From mal at egenix.com  Thu May  1 21:34:21 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 21:34:21 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Restoring DjangoOnJython wiki page
In-Reply-To: <1398868498.13336.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1398868498.13336.YahooMailNeo@web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5362A1BD.7050402@egenix.com>

On 30.04.2014 16:34, Adam Burke wrote:
> https://wiki.python.org/jython/DjangoOnJython
> 
> 
> It seems this was deleted out of accident or malice.
> 
> History is visible but when I go to recreate the page I get an error Page could not get locked. Missing 'current' file?
> 
> Which is possibly itself an anti junk measure.

I don't know what caused this. I had to fix the problem at the file
level. The page is now restored.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

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From mal at egenix.com  Fri May  2 15:08:00 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 15:08:00 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Adding new team members
Message-ID: <536398B0.4040004@egenix.com>

As some of you may know, I'm part of the Python Job Board team and
help them get the board working with the new system.

In order for the development members of the team to efficiently
work on the jobs app, I'd like to add them as team members to
the pydotorg repo.

Are there any objections ?
Is there some procedure for this or can I simply add them on
github ?

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 02 2014)
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>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2014-04-24: Released mxODBC.Connect 2.0.5 ...     http://egenix.com/go55

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

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From noah at coderanger.net  Fri May  2 19:55:44 2014
From: noah at coderanger.net (Noah Kantrowitz)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 10:55:44 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Adding new team members
In-Reply-To: <536398B0.4040004@egenix.com>
References: <536398B0.4040004@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <925BBF3D-9AB3-46C2-BCCF-664F9D61E463@coderanger.net>

Just contact me or infrastructure-staff at python.org and we can take care of it. Only trusted community members should be given direct push access though. Anyone can contribute easily via the normal fork&merge-req process.

--Noah

On May 2, 2014, at 6:08 AM, "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

> As some of you may know, I'm part of the Python Job Board team and
> help them get the board working with the new system.
> 
> In order for the development members of the team to efficiently
> work on the jobs app, I'd like to add them as team members to
> the pydotorg repo.
> 
> Are there any objections ?
> Is there some procedure for this or can I simply add them on
> github ?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> eGenix.com
> 
> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 02 2014)
>>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2014-04-24: Released mxODBC.Connect 2.0.5 ...     http://egenix.com/go55
> 
> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
> 
>   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
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From mal at egenix.com  Fri May  2 20:18:26 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 20:18:26 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Adding new team members
In-Reply-To: <925BBF3D-9AB3-46C2-BCCF-664F9D61E463@coderanger.net>
References: <536398B0.4040004@egenix.com>
 <925BBF3D-9AB3-46C2-BCCF-664F9D61E463@coderanger.net>
Message-ID: <5363E172.4040501@egenix.com>

Hi Noah,

On 02.05.2014 19:55, Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
> Just contact me or infrastructure-staff at python.org and we can take care of it. Only trusted community members should be given direct push access though. Anyone can contribute easily via the normal fork&merge-req process.

Thanks. We already decided to setup a separate org account
on github and will then pull from there.

> --Noah
> 
> On May 2, 2014, at 6:08 AM, "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> 
>> As some of you may know, I'm part of the Python Job Board team and
>> help them get the board working with the new system.
>>
>> In order for the development members of the team to efficiently
>> work on the jobs app, I'd like to add them as team members to
>> the pydotorg repo.
>>
>> Are there any objections ?
>> Is there some procedure for this or can I simply add them on
>> github ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -- 
>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>> eGenix.com

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 02 2014)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2014-04-24: Released mxODBC.Connect 2.0.5 ...     http://egenix.com/go55

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

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From dpinte at enthought.com  Tue May  6 18:09:15 2014
From: dpinte at enthought.com (Didrik Pinte)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 18:09:15 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] page removed from wiki.python.org
In-Reply-To: <9CCBFEF6-241D-4608-92EE-A7762A5BA565@enthought.com>
References: <9CCBFEF6-241D-4608-92EE-A7762A5BA565@enthought.com>
Message-ID: <CAD5ZxVxK1KwUEc-sRUTq3A_CMbZKnJbRDvYyXVLv60T61-tYgQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I found the reason. It sounds like in the recent changes they were some
spam on the page that lead to have the page deleted. I have reverted the
page to the last correct revision:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/LondonFinancialPythonUserGroup

Sorry for the noise.

Thanks,

-- Didrik


On 6 May 2014 18:04, Didrik Pinte <dpinte at enthought.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The following page has been removed from the wiki.python.org :
>
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/LondonFinancialPythonUserGroup
>
> It is still referenced from https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups
>
> Is there a way to resurrect this page. I don't really get why somebody
> deleted that page. I suspect it was an error.
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> -- Didrik
> Enthought Inc.
>



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From dpinte at enthought.com  Tue May  6 18:04:43 2014
From: dpinte at enthought.com (Didrik Pinte)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 18:04:43 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] page removed from wiki.python.org
Message-ID: <9CCBFEF6-241D-4608-92EE-A7762A5BA565@enthought.com>

Hi,

The following page has been removed from the wiki.python.org :

https://wiki.python.org/moin/LondonFinancialPythonUserGroup

It is still referenced from https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups

Is there a way to resurrect this page. I don't really get why somebody deleted that page. I suspect it was an error.

Thanks for the help,

-- Didrik
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From michael at voidspace.org.uk  Thu May  8 00:13:29 2014
From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 23:13:29 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: www.python.org SSL certificate?
References: <CAB2ovosLC4yd05wHSFhCQ7mJyyC8d-xWpn+NApWuzqj-0kOa8g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D3B057E8-BB04-438C-B842-34DBC42480D7@voidspace.org.uk>

If there is an answer to this query please reply directly to Bennet. Otherwise I assume something needs fixing. Or not.

All the best,

Michael Foord

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Bennet Fauber <bennet at umich.edu>
> Subject: www.python.org SSL certificate?
> Date: 1 May 2014 22:01:33 BST
> To: webmaster at python.org
> 
> Hi, I went to download the Python 3.4.0 source tar ball and got this
> transaction.
> 
> $ wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.0/Python-3.4.0.tgz
> --2014-05-01 16:56:59--
> https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.0/Python-3.4.0.tgz
> Resolving www.python.org... 199.27.73.175
> Connecting to www.python.org|199.27.73.175|:443... connected.
> ERROR: certificate common name ?*.c.ssl.fastly.net? doesn?t match
> requested host name ?www.python.org?.
> To connect to www.python.org insecurely, use ?--no-check-certificate?.
> 
> Is there a server to which I can connect that has a proper certificate?
> 
> Thanks,  -- bennet


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From donald at stufft.io  Thu May  8 00:15:11 2014
From: donald at stufft.io (Donald Stufft)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 18:15:11 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] Fwd: www.python.org SSL
	certificate?
In-Reply-To: <D3B057E8-BB04-438C-B842-34DBC42480D7@voidspace.org.uk>
References: <CAB2ovosLC4yd05wHSFhCQ7mJyyC8d-xWpn+NApWuzqj-0kOa8g@mail.gmail.com>
 <D3B057E8-BB04-438C-B842-34DBC42480D7@voidspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <02DB5E9E-2D73-4AF5-9119-98B9B4918013@stufft.io>

Upgrade wget.

http://docs.fastly.com/guides/21844521/28044758

On May 7, 2014, at 6:13 PM, Michael Foord <michael at voidspace.org.uk> wrote:

> If there is an answer to this query please reply directly to Bennet. Otherwise I assume something needs fixing. Or not.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Michael Foord
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Bennet Fauber <bennet at umich.edu>
>> Subject: www.python.org SSL certificate?
>> Date: 1 May 2014 22:01:33 BST
>> To: webmaster at python.org
>> 
>> Hi, I went to download the Python 3.4.0 source tar ball and got this
>> transaction.
>> 
>> $ wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.0/Python-3.4.0.tgz
>> --2014-05-01 16:56:59--
>> https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.0/Python-3.4.0.tgz
>> Resolving www.python.org... 199.27.73.175
>> Connecting to www.python.org|199.27.73.175|:443... connected.
>> ERROR: certificate common name ?*.c.ssl.fastly.net? doesn?t match
>> requested host name ?www.python.org?.
>> To connect to www.python.org insecurely, use ?--no-check-certificate?.
>> 
>> Is there a server to which I can connect that has a proper certificate?
>> 
>> Thanks,  -- bennet
> 
> 
> --
> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/
> 
> 
> May you do good and not evil
> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
> -- the sqlite blessing 
> http://www.sqlite.org/different.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________
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> Infrastructure at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
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From michael at voidspace.org.uk  Thu May  8 00:15:08 2014
From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 23:15:08 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] Fwd: www.python.org SSL
	certificate?
In-Reply-To: <1399500868.23674.114872037.43DFF7C6@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <CAB2ovosLC4yd05wHSFhCQ7mJyyC8d-xWpn+NApWuzqj-0kOa8g@mail.gmail.com>
 <D3B057E8-BB04-438C-B842-34DBC42480D7@voidspace.org.uk>
 <1399500868.23674.114872037.43DFF7C6@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <E21FE4CA-2EA1-48A9-83EE-BAA36037AE94@voidspace.org.uk>


On 7 May 2014, at 23:14, Benjamin Peterson <benjamin at python.org> wrote:

> FYI, the answer is always upgrade openssl/wget.
> 

Ah ok. :-) Thanks for the quick reply. I'll reply to Bennet.

Michael

> On Wed, May 7, 2014, at 15:13, Michael Foord wrote:
>> If there is an answer to this query please reply directly to Bennet.
>> Otherwise I assume something needs fixing. Or not.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Michael Foord
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Bennet Fauber <bennet at umich.edu>
>>> Subject: www.python.org SSL certificate?
>>> Date: 1 May 2014 22:01:33 BST
>>> To: webmaster at python.org
>>> 
>>> Hi, I went to download the Python 3.4.0 source tar ball and got this
>>> transaction.
>>> 
>>> $ wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.0/Python-3.4.0.tgz
>>> --2014-05-01 16:56:59--
>>> https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.0/Python-3.4.0.tgz
>>> Resolving www.python.org... 199.27.73.175
>>> Connecting to www.python.org|199.27.73.175|:443... connected.
>>> ERROR: certificate common name ?*.c.ssl.fastly.net? doesn?t match
>>> requested host name ?www.python.org?.
>>> To connect to www.python.org insecurely, use ?--no-check-certificate?.
>>> 
>>> Is there a server to which I can connect that has a proper certificate?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,  -- bennet
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/
>> 
>> 
>> May you do good and not evil
>> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
>> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
>> -- the sqlite blessing 
>> http://www.sqlite.org/different.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________________
>> Infrastructure mailing list
>> Infrastructure at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
>> Unsubscribe:
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/infrastructure/benjamin%40python.org


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May you do good and not evil
May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
-- the sqlite blessing 
http://www.sqlite.org/different.html






From mal at python.org  Thu May  8 11:57:39 2014
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 11:57:39 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Firebox Training on the Python wiki
Message-ID: <536B5513.5020804@python.org>

Hi Shawn,

Skip kindly forwarded your email. I have had a look at your edits on the
wiki where you try to promote Firebox Training and the Python training
page itself.

Please note that we do not appreciate excessive SEO edits on the wiki.

I've edited the events and training page to remove the excessive
use of emphasis on those pages and added a section to the training
page asking for use of a common format and to play fair. This will
hopefully get the page back into a usable state again.

Please edit your training page entries for Firebox and trim them down
to a size comparable to the other entries.

https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining

PS: I've added a link to the trainings page on the wiki frontpage,
since it's a useful entry to have on that page.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/


> Can you update the home page of https://wiki.python.org/moin/ or direct me
> to who could update that page?
> 
> If you can update it we would like to see this section changed to include a
> link to Python Training
> Events, Courses, Conferences, Community
> 
>    -
> 
>    Python Conferences <https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonConferences> -
>    information about the Python conference scene
>    -
> 
>    Python Events <https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEvents> - covers
>    conferences, training courses and more
>    -
> 
>    Local User Groups <https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups> - find
>    a Python group near you
>    -
> 
>    Python Event Calendars<https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEventsCalendar> -
>    calendars for Python conferences and user groups
>    -
> 
>    Participating in the Community <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Community> -
>    where people using and producing Python get together
>    -
> 
>    Find a job where you can use
> Python<https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonJobs> -
>    Python job boards around the world
> 
> 
> We would like to see if you could break out
> 
> Python Events - that links to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEvents
> 
> and ADD BACK IN
> 
> Python Training - that links to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining


From benjamin at python.org  Thu May  8 00:14:28 2014
From: benjamin at python.org (Benjamin Peterson)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 15:14:28 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] Fwd: www.python.org SSL
	certificate?
In-Reply-To: <D3B057E8-BB04-438C-B842-34DBC42480D7@voidspace.org.uk>
References: <CAB2ovosLC4yd05wHSFhCQ7mJyyC8d-xWpn+NApWuzqj-0kOa8g@mail.gmail.com>
 <D3B057E8-BB04-438C-B842-34DBC42480D7@voidspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <1399500868.23674.114872037.43DFF7C6@webmail.messagingengine.com>

FYI, the answer is always upgrade openssl/wget.

On Wed, May 7, 2014, at 15:13, Michael Foord wrote:
> If there is an answer to this query please reply directly to Bennet.
> Otherwise I assume something needs fixing. Or not.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Michael Foord
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> > From: Bennet Fauber <bennet at umich.edu>
> > Subject: www.python.org SSL certificate?
> > Date: 1 May 2014 22:01:33 BST
> > To: webmaster at python.org
> > 
> > Hi, I went to download the Python 3.4.0 source tar ball and got this
> > transaction.
> > 
> > $ wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.0/Python-3.4.0.tgz
> > --2014-05-01 16:56:59--
> > https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.0/Python-3.4.0.tgz
> > Resolving www.python.org... 199.27.73.175
> > Connecting to www.python.org|199.27.73.175|:443... connected.
> > ERROR: certificate common name ?*.c.ssl.fastly.net? doesn?t match
> > requested host name ?www.python.org?.
> > To connect to www.python.org insecurely, use ?--no-check-certificate?.
> > 
> > Is there a server to which I can connect that has a proper certificate?
> > 
> > Thanks,  -- bennet
> 
> 
> --
> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/
> 
> 
> May you do good and not evil
> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
> -- the sqlite blessing 
> http://www.sqlite.org/different.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________
> Infrastructure mailing list
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> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
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From nad at acm.org  Tue May 20 01:05:09 2014
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 16:05:09 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Beginners Guide Download Python page is
	out-of-date
Message-ID: <68ABD3E8-237A-42A9-BD76-83F55C0B69F7@acm.org>

The Python Wiki Beginners Guide Download Python page is woefully out-of-date.  Among other things, it mentions 2.7.3 and 3.2.3 as the current versions.  Unfortunately, the page is immutable.  Perhaps it should avoid mentioning specific releases and point instead to the official download page maintained by the release managers.

https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Download

https://www.python.org/downloads/

This has caused confusion for at least one beginner:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23746900/

--
  Ned Deily
  nad at acm.org -- []



From mal at egenix.com  Tue May 20 01:16:50 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 01:16:50 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Beginners Guide Download Python page
 is out-of-date
In-Reply-To: <68ABD3E8-237A-42A9-BD76-83F55C0B69F7@acm.org>
References: <68ABD3E8-237A-42A9-BD76-83F55C0B69F7@acm.org>
Message-ID: <537A90E2.2060206@egenix.com>

On 20.05.2014 01:05, Ned Deily wrote:
> The Python Wiki Beginners Guide Download Python page is woefully out-of-date.  Among other things, it mentions 2.7.3 and 3.2.3 as the current versions.  Unfortunately, the page is immutable.  Perhaps it should avoid mentioning specific releases and point instead to the official download page maintained by the release managers.
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Download
> 
> https://www.python.org/downloads/
> 
> This has caused confusion for at least one beginner:
> 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23746900/

The page is immutable due to frequent spam attacks on the page.
If you'd like to change it, please provide your user id on the wiki.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 20 2014)
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From nad at acm.org  Tue May 20 01:22:24 2014
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 16:22:24 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Beginners Guide Download Python page
	is out-of-date
In-Reply-To: <537A90E2.2060206@egenix.com>
References: <68ABD3E8-237A-42A9-BD76-83F55C0B69F7@acm.org>
 <537A90E2.2060206@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <BA981993-D169-4E89-992B-F4A4BE1A2A04@acm.org>

On May 19, 2014, at 16:16 , M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> 
> On 20.05.2014 01:05, Ned Deily wrote:
>> The Python Wiki Beginners Guide Download Python page is woefully out-of-date.  Among other things, it mentions 2.7.3 and 3.2.3 as the current versions.  Unfortunately, the page is immutable.  Perhaps it should avoid mentioning specific releases and point instead to the official download page maintained by the release managers.
>> 
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Download
>> 
>> https://www.python.org/downloads/
>> 
>> This has caused confusion for at least one beginner:
>> 
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23746900/
> 
> The page is immutable due to frequent spam attacks on the page.
> If you'd like to change it, please provide your user id on the wiki.

Thanks, but I'm not interested in maintaining it myself.  There are too many other fires to fight elsewhere on python.org.

--
  Ned Deily
  nad at acm.org -- []




From mal at egenix.com  Tue May 20 10:03:40 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 10:03:40 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Beginners Guide Download Python page
 is out-of-date
In-Reply-To: <BA981993-D169-4E89-992B-F4A4BE1A2A04@acm.org>
References: <68ABD3E8-237A-42A9-BD76-83F55C0B69F7@acm.org>	<537A90E2.2060206@egenix.com>
 <BA981993-D169-4E89-992B-F4A4BE1A2A04@acm.org>
Message-ID: <537B0C5C.4040309@egenix.com>

On 20.05.2014 01:22, Ned Deily wrote:
> On May 19, 2014, at 16:16 , M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 20.05.2014 01:05, Ned Deily wrote:
>>> The Python Wiki Beginners Guide Download Python page is woefully out-of-date.  Among other things, it mentions 2.7.3 and 3.2.3 as the current versions.  Unfortunately, the page is immutable.  Perhaps it should avoid mentioning specific releases and point instead to the official download page maintained by the release managers.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Download
>>>
>>> https://www.python.org/downloads/
>>>
>>> This has caused confusion for at least one beginner:
>>>
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23746900/
>>
>> The page is immutable due to frequent spam attacks on the page.
>> If you'd like to change it, please provide your user id on the wiki.
> 
> Thanks, but I'm not interested in maintaining it myself.  There are too many other fires to fight elsewhere on python.org.

Ok, I've removed all specific links and replaced them with links to
the generic download release pages.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 20 2014)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

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    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
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From mal at egenix.com  Wed May 21 11:34:45 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 11:34:45 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Internal server error in jobs app on python.org
Message-ID: <537C7335.2080008@egenix.com>

Could someone with access to the python.org logs please let me know
what is causing the internal server you get on this URL:

https://www.python.org/newjobs/142/review/

This will have to do with the jobs app, but we cannot reproduce it.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 21 2014)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

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    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
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From mal at egenix.com  Wed May 21 19:00:14 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 19:00:14 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] python.org site updates not working
Message-ID: <537CDB9E.5080000@egenix.com>

I merged a pull request 8 hours ago, but the site still doesn't use
the new code.

Is there something I have to do to trigger a rebuild/deployment ?

AFAIK, chef should run every 30 minutes, so something seems to be
blocking those updates.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 21 2014)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/

From mal at egenix.com  Wed May 21 19:08:55 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 19:08:55 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] python.org site updates not
	working
In-Reply-To: <CAD1Aak16hWd_WxCfMHxU-bpdSbQnsXD7tMgxFWRF2BTjnLTZwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <537CDB9E.5080000@egenix.com>
 <CAD1Aak16hWd_WxCfMHxU-bpdSbQnsXD7tMgxFWRF2BTjnLTZwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <537CDDA7.6040201@egenix.com>

On 21.05.2014 19:04, Ernest W. Durbin III wrote:
> Marc-Andre,
> 
> There is a release branch which is what is deployed to the production
> environment.

Thanks for the info. Is there a process to follow to get changes
pushed to the release branch e.g. a release manager to approve
changes ?

> -Ernest
> 
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:00 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>> I merged a pull request 8 hours ago, but the site still doesn't use
>> the new code.
>>
>> Is there something I have to do to trigger a rebuild/deployment ?
>>
>> AFAIK, chef should run every 30 minutes, so something seems to be
>> blocking those updates.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>> eGenix.com
>>
>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 21 2014)
>>>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
>>
>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>> ________________________________________________
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>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
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-- 
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eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 21 2014)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

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    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/

From ewdurbin at gmail.com  Wed May 21 19:04:14 2014
From: ewdurbin at gmail.com (Ernest W. Durbin III)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:04:14 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] python.org site updates not
	working
In-Reply-To: <537CDB9E.5080000@egenix.com>
References: <537CDB9E.5080000@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <CAD1Aak16hWd_WxCfMHxU-bpdSbQnsXD7tMgxFWRF2BTjnLTZwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Marc-Andre,

There is a release branch which is what is deployed to the production
environment.

-Ernest

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:00 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> I merged a pull request 8 hours ago, but the site still doesn't use
> the new code.
>
> Is there something I have to do to trigger a rebuild/deployment ?
>
> AFAIK, chef should run every 30 minutes, so something seems to be
> blocking those updates.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> eGenix.com
>
> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 21 2014)
>>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
>
>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
> ________________________________________________
> Infrastructure mailing list
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> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
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From noah at coderanger.net  Wed May 21 23:51:28 2014
From: noah at coderanger.net (Noah Kantrowitz)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 14:51:28 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] python.org site updates not
	working
In-Reply-To: <537CDDA7.6040201@egenix.com>
References: <537CDB9E.5080000@egenix.com>
 <CAD1Aak16hWd_WxCfMHxU-bpdSbQnsXD7tMgxFWRF2BTjnLTZwQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <537CDDA7.6040201@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <78692A51-E72D-413E-8104-175CE5044D62@coderanger.net>


On May 21, 2014, at 10:08 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

> On 21.05.2014 19:04, Ernest W. Durbin III wrote:
>> Marc-Andre,
>> 
>> There is a release branch which is what is deployed to the production
>> environment.
> 
> Thanks for the info. Is there a process to follow to get changes
> pushed to the release branch e.g. a release manager to approve
> changes ?

Not really. Benjamin had been acting as a bit of an overseer but he might be busy with summer job stuffs now so its a bit wild-west-style. If you break it, you get to fix it :)

--Noah

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From mal at egenix.com  Thu May 22 10:17:04 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 10:17:04 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] python.org site updates not
	working
In-Reply-To: <78692A51-E72D-413E-8104-175CE5044D62@coderanger.net>
References: <537CDB9E.5080000@egenix.com>	<CAD1Aak16hWd_WxCfMHxU-bpdSbQnsXD7tMgxFWRF2BTjnLTZwQ@mail.gmail.com>	<537CDDA7.6040201@egenix.com>
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Message-ID: <537DB280.90008@egenix.com>

On 21.05.2014 23:51, Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
> 
> On May 21, 2014, at 10:08 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 21.05.2014 19:04, Ernest W. Durbin III wrote:
>>> Marc-Andre,
>>>
>>> There is a release branch which is what is deployed to the production
>>> environment.
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Is there a process to follow to get changes
>> pushed to the release branch e.g. a release manager to approve
>> changes ?
> 
> Not really. Benjamin had been acting as a bit of an overseer but he might be busy with summer job stuffs now so its a bit wild-west-style. If you break it, you get to fix it :)

Fair enough. I'll then push the changes to the branch myself.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 22 2014)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

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    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/

From mal at python.org  Thu May 22 17:15:09 2014
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 17:15:09 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Suggestions for changes to the edu-sig list
In-Reply-To: <CAGMu_=pSSYGEdzXOryMSRXGEeanBJ-U-4yz5gY1y7mN9rLNwvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMDh89z3qsrF0h8RRSnzV=sq211EKnS4u9W_ETsPOhGPZPhspw@mail.gmail.com>	<CAGMu_=obkifLKqAHuZAR7q1XXLN-LHwRzKxqRjVJBNgW8zDucA@mail.gmail.com>	<51791CD5.3000309@python.org>
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Message-ID: <537E147D.6060909@python.org>

On 22.05.2014 16:59, Andre Roberge wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:08 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Andr?,
>>
>> I think you should ask on the edu-sig for a new maintainer. I've removed
>> your name from the bottom of the page.
>>
>> Hello,
> 
> Perhaps due to the timing with the Python site redesign, the people that
> volunteered to take over edu-sig never got involved with it.
> 
> Jeff Elkner (copied to this email) has volunteered to do so.  Jeff has been
> involved for more years than most in the Python world, especially due to
> his leadership in creating Guido van Robot, the well-known educational
> software.
> 
> Would it be possible for someone to help Jeff get in charge of maintaining
> the edu-sig page on the Python site?

I can give Jeff the needed permissions.

Jeff: Please create an account on the site and let me know the account
name.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/

From mal at python.org  Thu May 22 17:29:00 2014
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 17:29:00 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Suggestions for changes to the edu-sig list
In-Reply-To: <CABkKac_LRMG7FK+5y--f7n1OiTS4VWfuEpPREHHVZWYox-YpnA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMDh89z3qsrF0h8RRSnzV=sq211EKnS4u9W_ETsPOhGPZPhspw@mail.gmail.com>	<CAGMu_=obkifLKqAHuZAR7q1XXLN-LHwRzKxqRjVJBNgW8zDucA@mail.gmail.com>	<51791CD5.3000309@python.org>	<CAGMu_=pSSYGEdzXOryMSRXGEeanBJ-U-4yz5gY1y7mN9rLNwvg@mail.gmail.com>	<537E147D.6060909@python.org>
 <CABkKac_LRMG7FK+5y--f7n1OiTS4VWfuEpPREHHVZWYox-YpnA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <537E17BC.5030209@python.org>

On 22.05.2014 17:16, Jeff Elkner wrote:
> My user name is: jelkner

I setup permissions so that you can manage pages and the site
tree. You should be able to log into the Django CMS now:

https://www.python.org/admin/

Please let me know whether you need more permissions.

Note that part of the site is managed via templates, which don't
live in the CMS, but in the repo. You'd need a different set of
permissions for those. It usually easiest to just send in pull
requests:

https://github.com/python/pythondotorg

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/

From andre.roberge at gmail.com  Thu May 22 16:59:18 2014
From: andre.roberge at gmail.com (Andre Roberge)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 11:59:18 -0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Suggestions for changes to the edu-sig list
In-Reply-To: <51791CD5.3000309@python.org>
References: <CAMDh89z3qsrF0h8RRSnzV=sq211EKnS4u9W_ETsPOhGPZPhspw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGMu_=obkifLKqAHuZAR7q1XXLN-LHwRzKxqRjVJBNgW8zDucA@mail.gmail.com>
 <51791CD5.3000309@python.org>
Message-ID: <CAGMu_=pSSYGEdzXOryMSRXGEeanBJ-U-4yz5gY1y7mN9rLNwvg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:08 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:

> Hi Andr?,
>
> I think you should ask on the edu-sig for a new maintainer. I've removed
> your name from the bottom of the page.
>
> Hello,

Perhaps due to the timing with the Python site redesign, the people that
volunteered to take over edu-sig never got involved with it.

Jeff Elkner (copied to this email) has volunteered to do so.  Jeff has been
involved for more years than most in the Python world, especially due to
his leadership in creating Guido van Robot, the well-known educational
software.

Would it be possible for someone to help Jeff get in charge of maintaining
the edu-sig page on the Python site?
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From jeff at elkner.net  Thu May 22 17:16:45 2014
From: jeff at elkner.net (Jeff Elkner)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 11:16:45 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Suggestions for changes to the edu-sig list
In-Reply-To: <537E147D.6060909@python.org>
References: <CAMDh89z3qsrF0h8RRSnzV=sq211EKnS4u9W_ETsPOhGPZPhspw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGMu_=obkifLKqAHuZAR7q1XXLN-LHwRzKxqRjVJBNgW8zDucA@mail.gmail.com>
 <51791CD5.3000309@python.org>
 <CAGMu_=pSSYGEdzXOryMSRXGEeanBJ-U-4yz5gY1y7mN9rLNwvg@mail.gmail.com>
 <537E147D.6060909@python.org>
Message-ID: <CABkKac_LRMG7FK+5y--f7n1OiTS4VWfuEpPREHHVZWYox-YpnA@mail.gmail.com>

My user name is: jelkner

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:15 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:
> On 22.05.2014 16:59, Andre Roberge wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:08 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andr?,
>>>
>>> I think you should ask on the edu-sig for a new maintainer. I've removed
>>> your name from the bottom of the page.
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>
>> Perhaps due to the timing with the Python site redesign, the people that
>> volunteered to take over edu-sig never got involved with it.
>>
>> Jeff Elkner (copied to this email) has volunteered to do so.  Jeff has been
>> involved for more years than most in the Python world, especially due to
>> his leadership in creating Guido van Robot, the well-known educational
>> software.
>>
>> Would it be possible for someone to help Jeff get in charge of maintaining
>> the edu-sig page on the Python site?
>
> I can give Jeff the needed permissions.
>
> Jeff: Please create an account on the site and let me know the account
> name.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> Director
> Python Software Foundation
> http://www.python.org/psf/

From mal at python.org  Fri May 23 10:32:05 2014
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 10:32:05 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Suggestions for changes to the edu-sig list
In-Reply-To: <CABkKac9TUYc2LsmuoVnWckYKR8Y-N6GB8_x3pMD-ieez85RJqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMDh89z3qsrF0h8RRSnzV=sq211EKnS4u9W_ETsPOhGPZPhspw@mail.gmail.com>	<CAGMu_=obkifLKqAHuZAR7q1XXLN-LHwRzKxqRjVJBNgW8zDucA@mail.gmail.com>	<51791CD5.3000309@python.org>	<CAGMu_=pSSYGEdzXOryMSRXGEeanBJ-U-4yz5gY1y7mN9rLNwvg@mail.gmail.com>	<537E147D.6060909@python.org>	<CABkKac_LRMG7FK+5y--f7n1OiTS4VWfuEpPREHHVZWYox-YpnA@mail.gmail.com>	<537E17BC.5030209@python.org>
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Message-ID: <537F0785.3000904@python.org>

On 22.05.2014 20:39, Jeff Elkner wrote:
> Thanks a 10**6.  I'm all set.

Great :-) If you run into problems or have questions, please post
them here.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/

> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:
>> On 22.05.2014 17:16, Jeff Elkner wrote:
>>> My user name is: jelkner
>>
>> I setup permissions so that you can manage pages and the site
>> tree. You should be able to log into the Django CMS now:
>>
>> https://www.python.org/admin/
>>
>> Please let me know whether you need more permissions.
>>
>> Note that part of the site is managed via templates, which don't
>> live in the CMS, but in the repo. You'd need a different set of
>> permissions for those. It usually easiest to just send in pull
>> requests:
>>
>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>> Director
>> Python Software Foundation
>> http://www.python.org/psf/


From jeff at elkner.net  Thu May 22 20:39:44 2014
From: jeff at elkner.net (Jeff Elkner)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 14:39:44 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Suggestions for changes to the edu-sig list
In-Reply-To: <537E17BC.5030209@python.org>
References: <CAMDh89z3qsrF0h8RRSnzV=sq211EKnS4u9W_ETsPOhGPZPhspw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGMu_=obkifLKqAHuZAR7q1XXLN-LHwRzKxqRjVJBNgW8zDucA@mail.gmail.com>
 <51791CD5.3000309@python.org>
 <CAGMu_=pSSYGEdzXOryMSRXGEeanBJ-U-4yz5gY1y7mN9rLNwvg@mail.gmail.com>
 <537E147D.6060909@python.org>
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 <537E17BC.5030209@python.org>
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Thanks a 10**6.  I'm all set.

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:29 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:
> On 22.05.2014 17:16, Jeff Elkner wrote:
>> My user name is: jelkner
>
> I setup permissions so that you can manage pages and the site
> tree. You should be able to log into the Django CMS now:
>
> https://www.python.org/admin/
>
> Please let me know whether you need more permissions.
>
> Note that part of the site is managed via templates, which don't
> live in the CMS, but in the repo. You'd need a different set of
> permissions for those. It usually easiest to just send in pull
> requests:
>
> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> Director
> Python Software Foundation
> http://www.python.org/psf/

From mal at egenix.com  Sat May 31 22:49:58 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 22:49:58 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Vandalism/spam on wiki.python.org: changes to
	default permissions
Message-ID: <538A4076.9000105@egenix.com>

Hello,

in recent weeks, the Python Wiki has seen an increasing amount of
spam and vandalism:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/RecentChanges?max_days=60

Since the textchas we've been using apparently no longer serve their
intended purposes, I've now pulled the plug and disabled editing
permissions for new users:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage (see "Editing pages")

I've added a new user group called NewUsersGroup, which does
get editing rights, but we'll have to manage this manually and
new users who want to receive editing rights will have to write
to this mailing list to be added to the group.

I'm sorry for having to take this step, but the level of spam
and (more importantly) vandalism we've been getting is too high
to keep the wiki as open as it used to be.

Please regard the above step as emergency action. I'm more than
open to discussing alternative approaches to the situation, since
I don't like this step myself.

PS: I've only applied the new configuration to the Python wiki.
We may also have to take this step for the Jython wiki.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
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From paul at boddie.org.uk  Sat May 31 23:04:26 2014
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 23:04:26 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Vandalism/spam on wiki.python.org: changes to
	default permissions
In-Reply-To: <538A4076.9000105@egenix.com>
References: <538A4076.9000105@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <201405312304.26954.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Saturday 31. May 2014 22.49.58 M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> in recent weeks, the Python Wiki has seen an increasing amount of
> spam and vandalism:
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/RecentChanges?max_days=60
> 
> Since the textchas we've been using apparently no longer serve their
> intended purposes, I've now pulled the plug and disabled editing
> permissions for new users:
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage (see "Editing pages")
> 
> I've added a new user group called NewUsersGroup, which does
> get editing rights, but we'll have to manage this manually and
> new users who want to receive editing rights will have to write
> to this mailing list to be added to the group.

Thanks for doing this! I imagine that this will have very little impact on 
serious contributors. Certainly, anyone wanting to edit the pages will need an 
account, but they should be able to manage their credentials using OpenID and 
not have to remember another password for the site.

> I'm sorry for having to take this step, but the level of spam
> and (more importantly) vandalism we've been getting is too high
> to keep the wiki as open as it used to be.
> 
> Please regard the above step as emergency action. I'm more than
> open to discussing alternative approaches to the situation, since
> I don't like this step myself.
> 
> PS: I've only applied the new configuration to the Python wiki.
> We may also have to take this step for the Jython wiki.

I think I've made my position on this quite clear before. We can certainly 
implement measures similar to those used by other Web applications, but this 
requires an investment in the development of functionality that has been 
rather difficult to justify doing until now (speaking personally). For anyone 
motivated enough, just looking at Wordpress and MediaWiki extensions for anti-
spam should provide enough to go on, however.

Meanwhile, in contrast to many sites where highly restrictive policies prevail 
- indeed, how many sites have disabled editing entirely due to spam? - the 
available forms of registration and editing approval for MoinMoin are rather 
benign, in my opinion.

In any case, thanks for taking this step and also for cleaning up some of the 
recent spam. I for one appreciate this!

Paul

From mal at egenix.com  Sat May 31 23:21:03 2014
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 23:21:03 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Vandalism/spam on wiki.python.org: changes to
 default permissions
In-Reply-To: <201405312304.26954.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <538A4076.9000105@egenix.com>
 <201405312304.26954.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <538A47BF.1020606@egenix.com>

On 31.05.2014 23:04, Paul Boddie wrote:
> On Saturday 31. May 2014 22.49.58 M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> in recent weeks, the Python Wiki has seen an increasing amount of
>> spam and vandalism:
>>
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/RecentChanges?max_days=60
>>
>> Since the textchas we've been using apparently no longer serve their
>> intended purposes, I've now pulled the plug and disabled editing
>> permissions for new users:
>>
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage (see "Editing pages")
>>
>> I've added a new user group called NewUsersGroup, which does
>> get editing rights, but we'll have to manage this manually and
>> new users who want to receive editing rights will have to write
>> to this mailing list to be added to the group.
> 
> Thanks for doing this! I imagine that this will have very little impact on 
> serious contributors. Certainly, anyone wanting to edit the pages will need an 
> account, but they should be able to manage their credentials using OpenID and 
> not have to remember another password for the site.

If you have suggestions for improving the wording/styling
of the notice on the front page, please let me know.

After thinking about this some more, the user group name may
not be all that appropriate... not all users we'll want to
give editing permissions are new users.

My thinking was to move the users from the NewUsersGroup to
the TrustedEditorsGroup after a while and if they apply for
this.

>> I'm sorry for having to take this step, but the level of spam
>> and (more importantly) vandalism we've been getting is too high
>> to keep the wiki as open as it used to be.
>>
>> Please regard the above step as emergency action. I'm more than
>> open to discussing alternative approaches to the situation, since
>> I don't like this step myself.
>>
>> PS: I've only applied the new configuration to the Python wiki.
>> We may also have to take this step for the Jython wiki.
> 
> I think I've made my position on this quite clear before. We can certainly 
> implement measures similar to those used by other Web applications, but this 
> requires an investment in the development of functionality that has been 
> rather difficult to justify doing until now (speaking personally). For anyone 
> motivated enough, just looking at Wordpress and MediaWiki extensions for anti-
> spam should provide enough to go on, however.

I don't have any cycles to spare on this, sorry. I can add/enable
extensions on the wikis, but not go into full development mode.

> Meanwhile, in contrast to many sites where highly restrictive policies prevail 
> - indeed, how many sites have disabled editing entirely due to spam? - the 
> available forms of registration and editing approval for MoinMoin are rather 
> benign, in my opinion.
> 
> In any case, thanks for taking this step and also for cleaning up some of the 
> recent spam. I for one appreciate this!

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 31 2014)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2014-05-28: Released mxODBC.Connect 2.1.0 ...     http://egenix.com/go56
2014-07-02: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ...                 32 days to go

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
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From adam_burke_mail at yahoo.com  Fri May 30 00:44:01 2014
From: adam_burke_mail at yahoo.com (Adam)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 06:44:01 +0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Locking wiki pages for Jython
Message-ID: <9C473106-3599-47C1-8F21-0E951D1B3E6A@yahoo.com>

There are some prominent pages such as the front page and DocumentationAndEducation which are getting hit by spam often but not other edits. Is it possible to lock some pages for more restrictive editing, as on Wikipedia? And does anyone object if we do so for some key pages? People finding spam instead of the front page is a particularly bad one I think.

Adam