight_On_Techniques_In_Antivirus_Norton_coupon_code_2016
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/jython/Finding_Convenient_Advice_For_hair_extensions
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/jython/How-To_Cure_Hemorrhoids__Obat_Wasir_Ambeien_

Thanks for reporting these pages. I've deleted them now.

-- 
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From mal at egenix.com  Tue Apr 15 15:24:13 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:24:13 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF Members Announce list
Message-ID: <534D32FD.3010104@egenix.com>

FYI: I've turned off the approval requirement for the psf-members-announce
list, so that people should immediately get an email when they sign
up as PSF member.

Thanks,
-- 
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eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source
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>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

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From mal at egenix.com  Tue Apr 15 15:43:34 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:43:34 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] PSF Members Announce list
In-Reply-To: <C276A024-3054-4517-BCE6-A0AC49E1E0E2@lynnroot.com>
References: <534D32FD.3010104@egenix.com>	<CAFRnB2WY6OLp_161225MPjhyOGGgctssxsOH8zfiycibvOckzA@mail.gmail.com>
 <C276A024-3054-4517-BCE6-A0AC49E1E0E2@lynnroot.com>
Message-ID: <534D3786.2060604@egenix.com>

Oh dear. Looks like the website sends the subscribe messages
to the wrong email address.

I'll switch approval back on for now to stop this.

Sorry.

On 15.04.2014 15:39, Lynn Root wrote:
> I definitely am
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I seem to be getting a bunch of emails to psf-members-announce, which just say "susbcribe" -- anyone else seeing this?
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>> FYI: I've turned off the approval requirement for the psf-members-announce
>>> list, so that people should immediately get an email when they sign
>>> up as PSF member.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>> eGenix.com
>>>
>>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>>>>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::
>>>
>>>
>>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>
>>
>>
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>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
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> 

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>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

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From mal at python.org  Tue Apr 15 15:59:28 2014
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:59:28 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF Members Announce list
In-Reply-To: <534D3786.2060604@egenix.com>
References: <534D32FD.3010104@egenix.com>	<CAFRnB2WY6OLp_161225MPjhyOGGgctssxsOH8zfiycibvOckzA@mail.gmail.com>	<C276A024-3054-4517-BCE6-A0AC49E1E0E2@lynnroot.com>
 <534D3786.2060604@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <534D3B40.2020605@python.org>

On 15.04.2014 15:43, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Oh dear. Looks like the website sends the subscribe messages
> to the wrong email address.
> 
> I'll switch approval back on for now to stop this.
> 
> Sorry.

The website software should use this email address instead:

psf-members-announce-request at python.org

You can get a list of available command by sending an email
with subject "help" to that address. Here's the definition
of the subscribe command:

    subscribe [password] [digest|nodigest] [address=<address>]
        Subscribe to this mailing list.  Your password must be given to
        unsubscribe or change your options, but if you omit the password, one
        will be generated for you.  You may be periodically reminded of your
        password.

        The next argument may be either: `nodigest' or `digest' (no quotes!).
        If you wish to subscribe an address other than the address you sent
        this request from, you may specify `address=<address>' (no brackets
        around the email address, and no quotes!)


> On 15.04.2014 15:39, Lynn Root wrote:
>> I definitely am
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I seem to be getting a bunch of emails to psf-members-announce, which just say "susbcribe" -- anyone else seeing this?
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>>> FYI: I've turned off the approval requirement for the psf-members-announce
>>>> list, so that people should immediately get an email when they sign
>>>> up as PSF member.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> --
>>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>> eGenix.com
>>>>
>>>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>>>>>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire)
>>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>>> GPG Key fingerprint: 125F 5C67 DFE9 4084
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation (PSF)
http://www.python.org/psf/

From alex.gaynor at gmail.com  Tue Apr 15 15:25:36 2014
From: alex.gaynor at gmail.com (Alex Gaynor)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:25:36 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] PSF Members Announce list
In-Reply-To: <534D32FD.3010104@egenix.com>
References: <534D32FD.3010104@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <CAFRnB2WY6OLp_161225MPjhyOGGgctssxsOH8zfiycibvOckzA@mail.gmail.com>

I seem to be getting a bunch of emails to psf-members-announce, which just
say "susbcribe" -- anyone else seeing this?

Alex


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

> FYI: I've turned off the approval requirement for the psf-members-announce
> list, so that people should immediately get an email when they sign
> up as PSF member.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> eGenix.com
>
> Professional Python Services directly from the Source
> >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
> >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
> >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::
>
>
>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
> _______________________________________________
> PSF-Board mailing list
> PSF-Board at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>



-- 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire)
"The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
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From lynn at lynnroot.com  Tue Apr 15 15:39:13 2014
From: lynn at lynnroot.com (Lynn Root)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:39:13 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] PSF Members Announce list
In-Reply-To: <CAFRnB2WY6OLp_161225MPjhyOGGgctssxsOH8zfiycibvOckzA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <534D32FD.3010104@egenix.com>
 <CAFRnB2WY6OLp_161225MPjhyOGGgctssxsOH8zfiycibvOckzA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C276A024-3054-4517-BCE6-A0AC49E1E0E2@lynnroot.com>

I definitely am

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I seem to be getting a bunch of emails to psf-members-announce, which just say "susbcribe" -- anyone else seeing this?
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>> FYI: I've turned off the approval requirement for the psf-members-announce
>> list, so that people should immediately get an email when they sign
>> up as PSF member.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>> eGenix.com
>> 
>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>> >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>> >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>> >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> 
>> ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::
>> 
>> 
>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>> _______________________________________________
>> PSF-Board mailing list
>> PSF-Board at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire)
> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
> GPG Key fingerprint: 125F 5C67 DFE9 4084
> _______________________________________________
> PSF-Board mailing list
> PSF-Board at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
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From mal at python.org  Tue Apr 15 16:47:25 2014
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:47:25 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF Members Announce list
In-Reply-To: <534D3B40.2020605@python.org>
References: <534D32FD.3010104@egenix.com>	<CAFRnB2WY6OLp_161225MPjhyOGGgctssxsOH8zfiycibvOckzA@mail.gmail.com>	<C276A024-3054-4517-BCE6-A0AC49E1E0E2@lynnroot.com>	<534D3786.2060604@egenix.com>
 <534D3B40.2020605@python.org>
Message-ID: <534D467D.1080307@python.org>

I fixed the URL in the repo, just don't know how long it takes
for such changes to go live.

On 15.04.2014 15:59, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 15.04.2014 15:43, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> Oh dear. Looks like the website sends the subscribe messages
>> to the wrong email address.
>>
>> I'll switch approval back on for now to stop this.
>>
>> Sorry.
> 
> The website software should use this email address instead:
> 
> psf-members-announce-request at python.org
> 
> You can get a list of available command by sending an email
> with subject "help" to that address. Here's the definition
> of the subscribe command:
> 
>     subscribe [password] [digest|nodigest] [address=<address>]
>         Subscribe to this mailing list.  Your password must be given to
>         unsubscribe or change your options, but if you omit the password, one
>         will be generated for you.  You may be periodically reminded of your
>         password.
> 
>         The next argument may be either: `nodigest' or `digest' (no quotes!).
>         If you wish to subscribe an address other than the address you sent
>         this request from, you may specify `address=<address>' (no brackets
>         around the email address, and no quotes!)
> 
> 
>> On 15.04.2014 15:39, Lynn Root wrote:
>>> I definitely am
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I seem to be getting a bunch of emails to psf-members-announce, which just say "susbcribe" -- anyone else seeing this?
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>>>> FYI: I've turned off the approval requirement for the psf-members-announce
>>>>> list, so that people should immediately get an email when they sign
>>>>> up as PSF member.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> --
>>>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>>> eGenix.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>>>>>>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>>>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>>>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>>>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire)
>>>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>>>> GPG Key fingerprint: 125F 5C67 DFE9 4084
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>>
>>
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation (PSF)
http://www.python.org/psf/

From alex.gaynor at gmail.com  Tue Apr 15 16:49:32 2014
From: alex.gaynor at gmail.com (Alex Gaynor)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:49:32 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF Members Announce list
In-Reply-To: <534D467D.1080307@python.org>
References: <534D32FD.3010104@egenix.com>
 <CAFRnB2WY6OLp_161225MPjhyOGGgctssxsOH8zfiycibvOckzA@mail.gmail.com>
 <C276A024-3054-4517-BCE6-A0AC49E1E0E2@lynnroot.com>
 <534D3786.2060604@egenix.com> <534D3B40.2020605@python.org>
 <534D467D.1080307@python.org>
Message-ID: <CAFRnB2VQpJJgAi5vptT=fWDSp7vS4a0U26fdE95oX8fpJA_p+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Chef runs every 30 minutes.

Alex


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:47 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:

> I fixed the URL in the repo, just don't know how long it takes
> for such changes to go live.
>
> On 15.04.2014 15:59, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > On 15.04.2014 15:43, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> >> Oh dear. Looks like the website sends the subscribe messages
> >> to the wrong email address.
> >>
> >> I'll switch approval back on for now to stop this.
> >>
> >> Sorry.
> >
> > The website software should use this email address instead:
> >
> > psf-members-announce-request at python.org
> >
> > You can get a list of available command by sending an email
> > with subject "help" to that address. Here's the definition
> > of the subscribe command:
> >
> >     subscribe [password] [digest|nodigest] [address=<address>]
> >         Subscribe to this mailing list.  Your password must be given to
> >         unsubscribe or change your options, but if you omit the
> password, one
> >         will be generated for you.  You may be periodically reminded of
> your
> >         password.
> >
> >         The next argument may be either: `nodigest' or `digest' (no
> quotes!).
> >         If you wish to subscribe an address other than the address you
> sent
> >         this request from, you may specify `address=<address>' (no
> brackets
> >         around the email address, and no quotes!)
> >
> >
> >> On 15.04.2014 15:39, Lynn Root wrote:
> >>> I definitely am
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I seem to be getting a bunch of emails to psf-members-announce, which
> just say "susbcribe" -- anyone else seeing this?
> >>>>
> >>>> Alex
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> FYI: I've turned off the approval requirement for the
> psf-members-announce
> >>>>> list, so that people should immediately get an email when they sign
> >>>>> up as PSF member.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> >>>>> eGenix.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source
> >>>>>>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...
> http://www.egenix.com/
> >>>>>>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...
> http://zope.egenix.com/
> >>>>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...
> http://python.egenix.com/
> >>>>>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free !
> ::::
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
> >>>>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
> >>>>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
> >>>>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
> >>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
> >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
> right to say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire)
> >>>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
> >>>> GPG Key fingerprint: 125F 5C67 DFE9 4084
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> PSF-Board mailing list
> >>>> PSF-Board at python.org
> >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> Director
> Python Software Foundation (PSF)
> http://www.python.org/psf/
>



-- 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire)
"The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
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From mal at python.org  Tue Apr 15 17:24:59 2014
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 17:24:59 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF Members Announce list
In-Reply-To: <CAFRnB2VQpJJgAi5vptT=fWDSp7vS4a0U26fdE95oX8fpJA_p+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <534D32FD.3010104@egenix.com>	<CAFRnB2WY6OLp_161225MPjhyOGGgctssxsOH8zfiycibvOckzA@mail.gmail.com>	<C276A024-3054-4517-BCE6-A0AC49E1E0E2@lynnroot.com>	<534D3786.2060604@egenix.com>
 <534D3B40.2020605@python.org>	<534D467D.1080307@python.org>
 <CAFRnB2VQpJJgAi5vptT=fWDSp7vS4a0U26fdE95oX8fpJA_p+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <534D4F4B.3060803@python.org>

On 15.04.2014 16:49, Alex Gaynor wrote:
> Chef runs every 30 minutes.

Great, so the problem should be fixed by now.

> Alex
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:47 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:
> 
>> I fixed the URL in the repo, just don't know how long it takes
>> for such changes to go live.
>>
>> On 15.04.2014 15:59, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> On 15.04.2014 15:43, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>> Oh dear. Looks like the website sends the subscribe messages
>>>> to the wrong email address.
>>>>
>>>> I'll switch approval back on for now to stop this.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry.
>>>
>>> The website software should use this email address instead:
>>>
>>> psf-members-announce-request at python.org
>>>
>>> You can get a list of available command by sending an email
>>> with subject "help" to that address. Here's the definition
>>> of the subscribe command:
>>>
>>>     subscribe [password] [digest|nodigest] [address=<address>]
>>>         Subscribe to this mailing list.  Your password must be given to
>>>         unsubscribe or change your options, but if you omit the
>> password, one
>>>         will be generated for you.  You may be periodically reminded of
>> your
>>>         password.
>>>
>>>         The next argument may be either: `nodigest' or `digest' (no
>> quotes!).
>>>         If you wish to subscribe an address other than the address you
>> sent
>>>         this request from, you may specify `address=<address>' (no
>> brackets
>>>         around the email address, and no quotes!)
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 15.04.2014 15:39, Lynn Root wrote:
>>>>> I definitely am
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I seem to be getting a bunch of emails to psf-members-announce, which
>> just say "susbcribe" -- anyone else seeing this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> FYI: I've turned off the approval requirement for the
>> psf-members-announce
>>>>>>> list, so that people should immediately get an email when they sign
>>>>>>> up as PSF member.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>>>>> eGenix.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>>>>>>>>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...
>> http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>>>>>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...
>> http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>>>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...
>> http://python.egenix.com/
>>>>>>>
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free !
>> ::::
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>>>>>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>>>>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>>>>>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>>>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
>> right to say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire)
>>>>>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>>>>>> GPG Key fingerprint: 125F 5C67 DFE9 4084
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>> Director
>> Python Software Foundation (PSF)
>> http://www.python.org/psf/
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation (PSF)
http://www.python.org/psf/

From alex.gaynor at gmail.com  Tue Apr 15 17:26:56 2014
From: alex.gaynor at gmail.com (Alex Gaynor)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:26:56 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF Members Announce list
In-Reply-To: <534D4F4B.3060803@python.org>
References: <534D32FD.3010104@egenix.com>
 <CAFRnB2WY6OLp_161225MPjhyOGGgctssxsOH8zfiycibvOckzA@mail.gmail.com>
 <C276A024-3054-4517-BCE6-A0AC49E1E0E2@lynnroot.com>
 <534D3786.2060604@egenix.com> <534D3B40.2020605@python.org>
 <534D467D.1080307@python.org>
 <CAFRnB2VQpJJgAi5vptT=fWDSp7vS4a0U26fdE95oX8fpJA_p+Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <534D4F4B.3060803@python.org>
Message-ID: <CAFRnB2XyowOHO7DxRqc0R9P68w93aTSaa2ueF4_ao-_Qj_Dn=A@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome, thanks!

Alex


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:24 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:

> On 15.04.2014 16:49, Alex Gaynor wrote:
> > Chef runs every 30 minutes.
>
> Great, so the problem should be fixed by now.
>
> > Alex
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:47 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I fixed the URL in the repo, just don't know how long it takes
> >> for such changes to go live.
> >>
> >> On 15.04.2014 15:59, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> >>> On 15.04.2014 15:43, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> >>>> Oh dear. Looks like the website sends the subscribe messages
> >>>> to the wrong email address.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll switch approval back on for now to stop this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry.
> >>>
> >>> The website software should use this email address instead:
> >>>
> >>> psf-members-announce-request at python.org
> >>>
> >>> You can get a list of available command by sending an email
> >>> with subject "help" to that address. Here's the definition
> >>> of the subscribe command:
> >>>
> >>>     subscribe [password] [digest|nodigest] [address=<address>]
> >>>         Subscribe to this mailing list.  Your password must be given to
> >>>         unsubscribe or change your options, but if you omit the
> >> password, one
> >>>         will be generated for you.  You may be periodically reminded of
> >> your
> >>>         password.
> >>>
> >>>         The next argument may be either: `nodigest' or `digest' (no
> >> quotes!).
> >>>         If you wish to subscribe an address other than the address you
> >> sent
> >>>         this request from, you may specify `address=<address>' (no
> >> brackets
> >>>         around the email address, and no quotes!)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 15.04.2014 15:39, Lynn Root wrote:
> >>>>> I definitely am
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I seem to be getting a bunch of emails to psf-members-announce,
> which
> >> just say "susbcribe" -- anyone else seeing this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alex
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>> FYI: I've turned off the approval requirement for the
> >> psf-members-announce
> >>>>>>> list, so that people should immediately get an email when they sign
> >>>>>>> up as PSF member.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> >>>>>>> eGenix.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source
> >>>>>>>>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...
> >> http://www.egenix.com/
> >>>>>>>>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...
> >> http://zope.egenix.com/
> >>>>>>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...
> >> http://python.egenix.com/
> >>>>>>>
> >> ________________________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free !
> >> ::::
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH
>  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
> >>>>>>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
> >>>>>>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
> >>>>>>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
> >>>>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
> >>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
> >> right to say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire)
> >>>>>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
> >>>>>> GPG Key fingerprint: 125F 5C67 DFE9 4084
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
> >>>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
> >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> >> Director
> >> Python Software Foundation (PSF)
> >> http://www.python.org/psf/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > pydotorg-www mailing list
> > pydotorg-www at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
> >
>
> --
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> Director
> Python Software Foundation (PSF)
> http://www.python.org/psf/
>



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From tseaver at palladion.com  Wed Apr 16 01:58:35 2014
From: tseaver at palladion.com (Tres Seaver)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:58:35 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Job Board status?
Message-ID: <534DC7AB.7040705@palladion.com>

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The Planet list received a recruitment e-mail today:  I'd like to be able
to point out to the writer that such e-mails are off-topic for that list,
and redirect to the job board:  however, that list is apparently *still*
in limbo.

Is there an ETA for the job board?



Tres.
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From mal at egenix.com  Wed Apr 16 14:27:45 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:27:45 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Job Board status?
In-Reply-To: <534DC7AB.7040705@palladion.com>
References: <534DC7AB.7040705@palladion.com>
Message-ID: <534E7741.9080101@egenix.com>

On 16.04.2014 01:58, Tres Seaver wrote:
> The Planet list received a recruitment e-mail today:  I'd like to be able to point out to the
> writer that such e-mails are off-topic for that list, and redirect to the job board:  however,
> that list is apparently *still* in limbo.
> 
> Is there an ETA for the job board?

The job board app changes are still in the works.

Note that we are collecting all postings to the jobs at python.org list
in the database, so they are only delayed, not lost. You can point
people there and to the howto:

https://www.python.org/community/jobs/howto/

Thanks,
-- 
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eGenix.com

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From tseaver at palladion.com  Wed Apr 16 16:10:10 2014
From: tseaver at palladion.com (Tres Seaver)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:10:10 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Job Board status?
In-Reply-To: <534E7741.9080101@egenix.com>
References: <534DC7AB.7040705@palladion.com> <534E7741.9080101@egenix.com>
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On 04/16/2014 08:27 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 16.04.2014 01:58, Tres Seaver wrote:
>> The Planet list received a recruitment e-mail today:  I'd like to
>> be able to point out to the writer that such e-mails are off-topic
>> for that list, and redirect to the job board:  however, that list
>> is apparently *still* in limbo.
>> 
>> Is there an ETA for the job board?
> 
> The job board app changes are still in the works.
> 
> Note that we are collecting all postings to the jobs at python.org list 
> in the database, so they are only delayed, not lost. You can point 
> people there and to the howto:
> 
> https://www.python.org/community/jobs/howto/

Hmm, we're two months and counting since the new site launched.  "Time is
of the essence" certainly applies to job listings:  I don't think anybody
actively looking to hire is going to be happy about submitting it on
a"we're collecting them, they will be online somtime in the indefinite
future" basis.


Tres.
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From carl at personnelware.com  Wed Apr 16 16:40:35 2014
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:40:35 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Job Board status?
In-Reply-To: <534E8F42.4090507@palladion.com>
References: <534DC7AB.7040705@palladion.com> <534E7741.9080101@egenix.com>
 <534E8F42.4090507@palladion.com>
Message-ID: <CADmzSSggpkj3wMuhwESNTK-ai_pbEaZvjctJ9zp+1Nn4GuWKgQ@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder how good or bad it would be to see if a company wants to sponsor
the job board.

I suspect it would be "we will put a developer on it" not "we will pay some
other company to
move this along."


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Tres Seaver <tseaver at palladion.com> wrote:

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> On 04/16/2014 08:27 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > On 16.04.2014 01:58, Tres Seaver wrote:
> >> The Planet list received a recruitment e-mail today:  I'd like to
> >> be able to point out to the writer that such e-mails are off-topic
> >> for that list, and redirect to the job board:  however, that list
> >> is apparently *still* in limbo.
> >>
> >> Is there an ETA for the job board?
> >
> > The job board app changes are still in the works.
> >
> > Note that we are collecting all postings to the jobs at python.org list
> > in the database, so they are only delayed, not lost. You can point
> > people there and to the howto:
> >
> > https://www.python.org/community/jobs/howto/
>
> Hmm, we're two months and counting since the new site launched.  "Time is
> of the essence" certainly applies to job listings:  I don't think anybody
> actively looking to hire is going to be happy about submitting it on
> a"we're collecting them, they will be online somtime in the indefinite
> future" basis.
>
>
> Tres.
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From mal at python.org  Wed Apr 16 17:46:25 2014
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 17:46:25 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Job Board status?
In-Reply-To: <534E8F42.4090507@palladion.com>
References: <534DC7AB.7040705@palladion.com> <534E7741.9080101@egenix.com>
 <534E8F42.4090507@palladion.com>
Message-ID: <534EA5D1.6030705@python.org>

On 16.04.2014 16:10, Tres Seaver wrote:
> On 04/16/2014 08:27 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 16.04.2014 01:58, Tres Seaver wrote:
>>> The Planet list received a recruitment e-mail today:  I'd like to
>>> be able to point out to the writer that such e-mails are off-topic
>>> for that list, and redirect to the job board:  however, that list
>>> is apparently *still* in limbo.
>>>
>>> Is there an ETA for the job board?
> 
>> The job board app changes are still in the works.
> 
>> Note that we are collecting all postings to the jobs at python.org list 
>> in the database, so they are only delayed, not lost. You can point 
>> people there and to the howto:
> 
>> https://www.python.org/community/jobs/howto/
> 
> Hmm, we're two months and counting since the new site launched.  "Time is
> of the essence" certainly applies to job listings:  I don't think anybody
> actively looking to hire is going to be happy about submitting it on
> a"we're collecting them, they will be online somtime in the indefinite
> future" basis.

True, but that's the way things currently look. If you want to help
with the development, I can sign you up to the jobs team.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/

From ned at nedbatchelder.com  Thu Apr 17 02:40:55 2014
From: ned at nedbatchelder.com (Ned Batchelder)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:40:55 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Willison award page is missing Anna
Message-ID: <534F2317.7060309@nedbatchelder.com>

This page: https://www.python.org/community/awards/frank-willison/ 
doesn't mention Anna Ravenscroft, who apparently won in 2013: 
http://www.josetteorama.com/the-2013-frank-willison-memorial-award/

I tried to login, but have no account, and there's no sign-up page? 
Sorry to be so confused.

--Ned.

From brian at python.org  Thu Apr 17 04:05:40 2014
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 22:05:40 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Willison award page is missing Anna
In-Reply-To: <534F2317.7060309@nedbatchelder.com>
References: <534F2317.7060309@nedbatchelder.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwpbhGa76dds4LOOAY626MXP6XBH6fi1vOQMw47twYpLbw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Ned Batchelder <ned at nedbatchelder.com> wrote:
> This page: https://www.python.org/community/awards/frank-willison/ doesn't
> mention Anna Ravenscroft, who apparently won in 2013:
> http://www.josetteorama.com/the-2013-frank-willison-memorial-award/
>
> I tried to login, but have no account, and there's no sign-up page? Sorry to
> be so confused.

Thanks for the head's up. I also need to get the other award pages up
to date with the ones we just gave out, and will cover it tomorrow.

From adam_burke_mail at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 19 03:29:19 2014
From: adam_burke_mail at yahoo.com (Adam)
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:29:19 +0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spiced ham edits on the Jython wiki
In-Reply-To: <53498626.8090406@egenix.com>
References: <1397317211.33723.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <53498626.8090406@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <704FC518-BAF8-42F9-800A-81ACE090A01B@yahoo.com>

There's definitely a plague of it at the moment, a hundred or so guff edits in the last week. Can we add some more edit prompts or something?

Adam

On 13 Apr, 2014, at 2:29 AM, "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

> On 12.04.2014 17:40, Adam Burke wrote:
>> I just reverted some super-obvious stuff. Is there any particular contact or protocol preferred when this happens? The wiki itself just listed this mailing list, that I could see. Also could someone with the appropriate permissions delete these pages:
> 
> This list is fine.
> 
>> https://wiki.python.org/jython/Follow_This_Advice_To_Enhance_Your_Individual_Development
>> 
>> https://wiki.python.org/jython/Inside_Fast_Solutions_Of_hair_extensions
>> 
>> https://wiki.python.org/jython/A_Highlight_On_Techniques_In_Antivirus_Norton_coupon_code_2016
>> 
>> https://wiki.python.org/jython/Finding_Convenient_Advice_For_hair_extensions
>> 
>> https://wiki.python.org/jython/How-To_Cure_Hemorrhoids__Obat_Wasir_Ambeien_
> 
> Thanks for reporting these pages. I've deleted them now.
> 
> -- 
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> eGenix.com
> 
> Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 
> ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::
> 
> 
>   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
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From mal at egenix.com  Sun Apr 20 13:19:41 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:19:41 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spiced ham edits on the Jython wiki
In-Reply-To: <704FC518-BAF8-42F9-800A-81ACE090A01B@yahoo.com>
References: <1397317211.33723.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>	<53498626.8090406@egenix.com>
 <704FC518-BAF8-42F9-800A-81ACE090A01B@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5353AD4D.4010800@egenix.com>

On 19.04.2014 03:29, Adam wrote:
> There's definitely a plague of it at the moment, a hundred or so guff edits in the last week. Can we add some more edit prompts or something?

These are the things we can:

 * add more edit questions/answers (if you have suggestions,
   please email them directly to me, since this list is public)

 * actively block users who are spamming the wiki

   https://wiki.python.org/jython/BlockedUsersGroup

 * adding often used keywords or URLs to the page block list

   https://wiki.python.org/jython/LocalBadContent

I've added you as wiki admin now, so you can also delete pages
and modify the above block list pages.

> Adam
> 
> On 13 Apr, 2014, at 2:29 AM, "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 12.04.2014 17:40, Adam Burke wrote:
>>> I just reverted some super-obvious stuff. Is there any particular contact or protocol preferred when this happens? The wiki itself just listed this mailing list, that I could see. Also could someone with the appropriate permissions delete these pages:
>>
>> This list is fine.
>>
>>> https://wiki.python.org/jython/Follow_This_Advice_To_Enhance_Your_Individual_Development
>>>
>>> https://wiki.python.org/jython/Inside_Fast_Solutions_Of_hair_extensions
>>>
>>> https://wiki.python.org/jython/A_Highlight_On_Techniques_In_Antivirus_Norton_coupon_code_2016
>>>
>>> https://wiki.python.org/jython/Finding_Convenient_Advice_For_hair_extensions
>>>
>>> https://wiki.python.org/jython/How-To_Cure_Hemorrhoids__Obat_Wasir_Ambeien_
>>
>> Thanks for reporting these pages. I've deleted them now.
>>
>> -- 
>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>> eGenix.com
>>
>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>>>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::
>>
>>
>>   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::


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           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
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From techtonik at gmail.com  Mon Apr 21 19:29:18 2014
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:29:18 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spiced ham edits on the Jython wiki
In-Reply-To: <5353AD4D.4010800@egenix.com>
References: <1397317211.33723.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <53498626.8090406@egenix.com> <704FC518-BAF8-42F9-800A-81ACE090A01B@yahoo.com>
 <5353AD4D.4010800@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8x+q8rPMZsEWMjJiK5gHw247FHs=F=d+MFvYfjXY7DMW6w@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> On 19.04.2014 03:29, Adam wrote:
>> There's definitely a plague of it at the moment, a hundred or so guff edits in the last week. Can we add some more edit prompts or something?
>
> These are the things we can:
>
>  * add more edit questions/answers (if you have suggestions,
>    please email them directly to me, since this list is public)

Is it possible to add some throttling analysis to see if new users
behave bad to prepare automated list of edits to revert? (robots
fighting robots)

-- 
anatoly t.

From mal at egenix.com  Mon Apr 21 20:44:11 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:44:11 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spiced ham edits on the Jython wiki
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8x+q8rPMZsEWMjJiK5gHw247FHs=F=d+MFvYfjXY7DMW6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1397317211.33723.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>	<53498626.8090406@egenix.com>	<704FC518-BAF8-42F9-800A-81ACE090A01B@yahoo.com>	<5353AD4D.4010800@egenix.com>
 <CAPkN8x+q8rPMZsEWMjJiK5gHw247FHs=F=d+MFvYfjXY7DMW6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <535566FB.4070607@egenix.com>

On 21.04.2014 19:29, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>> On 19.04.2014 03:29, Adam wrote:
>>> There's definitely a plague of it at the moment, a hundred or so guff edits in the last week. Can we add some more edit prompts or something?
>>
>> These are the things we can:
>>
>>  * add more edit questions/answers (if you have suggestions,
>>    please email them directly to me, since this list is public)
> 
> Is it possible to add some throttling analysis to see if new users
> behave bad to prepare automated list of edits to revert? (robots
> fighting robots)

I have no idea what you're talking about.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::


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From techtonik at gmail.com  Mon Apr 21 21:27:01 2014
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 22:27:01 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spiced ham edits on the Jython wiki
In-Reply-To: <535566FB.4070607@egenix.com>
References: <1397317211.33723.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <53498626.8090406@egenix.com> <704FC518-BAF8-42F9-800A-81ACE090A01B@yahoo.com>
 <5353AD4D.4010800@egenix.com>
 <CAPkN8x+q8rPMZsEWMjJiK5gHw247FHs=F=d+MFvYfjXY7DMW6w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAPkN8xKedJ=eOqaga8PgNE3a5yWq5PdmMiSfYTNP3O-GWWLsww@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 9:44 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> On 21.04.2014 19:29, anatoly techtonik wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>> On 19.04.2014 03:29, Adam wrote:
>>>> There's definitely a plague of it at the moment, a hundred or so guff edits in the last week. Can we add some more edit prompts or something?
>>>
>>> These are the things we can:
>>>
>>>  * add more edit questions/answers (if you have suggestions,
>>>    please email them directly to me, since this list is public)
>>
>> Is it possible to add some throttling analysis to see if new users
>> behave bad to prepare automated list of edits to revert? (robots
>> fighting robots)
>
> I have no idea what you're talking about.

1. Measure rate of POST requests per minute.
2. If the rate exceeds 2 for single user, add this pages to the list of
    reverts
4. Send mails with all links necessary to revert edits and
    ban user to wiki admins

-- 
anatoly t.

From mal at egenix.com  Tue Apr 22 12:55:56 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:55:56 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spiced ham edits on the Jython wiki
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xKedJ=eOqaga8PgNE3a5yWq5PdmMiSfYTNP3O-GWWLsww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1397317211.33723.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>	<53498626.8090406@egenix.com>	<704FC518-BAF8-42F9-800A-81ACE090A01B@yahoo.com>	<5353AD4D.4010800@egenix.com>	<CAPkN8x+q8rPMZsEWMjJiK5gHw247FHs=F=d+MFvYfjXY7DMW6w@mail.gmail.com>	<535566FB.4070607@egenix.com>
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Message-ID: <53564ABC.5030600@egenix.com>

On 21.04.2014 21:27, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 9:44 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>> On 21.04.2014 19:29, anatoly techtonik wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 2:19 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>>> On 19.04.2014 03:29, Adam wrote:
>>>>> There's definitely a plague of it at the moment, a hundred or so guff edits in the last week. Can we add some more edit prompts or something?
>>>>
>>>> These are the things we can:
>>>>
>>>>  * add more edit questions/answers (if you have suggestions,
>>>>    please email them directly to me, since this list is public)
>>>
>>> Is it possible to add some throttling analysis to see if new users
>>> behave bad to prepare automated list of edits to revert? (robots
>>> fighting robots)
>>
>> I have no idea what you're talking about.
> 
> 1. Measure rate of POST requests per minute.
> 2. If the rate exceeds 2 for single user, add this pages to the list of
>     reverts
> 4. Send mails with all links necessary to revert edits and
>     ban user to wiki admins

We're not even close to POSTs per minute rates, so this would not
be helpful.

A regular look at the RecentChanges wiki page already solves most of
what you're suggesting.

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From wfbergmann at gmail.com  Thu Apr 24 23:39:30 2014
From: wfbergmann at gmail.com (Bill Bergmann)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:39:30 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python 3.4 many problems,
	no ability to register and report bugs
Message-ID: <6E848674-B737-4D12-8BA6-68EB9918795B@gmail.com>

Along with doing my own work in python I lead a couple user groups in python in Albuquerque, NM. After some perl programmers in one group asked me about whether python 3 is proving to be perl 6, I decided to take on a serious project with python 3.4 to find out for myself. I have discovered many problems and few documented solutions or workarounds for the problems I am finding. 

Along the way, I have found the installation of python 3.4 to have created various problems with python 2.7. For example: bcrypt is currently inoperable within python 2.7 despite several attempted workarounds. Yes, I am familiar with virtualenv, but the problem seems to be beyond the ability of virtualenv to insulate it.

I decided to do my part and file some bug reports. I am not able to register at the python bug tracker. I'm not too naive a programmer. I've programmed in python over ten years, and I am concerned. These problems have not been characteristic of my experiences with python, and the current state of disarray makes advocating for python problematic. If I am experiencing these problems, I think it safe to say that there are many others. Programmers from other programming languages will meet these problems and simply walk away from python. 

What is going on? Any suggestions?

Bill Bergmann


The example code from the Python Standard Library 17.4.2.1 run on python 3.4:

$ python3 17_4_2.py 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 2195, in _find_and_load_unlocked
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute '__path__'

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "17_4_2.py", line 1, in <module>
    import concurrent.futures
ImportError: No module named 'concurrent.futures'; 'concurrent' is not a package


I am running this on OS X 10.6:
$env 

PATH=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin: ...

PYTHONPATH=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/: 


From thomas at python.org  Fri Apr 25 03:00:27 2014
From: thomas at python.org (Thomas Wouters)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:00:27 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python 3.4 many problems,
 no ability to register and report bugs
In-Reply-To: <6E848674-B737-4D12-8BA6-68EB9918795B@gmail.com>
References: <6E848674-B737-4D12-8BA6-68EB9918795B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdQG2qspftQR8nPpr3p99TQss0W3TAct9_5Xw2_HavAu7ymVQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Bill Bergmann <wfbergmann at gmail.com> wrote:

> Along with doing my own work in python I lead a couple user groups in
> python in Albuquerque, NM. After some perl programmers in one group asked
> me about whether python 3 is proving to be perl 6, I decided to take on a
> serious project with python 3.4 to find out for myself. I have discovered
> many problems and few documented solutions or workarounds for the problems
> I am finding.
>
> Along the way, I have found the installation of python 3.4 to have created
> various problems with python 2.7. For example: bcrypt is currently
> inoperable within python 2.7 despite several attempted workarounds. Yes, I
> am familiar with virtualenv, but the problem seems to be beyond the ability
> of virtualenv to insulate it.
>
> I decided to do my part and file some bug reports. I am not able to
> register at the python bug tracker. I'm not too naive a programmer. I've
> programmed in python over ten years, and I am concerned. These problems
> have not been characteristic of my experiences with python, and the current
> state of disarray makes advocating for python problematic. If I am
> experiencing these problems, I think it safe to say that there are many
> others. Programmers from other programming languages will meet these
> problems and simply walk away from python.
>
>
How did you try to register on bugs.python.org? How did it fail?



> What is going on? Any suggestions?
>
> Bill Bergmann
>
>
> The example code from the Python Standard Library 17.4.2.1 run on python
> 3.4:
>
> $ python3 17_4_2.py
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 2195, in
> _find_and_load_unlocked
> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute '__path__'
>
> During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "17_4_2.py", line 1, in <module>
>     import concurrent.futures
> ImportError: No module named 'concurrent.futures'; 'concurrent' is not a
> package
>
>
> I am running this on OS X 10.6:
> $env
>
> PATH=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin:
> ...
>
>
> PYTHONPATH=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/:
>

Don't set PYTHONPATH. Certainly don't set it to the site-packages
directories of different Python versions. Don't set it to the empty string
(the last item) either, as that will mean 'the current working directory'.
I suspect your problems will be solved if you unset this.


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From adam_burke_mail at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 30 16:34:58 2014
From: adam_burke_mail at yahoo.com (Adam Burke)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Restoring DjangoOnJython wiki page
Message-ID: <1398868498.13336.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

https://wiki.python.org/jython/DjangoOnJython


It seems this was deleted out of accident or malice.

History is visible but when I go to recreate the page I get an error?Page could not get locked. Missing 'current' file?

Which is possibly itself an anti junk measure.

Cheers
Adam
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