[pydotorg-www] New PSF work group: Pydotorg WG

anatoly techtonik techtonik at gmail.com
Sun Jun 7 23:55:46 CEST 2015

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:52 PM, VanL <van.lindberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> No. I've been working on the site (picking up from the previous -redesign
> efforts) for a number of months. In addition to bugs or other issues with
> the site, one key problem was that we didn't have the facility to reasonably
> invite others to participate.

Or don't have the desire? Github + Blog works quite well for thousands of
open source projects out there. PyCon sprints is also a good place.

> We are close to getting that all set. We are migrating all the work to
> public repositories, we created a distributed ownership model for content,

What ownership? IIRC PSF owns everything on *.python.org sites.

> we opened up a public bug tracker (which I believe has been announced here,
> among other places), and soon we will have a public workflow that will allow
> everyone to work on the site together.

I raised all these question few years ago. What happened since then?
Who is making decisions? Why the change all of the sudden?

> It takes planning and support to create a distributed system that isn't
> frustrating... so I am working on that so we can transition to a model that
> invites open participation.

Too abstract to me. If PSF can sponsor integration of PyPI with OpenID
Connect - that would be a first step to distributed, non-frustrating system.
Also, if you really want to make a workflow - don't try to make it and impose
as some universal law - just remove the obstacles and people will make
it themselves.

> In the mean time, this hasn't been closed. We have had three or four public
> working sessions, the most recent being at PyCon. We had a number of people
> participate, and it was in those sessions that we made the plan so that we
> could move to broader community ownership of parts of the site and figured
> out what would need to be done to support that kind of collaboration.

Well, it can clarify the workflow if you can provide example of how "community
ownership" decided to go with Apache 2 license, why the stack as it is now. It
will also help if before acting you could run a poll to gather some
data about site
or at least give some concise report on the analysis.

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