[pydotorg-www] Fwd: [PSF-Members] Why are we having people register at python.org

[Naomi Ceder]

Steve,  as a user, but not a maintainer, of the site you have my
support (please fix the job board).

+1 FWIW

Naomi

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Most of you will be aware of the recent thread on the psf-members list. I
> copy the latest message from a board member and will intersperse my remarks
> therein.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com>
> *Subject: **Re: [PSF-Members] Why are we having people register at
> python.org <http://python.org>*
> *Date: *January 4, 2015 2:08:18 PM GMT
> *To: *"Steven D'Aprano" <steve at pearwood.info>
> *Cc: *PSF Members <psf-members at python.org>
>
> On 4 January 2015 at 21:13, Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 09:36:58PM -0600, VanL wrote:
> If the bottleneck is us, then what are we doing about it? I know the
> board members are busy, and may have other priorities, and that's okay,
> but can't they delegate?
>
>
> That's the brutally hard part of the problem: defining the ground
> rules for a delegation and wrangling the subsequent process of
> selecting a suitable candidate is almost certainly going to involve
> even more work than talking to PE/RevSys every week regarding the
> board's current priorities.
>
> I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that my extensive PSF experience
> and my reasonable level of web technology knowledge would make me a
> suitable candidate.
>
> However, I realised during this discussion that it doesn't actually
> have to be a board member that writes such a document. I'd been taking
> it for granted that that was necessary, but I now believe that
> conclusion to be incorrect: someone else could write a website project
> management proposal based on the RFP and community feedback, and
> submit it to the board as a grant proposal.
>
> True. This email seeks to persuade you to support a proposal to the PSF
> board for onward active management of the python.org web site only
> embedding that notion. The infrastructure appears to be perfectly
> adequately managed, so the tasks facing us are (I would suggest) principally
>
> * progressing the task list on behalf of the board with the external
> contractors
> * suggesting new CMS functionality to allow much easier editing of
> specific content areas
> * recruiting and organizing content editors
> * curating content not handled by other editors, as a backup
>
> The parts of such a process that would specifically need board
> involvement are any final yes/no decision (as it would take a board
> resolution to put any proposal into formal effect), and any parts of
> the proposal that involve changing the communications arrangements
> with PE/RevSys (and hopefully they would be open to participating
> directly in any discussions of a community proposal on the
> pydotorg-www mailing list).
>
> Should the board wish to retain direct communication with the PE/Revsys
> team that would be OK, but I imagine they'd be just as happy to delegate
> that relationship to the "webmaster".
>
> I would have expected that the board would have started a discussion
> here to ask for a volunteer to take over management of the project and
> report to the board from time to time. There's plenty of things to
> discuss: what the manager is expected to do, make design decisions or
> just prod the web devs and ensure they keep moving? How often do they
> report to the board? Is there a stipend for the person doing this or is
> it an unpaid volunteer job?
>
>
> If such a role description could be developed through an open,
> collaborative process on the pydotorg-www mailing list, I believe that
> would be a potentially great outcome. As you say, quite a bit later
> than would be desirable, but still a positive way forward that could
> resolve some of the current challenges around site governance.
>
> So, where do we go from here? I'm prepared to commit effort (more than I'd
> be paid for, if experience is anything to go by) to see this move forward.
> Do I have any support?
>
> regards
>  Steve
> --
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>
>
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