From mal at egenix.com  Mon Nov  2 05:50:32 2015
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 11:50:32 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] EditorsGroup Add
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On 31.10.2015 00:55, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
> 	I used that Lost Password page link
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass
> 
> but 15 minutes later I haven't gotten a recover password email. I think
> my registration failed.
> 
> 	I gave the Recover Password form on that page
> Username: MatthewRubenstein
> Email: Matthew.Rubenstein at blue-green-group.com
> 
> which returned the EditorsGroup page
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup
> 
> with a notification "If this account exists an email was sent.
> Clear message" and MatthewRubenstein at the end of the list.

I checked the wiki user database: there is no entry with
your user details, so you will have to create the account
again:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=newaccount

> On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 00:32 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 30.10.2015 23:25, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Matthew Rubenstein
>>> <matthew.rubenstein at blue-green-group.com> wrote:
>>>>         Thanks. I didn't receive an email challenge/confirmation message at
>>>> registration, so maybe that's the bottleneck on the reservation.
>>>
>>> Hmm. It's possible something's running slow or something. I'll let M-A
>>> or someone answer that. If you've attempted an edit and still can't,
>>> it'll need to be someone-not-me who fixes that.
>>
>> If you still can't log in by tomorrow, let me know. You can try
>> a password recovery to see whether email comes through:
>>
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass
>>
>> The Mailman emails sometimes get blocked by spam filters
>> and we recently had a change in the IP address of mail.python.org
>> which may still be causing a bit of trouble.
>>
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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From mal at egenix.com  Tue Nov  3 05:48:16 2015
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 11:48:16 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations
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Anyone feel like helping with this ?

On 29.10.2015 10:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Some implementations which are not listed on the page:
> 
> Alternative CPython:
> 
> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/
> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/
> Cython - http://cython.org/
> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/
> 
> Python for embedded devices:
> 
> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/
> 
> Python in the browser:
> 
> Brython - http://www.brython.info/
> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/
> 
> Python in the cloud:
> 
> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python
> Wakari - https://wakari.io/
> 
> Python for education:
> 
> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/
> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/
> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/
> 
> More alternative CPython packagings:
> 
> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython
> 
> 
> The wiki page lists a few more:
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
> 
> 
> 
> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations
>>> page:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842
>>>
>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations,
>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as
>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc.
>>
>> Forgot the link to the page:
>>
>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/
>>
>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants
>>> to the page.
>>>
>>> Would someone like to help with this ?
>>>
>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form:
>>>
>>> * `PyPy <http://pypy.org/>`_ (A `fast <http://speed.pypy.org>`_ python
>>>   implementation with a JIT compiler)
>>>
>>> for each variant.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>
> 

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From rosuav at gmail.com  Tue Nov  3 06:09:30 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 22:09:30 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:48 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> Anyone feel like helping with this ?

I don't know most of those Pythons, so aside from mechanically lifting
content from the wiki, there's not a lot I can do.

ChrisA

From mal at egenix.com  Wed Nov  4 08:24:31 2015
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 14:24:31 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations
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On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote:
> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of
> require c python to run.  They are tooling at best.

I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus
manages extensions for more easily compiling functions
to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython.
Both support use of Python C extensions.

It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them
as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python"
implementations :-)

> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page:
>>
>> Alternative CPython:
>>
>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/
>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/
>> Cython - http://cython.org/
>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/
>>
>> Python for embedded devices:
>>
>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/
> 
> This list is incomplete.

Could you provide pointers to missing items ?

>> Python in the browser:
>>
>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/
>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/
> 
> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front page
> of python.org)

You mean PythonAnywhere ?

I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed
alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned
on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/.

>> Python in the cloud:
>>
>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python
>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/
>>
>> Python for education:
>>
>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/
>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/
>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/
>>
>> More alternative CPython packagings:
>>
>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython
>>
>>
>> The wiki page lists a few more:
>>
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations
>>>> page:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842
>>>>
>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations,
>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as
>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc.
>>> Forgot the link to the page:
>>>
>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/
>>>
>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants
>>>> to the page.
>>>>
>>>> Would someone like to help with this ?
>>>>
>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form:
>>>>
>>>> * `PyPy <http://pypy.org/>`_ (A `fast <http://speed.pypy.org>`_ python
>>>>    implementation with a JIT compiler)
>>>>
>>>> for each variant.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www

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From tritium-list at sdamon.com  Wed Nov  4 18:14:14 2015
From: tritium-list at sdamon.com (Alexander Walters)
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:14:14 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations
In-Reply-To: <563A070F.7060207@egenix.com>
References: <5631DEF3.5070904@egenix.com> <5631DF21.1080807@egenix.com>
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To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the 
language... because you cannot run anything with them.  Can you really 
call it a language runtime if you cant run anything with them?  they are 
tooling.  It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an 
implementation when they cant do anything with them alone.

On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote:
>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of
>> require c python to run.  They are tooling at best.
> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus
> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions
> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython.
> Both support use of Python C extensions.
>
> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them
> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python"
> implementations :-)
>
>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page:
>>>
>>> Alternative CPython:
>>>
>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/
>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/
>>> Cython - http://cython.org/
>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/
>>>
>>> Python for embedded devices:
>>>
>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/
>> This list is incomplete.
> Could you provide pointers to missing items ?
>
>>> Python in the browser:
>>>
>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/
>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/
>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front page
>> of python.org)
> You mean PythonAnywhere ?
>
> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed
> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned
> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/.
>
>>> Python in the cloud:
>>>
>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python
>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/
>>>
>>> Python for education:
>>>
>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/
>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/
>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/
>>>
>>> More alternative CPython packagings:
>>>
>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython
>>>
>>>
>>> The wiki page lists a few more:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations
>>>>> page:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842
>>>>>
>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations,
>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as
>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc.
>>>> Forgot the link to the page:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/
>>>>
>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants
>>>>> to the page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ?
>>>>>
>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form:
>>>>>
>>>>> * `PyPy <http://pypy.org/>`_ (A `fast <http://speed.pypy.org>`_ python
>>>>>     implementation with a JIT compiler)
>>>>>
>>>>> for each variant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www


From mal at egenix.com  Thu Nov  5 04:49:58 2015
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 10:49:58 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations
In-Reply-To: <563A9146.1040601@sdamon.com>
References: <5631DEF3.5070904@egenix.com> <5631DF21.1080807@egenix.com>
 <5631E501.1000101@egenix.com> <56353145.1020503@sdamon.com>
 <563A070F.7060207@egenix.com> <563A9146.1040601@sdamon.com>
Message-ID: <563B2646.6070605@egenix.com>

On 05.11.2015 00:14, Alexander Walters wrote:
> To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the language... because you
> cannot run anything with them.  Can you really call it a language runtime if you cant run anything
> with them?  they are tooling.  It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an
> implementation when they cant do anything with them alone.

Both are compilers and they do allow you to create Python
applications, just like gcc does for C (together with the
libc runtime), so I don't really understand why you would
not call them implementations of the language. They both
take Python code on input :-)

I guess putting them under a "Python Compiler" heading
would satisfy your request.

> On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote:
>>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of
>>> require c python to run.  They are tooling at best.
>> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus
>> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions
>> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython.
>> Both support use of Python C extensions.
>>
>> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them
>> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python"
>> implementations :-)
>>
>>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page:
>>>>
>>>> Alternative CPython:
>>>>
>>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/
>>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/
>>>> Cython - http://cython.org/
>>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/
>>>>
>>>> Python for embedded devices:
>>>>
>>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/
>>> This list is incomplete.
>> Could you provide pointers to missing items ?
>>
>>>> Python in the browser:
>>>>
>>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/
>>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/
>>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front page
>>> of python.org)
>> You mean PythonAnywhere ?
>>
>> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed
>> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned
>> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/.
>>
>>>> Python in the cloud:
>>>>
>>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python
>>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/
>>>>
>>>> Python for education:
>>>>
>>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/
>>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/
>>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/
>>>>
>>>> More alternative CPython packagings:
>>>>
>>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The wiki page lists a few more:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations
>>>>>> page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations,
>>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as
>>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc.
>>>>> Forgot the link to the page:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants
>>>>>> to the page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * `PyPy <http://pypy.org/>`_ (A `fast <http://speed.pypy.org>`_ python
>>>>>>     implementation with a JIT compiler)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for each variant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www

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From jim at elephantventures.com  Thu Nov  5 11:59:59 2015
From: jim at elephantventures.com (Jim Rath)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 10:59:59 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] editing wiki.python.org
Message-ID: <E9E873DE-E7B4-473B-A404-84AC7FBC5E80@elephantventures.com>

Hi y'all.  I'm a new user (ElephantJim) on wiki.python.org.

I wanted to suggest some edits for https://wiki.python.org/moin/HandlingExceptions.  Specifically, I thought it'd be a good idea to change the syntax of the "except" clauses from old python 2 style to the newer python 2/3 style.  For example, change "except Exception, e:" to "except Exception as e:".

Could you add me to the EditorsGroup?

Thanks,
Jim Rath
jim at elephantventures.com


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From rosuav at gmail.com  Thu Nov  5 17:08:05 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:08:05 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] editing wiki.python.org
In-Reply-To: <E9E873DE-E7B4-473B-A404-84AC7FBC5E80@elephantventures.com>
References: <E9E873DE-E7B4-473B-A404-84AC7FBC5E80@elephantventures.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmrHiEk=sGDwHtAnf-zqU2okG+GPKQb3GoHbkLWU_eSHuQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:59 AM, Jim Rath <jim at elephantventures.com> wrote:
> Hi y'all.  I'm a new user (ElephantJim) on wiki.python.org.
>
> I wanted to suggest some edits for https://wiki.python.org/moin/HandlingExceptions.  Specifically, I thought it'd be a good idea to change the syntax of the "except" clauses from old python 2 style to the newer python 2/3 style.  For example, change "except Exception, e:" to "except Exception as e:".
>
> Could you add me to the EditorsGroup?

Yeah, that sounds like something well worth doing! Thanks for
noticing. I've made you an editor, so you should be able to make the
changes.

ChrisA

From mal at egenix.com  Thu Nov  5 18:33:15 2015
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 00:33:15 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations
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On 06.11.2015 00:08, Alexander Walters wrote:
> They don't implement....anything.  Guido implemented it.

Actually, it's Guido and the Python core dev team who implemented it
and the cast of thousands who help by sending in patches.

> but it is SUPREMELY unhelpful to list them as stand alone third party implementations of python,
> SINCE THEY ACTUALLY REQUIRE ANOTHER PYTHON TO RUN!  You CANNOT run a Nuitka module without libpython
> being installed.  'standalone mode' simply links against an already existent cpython.
> 
> So while technically It MIGHT be considered another python (It isnt.  Its a CPython tool), it helps
> no one to tell them its another implementation of the language.

I'm not sure why you are getting all upset. There's nothing
to be dogmatic about.

All of the implementations I listed below under "Alternative CPython"
use Python C code and the Python stdlib in one way or another -
that's why they are listed as *alternative* CPython. Unlike the already
listed repackaged Python versions, these implementations apply
changes to CPython or extend it in various way (by e.g. adding a JIT
compiler, adding additional syntax or compiling part of your
Python program to Python C extensions).

Now, if you want to continue the discussion, please provide constructive
input. Otherwise, we can agree to disagree and stop the thread
right here.

> On 11/5/2015 04:49, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 05.11.2015 00:14, Alexander Walters wrote:
>>> To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the language... because you
>>> cannot run anything with them.  Can you really call it a language runtime if you cant run anything
>>> with them?  they are tooling.  It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an
>>> implementation when they cant do anything with them alone.
>> Both are compilers and they do allow you to create Python
>> applications, just like gcc does for C (together with the
>> libc runtime), so I don't really understand why you would
>> not call them implementations of the language. They both
>> take Python code on input :-)
>>
>> I guess putting them under a "Python Compiler" heading
>> would satisfy your request.
>>
>>> On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote:
>>>>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of
>>>>> require c python to run.  They are tooling at best.
>>>> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus
>>>> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions
>>>> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython.
>>>> Both support use of Python C extensions.
>>>>
>>>> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them
>>>> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python"
>>>> implementations :-)
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alternative CPython:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/
>>>>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/
>>>>>> Cython - http://cython.org/
>>>>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Python for embedded devices:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/
>>>>> This list is incomplete.
>>>> Could you provide pointers to missing items ?
>>>>
>>>>>> Python in the browser:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/
>>>>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/
>>>>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front
>>>>> page
>>>>> of python.org)
>>>> You mean PythonAnywhere ?
>>>>
>>>> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed
>>>> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned
>>>> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/.
>>>>
>>>>>> Python in the cloud:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python
>>>>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Python for education:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/
>>>>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/
>>>>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More alternative CPython packagings:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The wiki page lists a few more:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations
>>>>>>>> page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations,
>>>>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as
>>>>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc.
>>>>>>> Forgot the link to the page:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants
>>>>>>>> to the page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * `PyPy <http://pypy.org/>`_ (A `fast <http://speed.pypy.org>`_ python
>>>>>>>>      implementation with a JIT compiler)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for each variant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>>>>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www

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From tritium-list at sdamon.com  Thu Nov  5 18:08:00 2015
From: tritium-list at sdamon.com (Alexander Walters)
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 18:08:00 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations
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They don't implement....anything.  Guido implemented it.

but it is SUPREMELY unhelpful to list them as stand alone third party 
implementations of python, SINCE THEY ACTUALLY REQUIRE ANOTHER PYTHON TO 
RUN!  You CANNOT run a Nuitka module without libpython being installed.  
'standalone mode' simply links against an already existent cpython.

So while technically It MIGHT be considered another python (It isnt.  
Its a CPython tool), it helps no one to tell them its another 
implementation of the language.


On 11/5/2015 04:49, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 05.11.2015 00:14, Alexander Walters wrote:
>> To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the language... because you
>> cannot run anything with them.  Can you really call it a language runtime if you cant run anything
>> with them?  they are tooling.  It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an
>> implementation when they cant do anything with them alone.
> Both are compilers and they do allow you to create Python
> applications, just like gcc does for C (together with the
> libc runtime), so I don't really understand why you would
> not call them implementations of the language. They both
> take Python code on input :-)
>
> I guess putting them under a "Python Compiler" heading
> would satisfy your request.
>
>> On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote:
>>>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of
>>>> require c python to run.  They are tooling at best.
>>> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus
>>> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions
>>> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython.
>>> Both support use of Python C extensions.
>>>
>>> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them
>>> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python"
>>> implementations :-)
>>>
>>>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page:
>>>>>
>>>>> Alternative CPython:
>>>>>
>>>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/
>>>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/
>>>>> Cython - http://cython.org/
>>>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> Python for embedded devices:
>>>>>
>>>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/
>>>> This list is incomplete.
>>> Could you provide pointers to missing items ?
>>>
>>>>> Python in the browser:
>>>>>
>>>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/
>>>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/
>>>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front page
>>>> of python.org)
>>> You mean PythonAnywhere ?
>>>
>>> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed
>>> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned
>>> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/.
>>>
>>>>> Python in the cloud:
>>>>>
>>>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python
>>>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/
>>>>>
>>>>> Python for education:
>>>>>
>>>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/
>>>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/
>>>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> More alternative CPython packagings:
>>>>>
>>>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The wiki page lists a few more:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations
>>>>>>> page:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations,
>>>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as
>>>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc.
>>>>>> Forgot the link to the page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants
>>>>>>> to the page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * `PyPy <http://pypy.org/>`_ (A `fast <http://speed.pypy.org>`_ python
>>>>>>>      implementation with a JIT compiler)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for each variant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>>>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www


From tritium-list at sdamon.com  Thu Nov  5 18:40:41 2015
From: tritium-list at sdamon.com (Alexander Walters)
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 18:40:41 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations
In-Reply-To: <563BE73B.9020603@egenix.com>
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Stackless is an alternative C python.  It actually ships all of python.  
Stackless is a fork.  './path/to/stackless/pythonthon mymodule.py' runs 
the module.

Cython ships none of python.  Cython requires that you already have a 
python installed, and uses python as a library.  './path/to/cython 
mymodule.py' does not run the module.

Nuitka ships none of python.  Nuitka requires that you already have a 
python installed, and uses python as a library.  './path/to/nuitka 
mymodule.py' does not run the module.

How helpful for people who dont already know what it is to tell them its 
another implementation of cpython, when you cannot even run any python 
code with them?  That you need another implementation already installed 
to do anything with them, and the output product of both of these tools 
is binaries linked.... NOT to the project, but to the other cypython you 
had to install?

Technically, these two might have a tokenizer and lexer, and to an 
extent a parser, though IIRC, they use cpython's ASTs (nuitka does at 
least.), but what they output isnt useful without another python 
installed.  they implement NOTHING of python.  Including them helps NO 
ONE who didnt already know about them.

On 11/5/2015 18:33, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 06.11.2015 00:08, Alexander Walters wrote:
>> They don't implement....anything.  Guido implemented it.
> Actually, it's Guido and the Python core dev team who implemented it
> and the cast of thousands who help by sending in patches.
>
>> but it is SUPREMELY unhelpful to list them as stand alone third party implementations of python,
>> SINCE THEY ACTUALLY REQUIRE ANOTHER PYTHON TO RUN!  You CANNOT run a Nuitka module without libpython
>> being installed.  'standalone mode' simply links against an already existent cpython.
>>
>> So while technically It MIGHT be considered another python (It isnt.  Its a CPython tool), it helps
>> no one to tell them its another implementation of the language.
> I'm not sure why you are getting all upset. There's nothing
> to be dogmatic about.
>
> All of the implementations I listed below under "Alternative CPython"
> use Python C code and the Python stdlib in one way or another -
> that's why they are listed as *alternative* CPython. Unlike the already
> listed repackaged Python versions, these implementations apply
> changes to CPython or extend it in various way (by e.g. adding a JIT
> compiler, adding additional syntax or compiling part of your
> Python program to Python C extensions).
>
> Now, if you want to continue the discussion, please provide constructive
> input. Otherwise, we can agree to disagree and stop the thread
> right here.
>
>> On 11/5/2015 04:49, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> On 05.11.2015 00:14, Alexander Walters wrote:
>>>> To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the language... because you
>>>> cannot run anything with them.  Can you really call it a language runtime if you cant run anything
>>>> with them?  they are tooling.  It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an
>>>> implementation when they cant do anything with them alone.
>>> Both are compilers and they do allow you to create Python
>>> applications, just like gcc does for C (together with the
>>> libc runtime), so I don't really understand why you would
>>> not call them implementations of the language. They both
>>> take Python code on input :-)
>>>
>>> I guess putting them under a "Python Compiler" heading
>>> would satisfy your request.
>>>
>>>> On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote:
>>>>>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of
>>>>>> require c python to run.  They are tooling at best.
>>>>> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus
>>>>> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions
>>>>> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython.
>>>>> Both support use of Python C extensions.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them
>>>>> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python"
>>>>> implementations :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternative CPython:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/
>>>>>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/
>>>>>>> Cython - http://cython.org/
>>>>>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Python for embedded devices:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/
>>>>>> This list is incomplete.
>>>>> Could you provide pointers to missing items ?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Python in the browser:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/
>>>>>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/
>>>>>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front
>>>>>> page
>>>>>> of python.org)
>>>>> You mean PythonAnywhere ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed
>>>>> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned
>>>>> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Python in the cloud:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python
>>>>>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Python for education:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/
>>>>>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/
>>>>>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More alternative CPython packagings:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The wiki page lists a few more:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations
>>>>>>>>> page:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations,
>>>>>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as
>>>>>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc.
>>>>>>>> Forgot the link to the page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants
>>>>>>>>> to the page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * `PyPy <http://pypy.org/>`_ (A `fast <http://speed.pypy.org>`_ python
>>>>>>>>>       implementation with a JIT compiler)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for each variant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>>>>>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www


From webgovernor at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 22:26:00 2015
From: webgovernor at gmail.com (Aaron Meier)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 20:26:00 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Intended edits to Web Frameworks page.
Message-ID: <CAFa0BEeKQXCAq-gG21CzSpqRNmU4Uii7w_SEJfFKekeoTHyBeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I'd like to add the Falcon and Pycnic web frameworks.

Falcon (http://falconframework.org) is a fairly fast (Cython optimizations)
and cleanly written micro-framework. It strikes a nice middle ground
between Flask and raw-wsgi.

Pycnic (http://pycnic.nullism.com) is a wsgi framework optimized for JSON
APIs and provides routing/cookies/HTTP. I am not familiar with another JSON
API only web framework at this time.

Both frameworks are open source and (as far as I understand) do not rely on
Paste or a similar foundation -- they appear unique to their respective
markets. They also both support Python 2.7 and 3.

*Disclaimer:* I've written much of the code base for Pycnic and so have a
vested interest; I'm not in any way associated with Falcon. I genuinely
think it would be a service to add these to the very large list of
frameworks as it is currently the most complete page available.

Thank you for your consideration,

Aaron
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 23:23:04 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 15:23:04 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Intended edits to Web Frameworks page.
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On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Aaron Meier <webgovernor at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to add the Falcon and Pycnic web frameworks.

Sure! What's your user name?

ChrisA

From webgovernor at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 23:25:48 2015
From: webgovernor at gmail.com (Aaron Meier)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 21:25:48 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Intended edits to Web Frameworks page.
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Awesome, thank you very much!

It's "AaronMeier"

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Aaron Meier <webgovernor at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'd like to add the Falcon and Pycnic web frameworks.
>
> Sure! What's your user name?
>
> ChrisA
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From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 15:26:21 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Intended edits to Web Frameworks page.
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On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Aaron Meier <webgovernor at gmail.com> wrote:
> Awesome, thank you very much!
>
> It's "AaronMeier"

Done! Have at it.

ChrisA

From arnisig at teqhire.com  Mon Nov  9 13:02:36 2015
From: arnisig at teqhire.com (=?UTF-8?B?w4FybmkgU3RlaW5ncsOtbXVyIFNpZ3Vyw7Bzc29u?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 18:02:36 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Suggestion
Message-ID: <CADZ+4eA6kXf8BxQ5e9Huj9uMS=4Pr=CfyC3wLkZdHMk2rjfkkw@mail.gmail.com>

Instead of listing in alphabetical order, it would be more useful to
see the list on https://www.python.org/community/workshops/ as a
time-series.  Broken down by season would also be good.

Thank you.

From h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com  Mon Nov  9 15:34:04 2015
From: h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com (Hartmut Goebel)
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2015 21:34:04 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities
Message-ID: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com>

Hi,

I want to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities:
- Remove MyMillan Installer, which is completely outdated
- Update PyInstallers entry.
- Table headings "latest version" "latest update date" need to be switched.

If anybody else would change this: go ahead :-)

-- 
Regards
Hartmut Goebel

| Hartmut Goebel          | h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com               |
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 17:30:51 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:30:51 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities
In-Reply-To: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com>
References: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com>
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Hartmut Goebel
<h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com> wrote:
> I want to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities:
> - Remove MyMillan Installer, which is completely outdated
> - Update PyInstallers entry.
> - Table headings "latest version" "latest update date" need to be switched.
>
> If anybody else would change this: go ahead :-)

Hi Hartmut! I'd be happy to grant you access to make these changes;
what's your wiki user name?

ChrisA

From rosuav at gmail.com  Mon Nov  9 17:35:01 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:35:01 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Suggestion
In-Reply-To: <CADZ+4eA6kXf8BxQ5e9Huj9uMS=4Pr=CfyC3wLkZdHMk2rjfkkw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:02 AM, ?rni Steingr?mur Sigur?sson
<arnisig at teqhire.com> wrote:
> Instead of listing in alphabetical order, it would be more useful to
> see the list on https://www.python.org/community/workshops/ as a
> time-series.  Broken down by season would also be good.

Would you like to make that change? I can give you editing access if
you like. Just create a user and I'll make you into an editor.

ChrisA

From mal at egenix.com  Mon Nov  9 17:42:39 2015
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 23:42:39 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities
In-Reply-To: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com>
References: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com>
Message-ID: <5641215F.7000004@egenix.com>

On 09.11.2015 21:34, Hartmut Goebel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities:
> - Remove MyMillan Installer, which is completely outdated

Rather than removing the entry, I'd move it to an historic section.

The McMillan installer was one of the first such installer
creators we had for Python.

> - Update PyInstallers entry.
> - Table headings "latest version" "latest update date" need to be switched.
> 
> If anybody else would change this: go ahead :-)
> 

-- 
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eGenix.com

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From h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com  Tue Nov 10 05:00:17 2015
From: h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com (Hartmut Goebel)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:00:17 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities
In-Reply-To: <5641215F.7000004@egenix.com>
References: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com>
 <5641215F.7000004@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <5641C031.7000503@crazy-compilers.com>

Am 09.11.2015 um 23:42 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg:
> Rather than removing the entry, I'd move it to an historic section.
>
> The McMillan installer was one of the first such installer
> creators we had for Python.

You are right - and the link point to webarchive, so the content is
still relevant.

-- 
Regards
Hartmut Goebel

| Hartmut Goebel          | h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com               |
| www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |


From h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com  Tue Nov 10 04:59:32 2015
From: h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com (Hartmut Goebel)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:59:32 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities
In-Reply-To: <CAPTjJmpdt0n_GW9fSPWjtbKFuc6Ydz6wpt=VX8YechCTWpjkcA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com>
 <CAPTjJmpdt0n_GW9fSPWjtbKFuc6Ydz6wpt=VX8YechCTWpjkcA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5641C004.9010100@crazy-compilers.com>

Hi Chris,

>
>> I want to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities:
>> - Remove MyMillan Installer, which is completely outdated
>> - Update PyInstallers entry.
>> - Table headings "latest version" "latest update date" need to be switched.
>>
>> If anybody else would change this: go ahead :-)
> Hi Hartmut! I'd be happy to grant you access to make these changes;
> what's your wiki user name?

HartmutGoebel  - sorry for not supplying it the first time.


-- 
Regards
Hartmut Goebel

| Hartmut Goebel          | h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com               |
| www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |


From rosuav at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 05:10:05 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 21:10:05 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities
In-Reply-To: <5641C004.9010100@crazy-compilers.com>
References: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com>
 <CAPTjJmpdt0n_GW9fSPWjtbKFuc6Ydz6wpt=VX8YechCTWpjkcA@mail.gmail.com>
 <5641C004.9010100@crazy-compilers.com>
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Hartmut Goebel
<h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
>>
>>> I want to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities:
>>> - Remove MyMillan Installer, which is completely outdated
>>> - Update PyInstallers entry.
>>> - Table headings "latest version" "latest update date" need to be switched.
>>>
>>> If anybody else would change this: go ahead :-)
>> Hi Hartmut! I'd be happy to grant you access to make these changes;
>> what's your wiki user name?
>
> HartmutGoebel  - sorry for not supplying it the first time.

Thanks! The wiki is yours to improve. :)

ChrisA

From ginnungagap at free.fr  Tue Nov 10 06:45:13 2015
From: ginnungagap at free.fr (Ginnungagap)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:45:13 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Editing
In-Reply-To: <1075001686.312247027.1447155771247.JavaMail.root@zimbra1-e1.priv.proxad.net>
Message-ID: <1800271741.312253084.1447155913814.JavaMail.root@zimbra1-e1.priv.proxad.net>

Hello,

My username on the wiki is : Jgoutin

I want edit the wiki for add a page on Windows compilers (How intall and use Windows C++ compilers with Python for compile modules installed from pip or Cython files).

Thanks.

Regards.

From rosuav at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 06:52:59 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 22:52:59 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Editing
In-Reply-To: <1800271741.312253084.1447155913814.JavaMail.root@zimbra1-e1.priv.proxad.net>
References: <1075001686.312247027.1447155771247.JavaMail.root@zimbra1-e1.priv.proxad.net>
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Ginnungagap <ginnungagap at free.fr> wrote:
> I want edit the wiki for add a page on Windows compilers (How intall and use Windows C++ compilers with Python for compile modules installed from pip or Cython files).

There isn't one already? It seems such an obvious thing.

I've made you an editor - go ahead and create that page!

ChrisA

From dbutler at fusionbox.com  Tue Nov 10 16:35:28 2015
From: dbutler at fusionbox.com (Drew Butler)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:35:28 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Adding a CMS to the List
Message-ID: <CAPgTiL4rHnip6EvjHHJGj2b4NfuwGkedu7-S6fK0Zz14_e_HXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

I was looking at your list of content management systems
<https://wiki.python.org/moin/ContentManagementSystems>, and I was hoping
to add one. The developers at my company created Widgy <https://wid.gy/>,
an open source drag-and-drop django cms. Is there any way you could add
this to the list you have?

Thanks!

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From igor.dejanovic at gmail.com  Wed Nov 11 05:49:19 2015
From: igor.dejanovic at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Igor_Dejanovi=c4=87?=)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:49:19 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki pages edit
Message-ID: <56431D2F.40706@gmail.com>

Hello,

I've just created an account on Python Wiki - IgorDejanovic.
I would like to add two tools I am working on to the list on 
LanguageParsing page.

Please, could you add me to the EditorsGroup?

Best regards,
Igor Dejanovi?


From rosuav at gmail.com  Wed Nov 11 05:53:41 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:53:41 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki pages edit
In-Reply-To: <56431D2F.40706@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Igor Dejanovi?
<igor.dejanovic at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've just created an account on Python Wiki - IgorDejanovic.
> I would like to add two tools I am working on to the list on LanguageParsing
> page.
>
> Please, could you add me to the EditorsGroup?
>

Sure! Done.

ChrisA

From matthew.rubenstein at blue-green-group.com  Thu Nov 12 12:36:09 2015
From: matthew.rubenstein at blue-green-group.com (Matthew Rubenstein)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 12:36:09 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] EditorsGroup Add
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	I tried 3x this afternoon to register and finally succeeded. There's
something wrong with the site's registration system. Apart from the
basic fix, it should send a confirmation email upon successful
registration. FWIW I edited the article.

	I reregistered MatthewRubenstein with a different password but the same
email address Matthew.Rubenstein at blue-green-group.com . I tried to login
immediately; the login page took over a minute to return a reply, which
didn't log me in. No response email. I tried requesting a lost password,
but received no email in response (the response webpage took over a
minute to return). I tried again submitting the same credentials. This
time the registration page timed out. So I tried again a few minutes
later. The response page took over a minute to return, and said "This
user name already belongs to somebody else." So I tried to login and
succeeded.


On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 11:50 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 31.10.2015 00:55, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
> > 	I used that Lost Password page link
> > https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass
> > 
> > but 15 minutes later I haven't gotten a recover password email. I think
> > my registration failed.
> > 
> > 	I gave the Recover Password form on that page
> > Username: MatthewRubenstein
> > Email: Matthew.Rubenstein at blue-green-group.com
> > 
> > which returned the EditorsGroup page
> > https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup
> > 
> > with a notification "If this account exists an email was sent.
> > Clear message" and MatthewRubenstein at the end of the list.
> 
> I checked the wiki user database: there is no entry with
> your user details, so you will have to create the account
> again:
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=newaccount
> 
> > On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 00:32 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> >> On 30.10.2015 23:25, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Matthew Rubenstein
> >>> <matthew.rubenstein at blue-green-group.com> wrote:
> >>>>         Thanks. I didn't receive an email challenge/confirmation message at
> >>>> registration, so maybe that's the bottleneck on the reservation.
> >>>
> >>> Hmm. It's possible something's running slow or something. I'll let M-A
> >>> or someone answer that. If you've attempted an edit and still can't,
> >>> it'll need to be someone-not-me who fixes that.
> >>
> >> If you still can't log in by tomorrow, let me know. You can try
> >> a password recovery to see whether email comes through:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass
> >>
> >> The Mailman emails sometimes get blocked by spam filters
> >> and we recently had a change in the IP address of mail.python.org
> >> which may still be causing a bit of trouble.
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Matthew.Rubenstein at Blue-Green-Group.com
> > 718-233-5097
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > pydotorg-www mailing list
> > pydotorg-www at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
> > 
> 



--
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718-233-5097




From mal at egenix.com  Fri Nov 13 08:17:20 2015
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 14:17:20 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] EditorsGroup Add
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Message-ID: <5645E2E0.3030206@egenix.com>

Hi Matthew,

sorry for the trouble you've had.

Some background:

The wiki is running behind a load balancer on a VM which is
somewhat under powered for the task. I've already tried several
things to make it run a little faster, but the response time has
not improved.

I believe the huge number of user accounts to be causing the
slow response times when editing pages or interacting with parts
of the system which touch user accounts.

I'd love to clear out unused user accounts, but have so far not
found a good way to do this, which also makes sure that valid ones
are not removed. Despite the textchas we have in place, we are
still getting lots of registrations for user accounts each day,
e.g. on 2015-11-09 we had 65 new accounts created.

The wiki currently has over 65000 user accounts and I suspect
the moin software to touch every single one when doing
page edits (possibly to process or check for event triggers).

For such operations the VM takes too long to respond and the
load balancer then times out even though the operation may
well have succeeded.

-- 
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On 12.11.2015 18:36, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
> 	I tried 3x this afternoon to register and finally succeeded. There's
> something wrong with the site's registration system. Apart from the
> basic fix, it should send a confirmation email upon successful
> registration. FWIW I edited the article.
> 
> 	I reregistered MatthewRubenstein with a different password but the same
> email address Matthew.Rubenstein at blue-green-group.com . I tried to login
> immediately; the login page took over a minute to return a reply, which
> didn't log me in. No response email. I tried requesting a lost password,
> but received no email in response (the response webpage took over a
> minute to return). I tried again submitting the same credentials. This
> time the registration page timed out. So I tried again a few minutes
> later. The response page took over a minute to return, and said "This
> user name already belongs to somebody else." So I tried to login and
> succeeded.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 11:50 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 31.10.2015 00:55, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
>>> 	I used that Lost Password page link
>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass
>>>
>>> but 15 minutes later I haven't gotten a recover password email. I think
>>> my registration failed.
>>>
>>> 	I gave the Recover Password form on that page
>>> Username: MatthewRubenstein
>>> Email: Matthew.Rubenstein at blue-green-group.com
>>>
>>> which returned the EditorsGroup page
>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup
>>>
>>> with a notification "If this account exists an email was sent.
>>> Clear message" and MatthewRubenstein at the end of the list.
>>
>> I checked the wiki user database: there is no entry with
>> your user details, so you will have to create the account
>> again:
>>
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=newaccount
>>
>>> On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 00:32 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>> On 30.10.2015 23:25, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Matthew Rubenstein
>>>>> <matthew.rubenstein at blue-green-group.com> wrote:
>>>>>>         Thanks. I didn't receive an email challenge/confirmation message at
>>>>>> registration, so maybe that's the bottleneck on the reservation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. It's possible something's running slow or something. I'll let M-A
>>>>> or someone answer that. If you've attempted an edit and still can't,
>>>>> it'll need to be someone-not-me who fixes that.
>>>>
>>>> If you still can't log in by tomorrow, let me know. You can try
>>>> a password recovery to see whether email comes through:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass
>>>>
>>>> The Mailman emails sometimes get blocked by spam filters
>>>> and we recently had a change in the IP address of mail.python.org
>>>> which may still be causing a bit of trouble.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthew.Rubenstein at Blue-Green-Group.com
>>> 718-233-5097
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> pydotorg-www mailing list
>>> pydotorg-www at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Matthew.Rubenstein at Blue-Green-Group.com
> 718-233-5097
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
> 

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From dang at SPOKESMAN.com  Thu Nov 19 14:30:35 2015
From: dang at SPOKESMAN.com (Dan Gayle)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:30:35 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add Python Spokane user group
Message-ID: <B5F72312-839F-4D45-A4E9-8D2880AE803F@spokesman.com>

Hello,

My name is Dan Gayle, I'm the organizer of the local Python user group. I'd love to have us added to the wiki.

http://www.meetup.com/Spokane-Python-Meetup/
http://www.twitter.com/python-spokane

Thanks!

Dan Gayle
Newsroom Developer
The Spokesman-Review

From rosuav at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 14:47:23 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 06:47:23 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add Python Spokane user group
In-Reply-To: <B5F72312-839F-4D45-A4E9-8D2880AE803F@spokesman.com>
References: <B5F72312-839F-4D45-A4E9-8D2880AE803F@spokesman.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmoFL97Qc=9ggFnNtQ1ngoHKbde_Nx2FGjerB0vur=WoHg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:30 AM, Dan Gayle <dang at spokesman.com> wrote:
> My name is Dan Gayle, I'm the organizer of the local Python user group. I'd love to have us added to the wiki.
>
> http://www.meetup.com/Spokane-Python-Meetup/
> http://www.twitter.com/python-spokane

Sure! What's your Wiki user name?

ChrisA

From rosuav at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 14:52:49 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 06:52:49 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add Python Spokane user group
In-Reply-To: <etPan.564e2808.6e32a90e.dcd@dang.spokesman.com>
References: <B5F72312-839F-4D45-A4E9-8D2880AE803F@spokesman.com>
 <CAPTjJmoFL97Qc=9ggFnNtQ1ngoHKbde_Nx2FGjerB0vur=WoHg@mail.gmail.com>
 <etPan.564e2808.6e32a90e.dcd@dang.spokesman.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmr7J49x72YaZ4jusszSww85+-aQUX8SiS8em_Xkva5pVA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Dan Gayle <dang at spokesman.com> wrote:
> DanGayle

Cool. You're an editor now! Go ahead and add your group.

ChrisA

From stefan.schindler at posteo.ch  Thu Nov 19 17:36:18 2015
From: stefan.schindler at posteo.ch (Stefan Schindler)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 23:36:18 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Swiss Python Summit 2016
Message-ID: <564E4EE2.2080306@posteo.ch>

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I found this conference missing your Page: https://www.python-summit.ch/

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From rosuav at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 18:01:01 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:01:01 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Swiss Python Summit 2016
In-Reply-To: <564E4EE2.2080306@posteo.ch>
References: <564E4EE2.2080306@posteo.ch>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmqhe427VSqgNfVXpNQX3jFZqBshX5sUwGBX6qQ1UN-fKg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Stefan Schindler
<stefan.schindler at posteo.ch> wrote:
> I found this conference missing your Page: https://www.python-summit.ch/

Would you like to add it? I'm sure you know more about it than I do -
which isn't hard, given that all I know about it is what I learned
from your post. If you create a user on the wiki, I can make you an
editor, and then you'll be able to add the link and have some useful
descriptive text too.

ChrisA

From vul3yo6 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 20 00:44:29 2015
From: vul3yo6 at hotmail.com (Tseng ChuanMing)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:44:29 +0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] have an Python Conference that want to add to list
Message-ID: <BAY174-W38980DAB741ACC3431CB9B31A0@phx.gbl>

Hi Python Conference,


I am a Volunteer who come from Taiwan, and i have an Python Conference that want to add to Conferences list.

The Conferences list url is https://www.python.org/community/workshops/
and PyCon Taiwan url isURL: <a class="reference external" href="http://tw.pycon.org/">PyCon Taiwan</a>

Thanks for your help.

                                                   2015-11-20

**************************************


         ???? ( Tseng  Chuan - Ming ) 
 
Mobile : 0958-121177
Mail : vul3yo6 at hotmail.com

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From gavincik at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 21 00:30:33 2015
From: gavincik at yahoo.com (Roy Davis)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 06:30:33 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] need more customers?
Message-ID: <a7fc0d50fad99fe343976db7efb24d7e@elicheesecake.com>

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From nick at tengda-online.com  Sun Nov 22 03:30:08 2015
From: nick at tengda-online.com (TENGDA INTERNATIONAL)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:30:08 +0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] =?utf-8?q?BASS_TUNER_SETS?=
Message-ID: <20151122163009.1100.99125@tengda-online.com>

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From sevkeifert at gmail.com  Sun Nov 22 17:24:01 2015
From: sevkeifert at gmail.com (Kevin Seifert)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:24:01 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] new python fluidsynth gui
Message-ID: <CANJC9a00WOJRFDzYcDJ6s+PmJiLvuqwnJcg90Psz9ti5RrfqvQ@mail.gmail.com>

I was going to mention, I wrote a new graphical user interface for
fluidsynth (in Python).  It's an alternative to Qsynth.


http://sevkeifert.blogspot.com/2015/11/simple-graphical-interface-for.html

or, the direct link to the git hub repo:

    https://github.com/sevkeifert/fluidsynth-gui

It uses fluidsynth's socket api, so it should work reliably across all
platforms.   For me, qsynth just crashes (I'm using xubuntu 14.04
currently), and is difficult for me to use with multiple sound fonts.

If you want, it may be added to this list of music-related software

    https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonInMusic


Thanks,
Kevin Seifert
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From godson at lintelindia.com  Sun Nov 22 18:21:33 2015
From: godson at lintelindia.com (Godson)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 04:51:33 +0530
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Unable to edit wiki page
Message-ID: <000001d1257c$8910b140$9b3213c0$@lintelindia.com>

Hi,

I have just signed up on python wiki but, unable to edit pages. As per the
instruction found on front page, I am writing in. Please, add me account
"GodsonGera" to EditorsGroup. 

My blog is already added in planet python. I have been working with python
for over a decade. I want to edit the PythonConsulting page to add my firm
Lintel Technologies.  Also, want to add my libraries StarPy and PySWITCH to
python wiki. 

--
Thanks & Regards,
Godson Gera
http://lintelindia.com


Lintel Technologies Pvt Ltd.
Level 7 Maximus towers 2A,
Mindspace,
Hi-Tech City,
Hyderabad



From rosuav at gmail.com  Sun Nov 22 18:22:32 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:22:32 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] new python fluidsynth gui
In-Reply-To: <CANJC9a00WOJRFDzYcDJ6s+PmJiLvuqwnJcg90Psz9ti5RrfqvQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANJC9a00WOJRFDzYcDJ6s+PmJiLvuqwnJcg90Psz9ti5RrfqvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmoEEVJLixnJXnJkt_JRNA5k0d=A_7qMqbSUkTk+Vk1=oQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Kevin Seifert <sevkeifert at gmail.com> wrote:
> If you want, it may be added to this list of music-related software

If you want, I can make you an editor, and then you'll be able to add it!

ChrisA

From rosuav at gmail.com  Sun Nov 22 18:29:27 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:29:27 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Unable to edit wiki page
In-Reply-To: <000001d1257c$8910b140$9b3213c0$@lintelindia.com>
References: <000001d1257c$8910b140$9b3213c0$@lintelindia.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmorS+MEk5CjsUjDvnxkZXjPMwru2Z2OuLNXEVjAG0OQ8g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Godson <godson at lintelindia.com> wrote:
> I have just signed up on python wiki but, unable to edit pages. As per the
> instruction found on front page, I am writing in. Please, add me account
> "GodsonGera" to EditorsGroup.

Sure! Added.

ChrisA

From godson at lintelindia.com  Sun Nov 22 18:32:50 2015
From: godson at lintelindia.com (Godson)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 05:02:50 +0530
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Unable to edit wiki page
In-Reply-To: <CAPTjJmorS+MEk5CjsUjDvnxkZXjPMwru2Z2OuLNXEVjAG0OQ8g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d1257c$8910b140$9b3213c0$@lintelindia.com>
 <CAPTjJmorS+MEk5CjsUjDvnxkZXjPMwru2Z2OuLNXEVjAG0OQ8g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000101d1257e$1c210c90$546325b0$@lintelindia.com>

Hi Chris,

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Angelico [mailto:rosuav at gmail.com] 
Sent: 23 November 2015 04:59
To: Godson
Cc: pydotorg-www at python.org
Subject: Re: [pydotorg-www] Unable to edit wiki page

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Godson <godson at lintelindia.com> wrote:
> I have just signed up on python wiki but, unable to edit pages. As per 
> the instruction found on front page, I am writing in. Please, add me 
> account "GodsonGera" to EditorsGroup.

Sure! Added.

ChrisA


From rosuav at gmail.com  Sun Nov 22 18:46:27 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:46:27 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] new python fluidsynth gui
In-Reply-To: <CANJC9a3S4Jt3w=eezgwREbYk4gxuEPufCaBC99=Uc1J6puwfxg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANJC9a00WOJRFDzYcDJ6s+PmJiLvuqwnJcg90Psz9ti5RrfqvQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPTjJmoEEVJLixnJXnJkt_JRNA5k0d=A_7qMqbSUkTk+Vk1=oQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANJC9a3S4Jt3w=eezgwREbYk4gxuEPufCaBC99=Uc1J6puwfxg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmpEGSEr10ujqeUrBetSG-9gGBGLyms2zq2+vtw+ToYQtQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Kevin Seifert <sevkeifert at gmail.com> wrote:
> That sounds good.   My launchpad account uses the same email address:
> sevkeifert at gmail.com
>

You'll need to make an account on the wiki, and tell us your user name.

ChrisA

From rosuav at gmail.com  Sun Nov 22 19:07:43 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:07:43 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] new python fluidsynth gui
In-Reply-To: <CANJC9a1JERm9bHCqqQ6cZ9Dp=mLF+S_ibfZ97H+J=_XKV54RaA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANJC9a00WOJRFDzYcDJ6s+PmJiLvuqwnJcg90Psz9ti5RrfqvQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPTjJmoEEVJLixnJXnJkt_JRNA5k0d=A_7qMqbSUkTk+Vk1=oQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANJC9a3S4Jt3w=eezgwREbYk4gxuEPufCaBC99=Uc1J6puwfxg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPTjJmpEGSEr10ujqeUrBetSG-9gGBGLyms2zq2+vtw+ToYQtQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANJC9a1JERm9bHCqqQ6cZ9Dp=mLF+S_ibfZ97H+J=_XKV54RaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmosH2RK1qhvh4huULVt5Q9fRtoChY-VN+yjk3_r8i=u5g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Kevin Seifert <sevkeifert at gmail.com> wrote:
> I created a new account.  It is:  KevinSeifert
>
> thanks!

No problem, you're now an editor!

ChrisA

From pydanny at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 17:10:40 2015
From: pydanny at gmail.com (Daniel Greenfeld)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:10:40 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Requesting edit access to
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining
Message-ID: <CAOoSJ_rsUVtAD3zXK1GO+Qhyui2ZEKX1rv4dKRg6DF2goHzxZw@mail.gmail.com>

May I have edit rights to this page?

Regards,

Daniel Roy Greenfeld

-- 
'Knowledge is Power'
Daniel Roy Greenfeld
Co-author of Two Scoops of Django
pydanny.com | twoscoopspress.com | twoscoopsacademy.com
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 17:12:26 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:12:26 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Requesting edit access to
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining
In-Reply-To: <CAOoSJ_rsUVtAD3zXK1GO+Qhyui2ZEKX1rv4dKRg6DF2goHzxZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOoSJ_rsUVtAD3zXK1GO+Qhyui2ZEKX1rv4dKRg6DF2goHzxZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmozDoV_eTNFzOb_cNuyHaEm86PFY8c3gwXDRDo8bwHk+g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Daniel Greenfeld <pydanny at gmail.com> wrote:
> May I have edit rights to this page?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel Roy Greenfeld

Sure! What's your Wiki user name? If you don't have one, you'll need
to sign up first.

ChrisA

From pydanny at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 17:15:20 2015
From: pydanny at gmail.com (Daniel Greenfeld)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:15:20 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Requesting edit access to
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining
In-Reply-To: <CAPTjJmozDoV_eTNFzOb_cNuyHaEm86PFY8c3gwXDRDo8bwHk+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOoSJ_rsUVtAD3zXK1GO+Qhyui2ZEKX1rv4dKRg6DF2goHzxZw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPTjJmozDoV_eTNFzOb_cNuyHaEm86PFY8c3gwXDRDo8bwHk+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOoSJ_pNrPd+MJtVNpcR3SaYZAOL8tNVozet8-+WHU6DvqJUBw@mail.gmail.com>

My Wiki user name is 'pydanny'. Been a member for years.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Daniel Greenfeld <pydanny at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > May I have edit rights to this page?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Daniel Roy Greenfeld
>
> Sure! What's your Wiki user name? If you don't have one, you'll need
> to sign up first.
>
> ChrisA
>



-- 
'Knowledge is Power'
Daniel Roy Greenfeld
Co-author of Two Scoops of Django
pydanny.com | twoscoopspress.com | twoscoopsacademy.com
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 17:20:42 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:20:42 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Requesting edit access to
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining
In-Reply-To: <CAOoSJ_pNrPd+MJtVNpcR3SaYZAOL8tNVozet8-+WHU6DvqJUBw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOoSJ_rsUVtAD3zXK1GO+Qhyui2ZEKX1rv4dKRg6DF2goHzxZw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPTjJmozDoV_eTNFzOb_cNuyHaEm86PFY8c3gwXDRDo8bwHk+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOoSJ_pNrPd+MJtVNpcR3SaYZAOL8tNVozet8-+WHU6DvqJUBw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmr+dwCW+7tMmzwfODZEdU-R4JWPxecGVp4Hwv3z_ZsTbA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Daniel Greenfeld <pydanny at gmail.com> wrote:
> My Wiki user name is 'pydanny'. Been a member for years.

Apologies for not recognizing you; I'm new here, so I treat everyone
the same way. You're now an editor - have at it!

ChrisA

From pydanny at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 17:21:22 2015
From: pydanny at gmail.com (Daniel Greenfeld)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:21:22 -0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Requesting edit access to
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining
In-Reply-To: <CAPTjJmr+dwCW+7tMmzwfODZEdU-R4JWPxecGVp4Hwv3z_ZsTbA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOoSJ_rsUVtAD3zXK1GO+Qhyui2ZEKX1rv4dKRg6DF2goHzxZw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPTjJmozDoV_eTNFzOb_cNuyHaEm86PFY8c3gwXDRDo8bwHk+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOoSJ_pNrPd+MJtVNpcR3SaYZAOL8tNVozet8-+WHU6DvqJUBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPTjJmr+dwCW+7tMmzwfODZEdU-R4JWPxecGVp4Hwv3z_ZsTbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOoSJ_p7w6RVf0LixGiLRGTtKsH+4d=Dr7oSPS0gmu19DsSthQ@mail.gmail.com>

No need to apologize! I'm pretty silent on the mailing lists.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Daniel Greenfeld <pydanny at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > My Wiki user name is 'pydanny'. Been a member for years.
>
> Apologies for not recognizing you; I'm new here, so I treat everyone
> the same way. You're now an editor - have at it!
>
> ChrisA
>



-- 
'Knowledge is Power'
Daniel Roy Greenfeld
Co-author of Two Scoops of Django
pydanny.com | twoscoopspress.com | twoscoopsacademy.com
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From mattdmo at pigimal.com  Tue Nov 24 08:30:45 2015
From: mattdmo at pigimal.com (MattDMo)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 08:30:45 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] request to be added to EditorsGroup
Message-ID: <78312FB4-E94D-4ADC-A956-04516B0413F3@pigimal.com>

Hi,
My username is MattDMo, and I'd like to be added to the EditorsGroup on wiki.python.org <http://wiki.python.org/>. There are probably a number of pages I could contribute to, but currently I'd like to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors#Online_Editors <https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors#Online_Editors> to include such services as wakari.io and pythonanywhere.com <http://pythonanywhere.com/>. 

Thanks!
Matt Morrison

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From rosuav at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 08:35:22 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 00:35:22 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] request to be added to EditorsGroup
In-Reply-To: <78312FB4-E94D-4ADC-A956-04516B0413F3@pigimal.com>
References: <78312FB4-E94D-4ADC-A956-04516B0413F3@pigimal.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmr4qcZur+tH1cxF4WkkYXL=Ma1cZ5bxYRW-86XBJ0zQPw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:30 AM, MattDMo <mattdmo at pigimal.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> My username is MattDMo, and I'd like to be added to the EditorsGroup on
> wiki.python.org. There are probably a number of pages I could contribute to,
> but currently I'd like to update
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors#Online_Editors to include such
> services as wakari.io and pythonanywhere.com.

Sounds great! Your contributions will be most welcome. Have at it!

ChrisA

From vul3yo6 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 24 08:57:41 2015
From: vul3yo6 at hotmail.com (Tseng ChuanMing)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 21:57:41 +0800
Subject: [pydotorg-www] have an Python Conference that want to add to list
In-Reply-To: <BAY174-W38980DAB741ACC3431CB9B31A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY174-W38980DAB741ACC3431CB9B31A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY174-W243DEDBB55EC4A0032DC0B3060@phx.gbl>

Hi Python Conference,


I am a Volunteer who come from Taiwan, and i have an Python Conference that want to add to Conferences list.
I already had send email last week,  but still no see the url add to web page.
The Conferences list web page is https://www.python.org/community/workshops/

and PyCon Taiwan url isURL: <a href="http://tw.pycon.org/">PyCon Taiwan</a>

Can you add the Taiwan Python Conference url to web page?
Thanks for your help.
                                                   2015-01-24

**************************************


         ???? ( Tseng  Chuan - Ming ) 
 
Mobile : 0958-121177
Mail : vul3yo6 at hotmail.com

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From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Nov 26 15:53:24 2015
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 14:53:24 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] job board under "attack"
Message-ID: <CADmzSShyt7414KnJ0kORp+FUgMTPBrmkKbPFPv00EDDL8Ne8VQ@mail.gmail.com>

This is copy #11 or so of the same posing every few seconds.

No clue what is up, but can someone disable something before we have a few
1000 of these?


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From: <jobs at python.org>
Date: Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:51 PM
Subject: [Jobs] Job Submitted for Approval: 3, Smith
To: jobs at python.org


The following job was submitted for approval:

Title:    3
Company:  Smith

Posted:   26 November 2015
Category: Administrator
Contact:  3 <netsparker at example.com>

Description:


To view and review:

URL: https://python.org/jobs/883/
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From mal at python.org  Fri Nov 27 03:33:21 2015
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 09:33:21 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: [Jobs] Job Submitted for Approval: 3,
 */netsparker(0x005D0D); /*
In-Reply-To: <20151126205441.31008.83244@pydotorg-prod.iad1.psf.io>
References: <20151126205441.31008.83244@pydotorg-prod.iad1.psf.io>
Message-ID: <56581551.5060106@python.org>

It looks like someone ran a script yesterday to inspect
the job board for vulnerabilities.

There were more than a hundred entries of the form below.

Someone apparently already cleared out those entries from the
database: thanks for that !

I'll open a ticket for this, so that we can look for ways
to help prevent this in the future.

Cheers,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/
http://www.malemburg.com/



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [Jobs] Job Submitted for Approval: 3, */netsparker(0x005D0D);/*
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:54:41 -0000
From: jobs at python.org
To: jobs at python.org

The following job was submitted for approval:

Title:    3
Company:  */netsparker(0x005D0D);/*

Posted:   26 November 2015
Category: Administrator
Contact:  3 <netsparker at example.com>

Description:


To view and review:

URL: https://python.org/jobs/917/
_______________________________________________
Jobs mailing list
Jobs at python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs


From mal at python.org  Fri Nov 27 03:49:12 2015
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 09:49:12 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Jobs] Fwd: Job Submitted for Approval: 3,
 */netsparker(0x005D0D); /*
In-Reply-To: <56581551.5060106@python.org>
References: <20151126205441.31008.83244@pydotorg-prod.iad1.psf.io>
 <56581551.5060106@python.org>
Message-ID: <56581908.8030104@python.org>

On 27.11.2015 09:33, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> It looks like someone ran a script yesterday to inspect
> the job board for vulnerabilities.
> 
> There were more than a hundred entries of the form below.
> 
> Someone apparently already cleared out those entries from the
> database: thanks for that !
> 
> I'll open a ticket for this, so that we can look for ways
> to help prevent this in the future.

Done: https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/852

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/
http://www.malemburg.com/

From ccdesales at gmail.com  Sat Nov 28 07:13:24 2015
From: ccdesales at gmail.com (Cesar Cardenas Desales)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 13:13:24 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Swiss Python Summit 2016
Message-ID: <CAC95NGpn7ZB0Ae_ac7CL8-ObCjvdmMrVhqjtmH=YiT23HYVKcg@mail.gmail.com>

Please add the following event:

 * name of the event: Swiss Python Summit 2016
 * type of event: Conference
 * focus on Python: All of Python
 * approximate number of attendees: 120
 * location (incl. country): Rapperswil, Switzerland
 * dates/times/recurrence (incl. time zone): February 5th, 2016 / 9:00 to
18:00 CET / yearly
 * URL: http://www.python-summit.ch/
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From: noreplay at webnsg.com (IT Services)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:04:02 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Do you need IT services ?
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Sun Nov 29 04:26:12 2015
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:12 +1100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] https://www.python.org/downloads/ offline
In-Reply-To: <CAB_tDZyWubAdN8H-2J5YXU5L+r4Zeyeenkvgv1Ve2e246D4Oog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB_tDZyWubAdN8H-2J5YXU5L+r4Zeyeenkvgv1Ve2e246D4Oog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmpyR6vfPyv54fu0zV53YQ5gULSiyBE_hm_=3LXTgaJm+w@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Pablo Lucena <plucena24 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anyone else getting 503 errors when accessing the downloads page of
> python.org?
>
>
> --
> *Pablo Lucena*
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Yes, the whole site seems to be down. Cc'ing the www list, although
someone probably knows already.

ChrisA