From mal at egenix.com Mon Nov 2 05:50:32 2015 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 11:50:32 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] EditorsGroup Add In-Reply-To: <1446249316.5396.12.camel@blue-green-group.com> References: <1446235127.23939.133.camel@blue-green-group.com> <1446243033.23939.149.camel@blue-green-group.com> <1446243768.4619.6.camel@blue-green-group.com> <5633FE09.3070400@egenix.com> <1446249316.5396.12.camel@blue-green-group.com> Message-ID: <56373FF8.1050203@egenix.com> On 31.10.2015 00:55, Matthew Rubenstein wrote: > I used that Lost Password page link > https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass > > but 15 minutes later I haven't gotten a recover password email. I think > my registration failed. > > I gave the Recover Password form on that page > Username: MatthewRubenstein > Email: Matthew.Rubenstein at blue-green-group.com > > which returned the EditorsGroup page > https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup > > with a notification "If this account exists an email was sent. > Clear message" and MatthewRubenstein at the end of the list. I checked the wiki user database: there is no entry with your user details, so you will have to create the account again: https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=newaccount > On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 00:32 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> On 30.10.2015 23:25, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Matthew Rubenstein >>> wrote: >>>> Thanks. I didn't receive an email challenge/confirmation message at >>>> registration, so maybe that's the bottleneck on the reservation. >>> >>> Hmm. It's possible something's running slow or something. I'll let M-A >>> or someone answer that. If you've attempted an edit and still can't, >>> it'll need to be someone-not-me who fixes that. >> >> If you still can't log in by tomorrow, let me know. You can try >> a password recovery to see whether email comes through: >> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass >> >> The Mailman emails sometimes get blocked by spam filters >> and we recently had a change in the IP address of mail.python.org >> which may still be causing a bit of trouble. >> > > > > -- > Matthew.Rubenstein at Blue-Green-Group.com > 718-233-5097 > > > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Experts (#1, Nov 02 2015) >>> Python Projects, Coaching and Consulting ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> Python Database Interfaces ... http://products.egenix.com/ >>> Plone/Zope Database Interfaces ... http://zope.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2015-10-23: Released mxODBC Connect 2.1.5 ... http://egenix.com/go85 ::: We implement business ideas - efficiently in both time and costs ::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ http://www.malemburg.com/ From mal at egenix.com Tue Nov 3 05:48:16 2015 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 11:48:16 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations In-Reply-To: <5631E501.1000101@egenix.com> References: <5631DEF3.5070904@egenix.com> <5631DF21.1080807@egenix.com> <5631E501.1000101@egenix.com> Message-ID: <563890F0.9080309@egenix.com> Anyone feel like helping with this ? On 29.10.2015 10:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Some implementations which are not listed on the page: > > Alternative CPython: > > HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/ > Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/ > Cython - http://cython.org/ > Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/ > > Python for embedded devices: > > MicroPython - https://micropython.org/ > > Python in the browser: > > Brython - http://www.brython.info/ > Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/ > > Python in the cloud: > > Trinket - https://trinket.io/python > Wakari - https://wakari.io/ > > Python for education: > > Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/ > Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/ > Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/ > > More alternative CPython packagings: > > StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython > > > The wiki page lists a few more: > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations > > > > On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations >>> page: >>> >>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842 >>> >>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations, >>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as >>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc. >> >> Forgot the link to the page: >> >> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/ >> >>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants >>> to the page. >>> >>> Would someone like to help with this ? >>> >>> We'd need ReST entries of the form: >>> >>> * `PyPy `_ (A `fast `_ python >>> implementation with a JIT compiler) >>> >>> for each variant. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >> > -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Experts (#1, Nov 03 2015) >>> Python Projects, Coaching and Consulting ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> Python Database Interfaces ... http://products.egenix.com/ >>> Plone/Zope Database Interfaces ... http://zope.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2015-10-23: Released mxODBC Connect 2.1.5 ... http://egenix.com/go85 ::: We implement business ideas - efficiently in both time and costs ::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ http://www.malemburg.com/ From rosuav at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 06:09:30 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 22:09:30 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations In-Reply-To: <563890F0.9080309@egenix.com> References: <5631DEF3.5070904@egenix.com> <5631DF21.1080807@egenix.com> <5631E501.1000101@egenix.com> <563890F0.9080309@egenix.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:48 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Anyone feel like helping with this ? I don't know most of those Pythons, so aside from mechanically lifting content from the wiki, there's not a lot I can do. ChrisA From mal at egenix.com Wed Nov 4 08:24:31 2015 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 14:24:31 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations In-Reply-To: <56353145.1020503@sdamon.com> References: <5631DEF3.5070904@egenix.com> <5631DF21.1080807@egenix.com> <5631E501.1000101@egenix.com> <56353145.1020503@sdamon.com> Message-ID: <563A070F.7060207@egenix.com> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote: > Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of > require c python to run. They are tooling at best. I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus manages extensions for more easily compiling functions to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython. Both support use of Python C extensions. It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python" implementations :-) > On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> Some implementations which are not listed on the page: >> >> Alternative CPython: >> >> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/ >> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/ >> Cython - http://cython.org/ >> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/ >> >> Python for embedded devices: >> >> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/ > > This list is incomplete. Could you provide pointers to missing items ? >> Python in the browser: >> >> Brython - http://www.brython.info/ >> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/ > > as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front page > of python.org) You mean PythonAnywhere ? I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/. >> Python in the cloud: >> >> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python >> Wakari - https://wakari.io/ >> >> Python for education: >> >> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/ >> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/ >> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/ >> >> More alternative CPython packagings: >> >> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython >> >> >> The wiki page lists a few more: >> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations >> >> >> >> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations >>>> page: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842 >>>> >>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations, >>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as >>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc. >>> Forgot the link to the page: >>> >>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/ >>> >>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants >>>> to the page. >>>> >>>> Would someone like to help with this ? >>>> >>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form: >>>> >>>> * `PyPy `_ (A `fast `_ python >>>> implementation with a JIT compiler) >>>> >>>> for each variant. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Experts (#1, Nov 04 2015) >>> Python Projects, Coaching and Consulting ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> Python Database Interfaces ... http://products.egenix.com/ >>> Plone/Zope Database Interfaces ... http://zope.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2015-10-23: Released mxODBC Connect 2.1.5 ... http://egenix.com/go85 ::: We implement business ideas - efficiently in both time and costs ::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ http://www.malemburg.com/ From tritium-list at sdamon.com Wed Nov 4 18:14:14 2015 From: tritium-list at sdamon.com (Alexander Walters) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:14:14 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations In-Reply-To: <563A070F.7060207@egenix.com> References: <5631DEF3.5070904@egenix.com> <5631DF21.1080807@egenix.com> <5631E501.1000101@egenix.com> <56353145.1020503@sdamon.com> <563A070F.7060207@egenix.com> Message-ID: <563A9146.1040601@sdamon.com> To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the language... because you cannot run anything with them. Can you really call it a language runtime if you cant run anything with them? they are tooling. It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an implementation when they cant do anything with them alone. On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote: >> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of >> require c python to run. They are tooling at best. > I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus > manages extensions for more easily compiling functions > to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython. > Both support use of Python C extensions. > > It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them > as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python" > implementations :-) > >> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page: >>> >>> Alternative CPython: >>> >>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/ >>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/ >>> Cython - http://cython.org/ >>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/ >>> >>> Python for embedded devices: >>> >>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/ >> This list is incomplete. > Could you provide pointers to missing items ? > >>> Python in the browser: >>> >>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/ >>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/ >> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front page >> of python.org) > You mean PythonAnywhere ? > > I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed > alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned > on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/. > >>> Python in the cloud: >>> >>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python >>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/ >>> >>> Python for education: >>> >>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/ >>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/ >>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/ >>> >>> More alternative CPython packagings: >>> >>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython >>> >>> >>> The wiki page lists a few more: >>> >>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations >>> >>> >>> >>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations >>>>> page: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842 >>>>> >>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations, >>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as >>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc. >>>> Forgot the link to the page: >>>> >>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/ >>>> >>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants >>>>> to the page. >>>>> >>>>> Would someone like to help with this ? >>>>> >>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form: >>>>> >>>>> * `PyPy `_ (A `fast `_ python >>>>> implementation with a JIT compiler) >>>>> >>>>> for each variant. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> pydotorg-www mailing list >> pydotorg-www at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www From mal at egenix.com Thu Nov 5 04:49:58 2015 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 10:49:58 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations In-Reply-To: <563A9146.1040601@sdamon.com> References: <5631DEF3.5070904@egenix.com> <5631DF21.1080807@egenix.com> <5631E501.1000101@egenix.com> <56353145.1020503@sdamon.com> <563A070F.7060207@egenix.com> <563A9146.1040601@sdamon.com> Message-ID: <563B2646.6070605@egenix.com> On 05.11.2015 00:14, Alexander Walters wrote: > To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the language... because you > cannot run anything with them. Can you really call it a language runtime if you cant run anything > with them? they are tooling. It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an > implementation when they cant do anything with them alone. Both are compilers and they do allow you to create Python applications, just like gcc does for C (together with the libc runtime), so I don't really understand why you would not call them implementations of the language. They both take Python code on input :-) I guess putting them under a "Python Compiler" heading would satisfy your request. > On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote: >>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of >>> require c python to run. They are tooling at best. >> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus >> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions >> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython. >> Both support use of Python C extensions. >> >> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them >> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python" >> implementations :-) >> >>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page: >>>> >>>> Alternative CPython: >>>> >>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/ >>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/ >>>> Cython - http://cython.org/ >>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/ >>>> >>>> Python for embedded devices: >>>> >>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/ >>> This list is incomplete. >> Could you provide pointers to missing items ? >> >>>> Python in the browser: >>>> >>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/ >>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/ >>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front page >>> of python.org) >> You mean PythonAnywhere ? >> >> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed >> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned >> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/. >> >>>> Python in the cloud: >>>> >>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python >>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/ >>>> >>>> Python for education: >>>> >>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/ >>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/ >>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/ >>>> >>>> More alternative CPython packagings: >>>> >>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython >>>> >>>> >>>> The wiki page lists a few more: >>>> >>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations >>>>>> page: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842 >>>>>> >>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations, >>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as >>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc. >>>>> Forgot the link to the page: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/ >>>>> >>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants >>>>>> to the page. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ? >>>>>> >>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form: >>>>>> >>>>>> * `PyPy `_ (A `fast `_ python >>>>>> implementation with a JIT compiler) >>>>>> >>>>>> for each variant. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pydotorg-www mailing list >>> pydotorg-www at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Experts (#1, Nov 05 2015) >>> Python Projects, Coaching and Consulting ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> Python Database Interfaces ... http://products.egenix.com/ >>> Plone/Zope Database Interfaces ... http://zope.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2015-10-23: Released mxODBC Connect 2.1.5 ... http://egenix.com/go85 ::: We implement business ideas - efficiently in both time and costs ::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ http://www.malemburg.com/ From jim at elephantventures.com Thu Nov 5 11:59:59 2015 From: jim at elephantventures.com (Jim Rath) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 10:59:59 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] editing wiki.python.org Message-ID: Hi y'all. I'm a new user (ElephantJim) on wiki.python.org. I wanted to suggest some edits for https://wiki.python.org/moin/HandlingExceptions. Specifically, I thought it'd be a good idea to change the syntax of the "except" clauses from old python 2 style to the newer python 2/3 style. For example, change "except Exception, e:" to "except Exception as e:". Could you add me to the EditorsGroup? Thanks, Jim Rath jim at elephantventures.com From skoamslin at yahoo.com Thu Nov 5 08:01:47 2015 From: skoamslin at yahoo.com (Eliza) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 14:01:47 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Quick Question Message-ID: www.tinyurl.com/ntxqn6e Hi, I don't want to take up too much of your time but I'm looking for people to join me in a unique, 100% online based business opportunity that is totally FREE of charge to check out. If you are tired of working hard for pennies this might be what you've been looking for. You can actually start making money just by signing up. All you need to do is to register, check it out and decide if you want to join. Please use my link below to check out the videos about the business and get going and you can thank me later. www.tinyurl.com/ntxqn6e There's also this amazing competition that started right now on november 1st where you can get amazing prizes just by participating. They're also giving away iPad PRO's to 10 lucky people if you check out their facebook page for more information. DO NOT MISS this opportunity to check this out for FREE. NO strings attached. Yours truly, Eliza www.tinyurl.com/ntxqn6e From rosuav at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 17:08:05 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:08:05 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] editing wiki.python.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:59 AM, Jim Rath wrote: > Hi y'all. I'm a new user (ElephantJim) on wiki.python.org. > > I wanted to suggest some edits for https://wiki.python.org/moin/HandlingExceptions. Specifically, I thought it'd be a good idea to change the syntax of the "except" clauses from old python 2 style to the newer python 2/3 style. For example, change "except Exception, e:" to "except Exception as e:". > > Could you add me to the EditorsGroup? Yeah, that sounds like something well worth doing! Thanks for noticing. I've made you an editor, so you should be able to make the changes. ChrisA From mal at egenix.com Thu Nov 5 18:33:15 2015 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 00:33:15 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations In-Reply-To: <563BE150.2020703@sdamon.com> References: <5631DEF3.5070904@egenix.com> <5631DF21.1080807@egenix.com> <5631E501.1000101@egenix.com> <56353145.1020503@sdamon.com> <563A070F.7060207@egenix.com> <563A9146.1040601@sdamon.com> <563B2646.6070605@egenix.com> <563BE150.2020703@sdamon.com> Message-ID: <563BE73B.9020603@egenix.com> On 06.11.2015 00:08, Alexander Walters wrote: > They don't implement....anything. Guido implemented it. Actually, it's Guido and the Python core dev team who implemented it and the cast of thousands who help by sending in patches. > but it is SUPREMELY unhelpful to list them as stand alone third party implementations of python, > SINCE THEY ACTUALLY REQUIRE ANOTHER PYTHON TO RUN! You CANNOT run a Nuitka module without libpython > being installed. 'standalone mode' simply links against an already existent cpython. > > So while technically It MIGHT be considered another python (It isnt. Its a CPython tool), it helps > no one to tell them its another implementation of the language. I'm not sure why you are getting all upset. There's nothing to be dogmatic about. All of the implementations I listed below under "Alternative CPython" use Python C code and the Python stdlib in one way or another - that's why they are listed as *alternative* CPython. Unlike the already listed repackaged Python versions, these implementations apply changes to CPython or extend it in various way (by e.g. adding a JIT compiler, adding additional syntax or compiling part of your Python program to Python C extensions). Now, if you want to continue the discussion, please provide constructive input. Otherwise, we can agree to disagree and stop the thread right here. > On 11/5/2015 04:49, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> On 05.11.2015 00:14, Alexander Walters wrote: >>> To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the language... because you >>> cannot run anything with them. Can you really call it a language runtime if you cant run anything >>> with them? they are tooling. It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an >>> implementation when they cant do anything with them alone. >> Both are compilers and they do allow you to create Python >> applications, just like gcc does for C (together with the >> libc runtime), so I don't really understand why you would >> not call them implementations of the language. They both >> take Python code on input :-) >> >> I guess putting them under a "Python Compiler" heading >> would satisfy your request. >> >>> On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote: >>>>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of >>>>> require c python to run. They are tooling at best. >>>> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus >>>> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions >>>> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython. >>>> Both support use of Python C extensions. >>>> >>>> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them >>>> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python" >>>> implementations :-) >>>> >>>>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page: >>>>>> >>>>>> Alternative CPython: >>>>>> >>>>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/ >>>>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/ >>>>>> Cython - http://cython.org/ >>>>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Python for embedded devices: >>>>>> >>>>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/ >>>>> This list is incomplete. >>>> Could you provide pointers to missing items ? >>>> >>>>>> Python in the browser: >>>>>> >>>>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/ >>>>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/ >>>>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front >>>>> page >>>>> of python.org) >>>> You mean PythonAnywhere ? >>>> >>>> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed >>>> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned >>>> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/. >>>> >>>>>> Python in the cloud: >>>>>> >>>>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python >>>>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Python for education: >>>>>> >>>>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/ >>>>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/ >>>>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/ >>>>>> >>>>>> More alternative CPython packagings: >>>>>> >>>>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The wiki page lists a few more: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations >>>>>>>> page: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations, >>>>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as >>>>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc. >>>>>>> Forgot the link to the page: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants >>>>>>>> to the page. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * `PyPy `_ (A `fast `_ python >>>>>>>> implementation with a JIT compiler) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for each variant. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> pydotorg-www mailing list >>>>> pydotorg-www at python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Experts (#1, Nov 06 2015) >>> Python Projects, Coaching and Consulting ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> Python Database Interfaces ... http://products.egenix.com/ >>> Plone/Zope Database Interfaces ... http://zope.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2015-10-23: Released mxODBC Connect 2.1.5 ... http://egenix.com/go85 ::: We implement business ideas - efficiently in both time and costs ::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ http://www.malemburg.com/ From tritium-list at sdamon.com Thu Nov 5 18:08:00 2015 From: tritium-list at sdamon.com (Alexander Walters) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 18:08:00 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations In-Reply-To: <563B2646.6070605@egenix.com> References: <5631DEF3.5070904@egenix.com> <5631DF21.1080807@egenix.com> <5631E501.1000101@egenix.com> <56353145.1020503@sdamon.com> <563A070F.7060207@egenix.com> <563A9146.1040601@sdamon.com> <563B2646.6070605@egenix.com> Message-ID: <563BE150.2020703@sdamon.com> They don't implement....anything. Guido implemented it. but it is SUPREMELY unhelpful to list them as stand alone third party implementations of python, SINCE THEY ACTUALLY REQUIRE ANOTHER PYTHON TO RUN! You CANNOT run a Nuitka module without libpython being installed. 'standalone mode' simply links against an already existent cpython. So while technically It MIGHT be considered another python (It isnt. Its a CPython tool), it helps no one to tell them its another implementation of the language. On 11/5/2015 04:49, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 05.11.2015 00:14, Alexander Walters wrote: >> To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the language... because you >> cannot run anything with them. Can you really call it a language runtime if you cant run anything >> with them? they are tooling. It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an >> implementation when they cant do anything with them alone. > Both are compilers and they do allow you to create Python > applications, just like gcc does for C (together with the > libc runtime), so I don't really understand why you would > not call them implementations of the language. They both > take Python code on input :-) > > I guess putting them under a "Python Compiler" heading > would satisfy your request. > >> On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote: >>>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of >>>> require c python to run. They are tooling at best. >>> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus >>> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions >>> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython. >>> Both support use of Python C extensions. >>> >>> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them >>> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python" >>> implementations :-) >>> >>>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page: >>>>> >>>>> Alternative CPython: >>>>> >>>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/ >>>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/ >>>>> Cython - http://cython.org/ >>>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/ >>>>> >>>>> Python for embedded devices: >>>>> >>>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/ >>>> This list is incomplete. >>> Could you provide pointers to missing items ? >>> >>>>> Python in the browser: >>>>> >>>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/ >>>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/ >>>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front page >>>> of python.org) >>> You mean PythonAnywhere ? >>> >>> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed >>> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned >>> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/. >>> >>>>> Python in the cloud: >>>>> >>>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python >>>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/ >>>>> >>>>> Python for education: >>>>> >>>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/ >>>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/ >>>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/ >>>>> >>>>> More alternative CPython packagings: >>>>> >>>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The wiki page lists a few more: >>>>> >>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations >>>>>>> page: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations, >>>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as >>>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc. >>>>>> Forgot the link to the page: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/ >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants >>>>>>> to the page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * `PyPy `_ (A `fast `_ python >>>>>>> implementation with a JIT compiler) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> for each variant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pydotorg-www mailing list >>>> pydotorg-www at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www From tritium-list at sdamon.com Thu Nov 5 18:40:41 2015 From: tritium-list at sdamon.com (Alexander Walters) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 18:40:41 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations In-Reply-To: <563BE73B.9020603@egenix.com> References: <5631DEF3.5070904@egenix.com> <5631DF21.1080807@egenix.com> <5631E501.1000101@egenix.com> <56353145.1020503@sdamon.com> <563A070F.7060207@egenix.com> <563A9146.1040601@sdamon.com> <563B2646.6070605@egenix.com> <563BE150.2020703@sdamon.com> <563BE73B.9020603@egenix.com> Message-ID: <563BE8F9.8050008@sdamon.com> Stackless is an alternative C python. It actually ships all of python. Stackless is a fork. './path/to/stackless/pythonthon mymodule.py' runs the module. Cython ships none of python. Cython requires that you already have a python installed, and uses python as a library. './path/to/cython mymodule.py' does not run the module. Nuitka ships none of python. Nuitka requires that you already have a python installed, and uses python as a library. './path/to/nuitka mymodule.py' does not run the module. How helpful for people who dont already know what it is to tell them its another implementation of cpython, when you cannot even run any python code with them? That you need another implementation already installed to do anything with them, and the output product of both of these tools is binaries linked.... NOT to the project, but to the other cypython you had to install? Technically, these two might have a tokenizer and lexer, and to an extent a parser, though IIRC, they use cpython's ASTs (nuitka does at least.), but what they output isnt useful without another python installed. they implement NOTHING of python. Including them helps NO ONE who didnt already know about them. On 11/5/2015 18:33, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 06.11.2015 00:08, Alexander Walters wrote: >> They don't implement....anything. Guido implemented it. > Actually, it's Guido and the Python core dev team who implemented it > and the cast of thousands who help by sending in patches. > >> but it is SUPREMELY unhelpful to list them as stand alone third party implementations of python, >> SINCE THEY ACTUALLY REQUIRE ANOTHER PYTHON TO RUN! You CANNOT run a Nuitka module without libpython >> being installed. 'standalone mode' simply links against an already existent cpython. >> >> So while technically It MIGHT be considered another python (It isnt. Its a CPython tool), it helps >> no one to tell them its another implementation of the language. > I'm not sure why you are getting all upset. There's nothing > to be dogmatic about. > > All of the implementations I listed below under "Alternative CPython" > use Python C code and the Python stdlib in one way or another - > that's why they are listed as *alternative* CPython. Unlike the already > listed repackaged Python versions, these implementations apply > changes to CPython or extend it in various way (by e.g. adding a JIT > compiler, adding additional syntax or compiling part of your > Python program to Python C extensions). > > Now, if you want to continue the discussion, please provide constructive > input. Otherwise, we can agree to disagree and stop the thread > right here. > >> On 11/5/2015 04:49, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>> On 05.11.2015 00:14, Alexander Walters wrote: >>>> To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the language... because you >>>> cannot run anything with them. Can you really call it a language runtime if you cant run anything >>>> with them? they are tooling. It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an >>>> implementation when they cant do anything with them alone. >>> Both are compilers and they do allow you to create Python >>> applications, just like gcc does for C (together with the >>> libc runtime), so I don't really understand why you would >>> not call them implementations of the language. They both >>> take Python code on input :-) >>> >>> I guess putting them under a "Python Compiler" heading >>> would satisfy your request. >>> >>>> On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote: >>>>>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of >>>>>> require c python to run. They are tooling at best. >>>>> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus >>>>> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions >>>>> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython. >>>>> Both support use of Python C extensions. >>>>> >>>>> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them >>>>> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python" >>>>> implementations :-) >>>>> >>>>>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alternative CPython: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/ >>>>>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/ >>>>>>> Cython - http://cython.org/ >>>>>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Python for embedded devices: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/ >>>>>> This list is incomplete. >>>>> Could you provide pointers to missing items ? >>>>> >>>>>>> Python in the browser: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/ >>>>>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/ >>>>>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front >>>>>> page >>>>>> of python.org) >>>>> You mean PythonAnywhere ? >>>>> >>>>> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed >>>>> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned >>>>> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/. >>>>> >>>>>>> Python in the cloud: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python >>>>>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Python for education: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/ >>>>>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/ >>>>>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> More alternative CPython packagings: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The wiki page lists a few more: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>>>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations >>>>>>>>> page: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations, >>>>>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as >>>>>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc. >>>>>>>> Forgot the link to the page: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants >>>>>>>>> to the page. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * `PyPy `_ (A `fast `_ python >>>>>>>>> implementation with a JIT compiler) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for each variant. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> pydotorg-www mailing list >>>>>> pydotorg-www at python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www From webgovernor at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 22:26:00 2015 From: webgovernor at gmail.com (Aaron Meier) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 20:26:00 -0700 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Intended edits to Web Frameworks page. Message-ID: Hello all, I'd like to add the Falcon and Pycnic web frameworks. Falcon (http://falconframework.org) is a fairly fast (Cython optimizations) and cleanly written micro-framework. It strikes a nice middle ground between Flask and raw-wsgi. Pycnic (http://pycnic.nullism.com) is a wsgi framework optimized for JSON APIs and provides routing/cookies/HTTP. I am not familiar with another JSON API only web framework at this time. Both frameworks are open source and (as far as I understand) do not rely on Paste or a similar foundation -- they appear unique to their respective markets. They also both support Python 2.7 and 3. *Disclaimer:* I've written much of the code base for Pycnic and so have a vested interest; I'm not in any way associated with Falcon. I genuinely think it would be a service to add these to the very large list of frameworks as it is currently the most complete page available. 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From h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com Mon Nov 9 15:34:04 2015 From: h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com (Hartmut Goebel) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2015 21:34:04 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities Message-ID: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com> Hi, I want to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities: - Remove MyMillan Installer, which is completely outdated - Update PyInstallers entry. - Table headings "latest version" "latest update date" need to be switched. If anybody else would change this: go ahead :-) -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible | From rosuav at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 17:30:51 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:30:51 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities In-Reply-To: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com> References: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Hartmut Goebel wrote: > I want to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities: > - Remove MyMillan Installer, which is completely outdated > - Update PyInstallers entry. > - Table headings "latest version" "latest update date" need to be switched. > > If anybody else would change this: go ahead :-) Hi Hartmut! I'd be happy to grant you access to make these changes; what's your wiki user name? ChrisA From rosuav at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 17:35:01 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:35:01 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Suggestion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:02 AM, ?rni Steingr?mur Sigur?sson wrote: > Instead of listing in alphabetical order, it would be more useful to > see the list on https://www.python.org/community/workshops/ as a > time-series. Broken down by season would also be good. Would you like to make that change? I can give you editing access if you like. Just create a user and I'll make you into an editor. ChrisA From mal at egenix.com Mon Nov 9 17:42:39 2015 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 23:42:39 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities In-Reply-To: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com> References: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com> Message-ID: <5641215F.7000004@egenix.com> On 09.11.2015 21:34, Hartmut Goebel wrote: > Hi, > > I want to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities: > - Remove MyMillan Installer, which is completely outdated Rather than removing the entry, I'd move it to an historic section. The McMillan installer was one of the first such installer creators we had for Python. > - Update PyInstallers entry. > - Table headings "latest version" "latest update date" need to be switched. > > If anybody else would change this: go ahead :-) > -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Experts (#1, Nov 09 2015) >>> Python Projects, Coaching and Consulting ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> Python Database Interfaces ... http://products.egenix.com/ >>> Plone/Zope Database Interfaces ... http://zope.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2015-10-23: Released mxODBC Connect 2.1.5 ... http://egenix.com/go85 ::: We implement business ideas - efficiently in both time and costs ::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ http://www.malemburg.com/ From h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com Tue Nov 10 05:00:17 2015 From: h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com (Hartmut Goebel) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:00:17 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities In-Reply-To: <5641215F.7000004@egenix.com> References: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com> <5641215F.7000004@egenix.com> Message-ID: <5641C031.7000503@crazy-compilers.com> Am 09.11.2015 um 23:42 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg: > Rather than removing the entry, I'd move it to an historic section. > > The McMillan installer was one of the first such installer > creators we had for Python. You are right - and the link point to webarchive, so the content is still relevant. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible | From h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com Tue Nov 10 04:59:32 2015 From: h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com (Hartmut Goebel) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:59:32 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities In-Reply-To: References: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com> Message-ID: <5641C004.9010100@crazy-compilers.com> Hi Chris, > >> I want to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities: >> - Remove MyMillan Installer, which is completely outdated >> - Update PyInstallers entry. >> - Table headings "latest version" "latest update date" need to be switched. >> >> If anybody else would change this: go ahead :-) > Hi Hartmut! I'd be happy to grant you access to make these changes; > what's your wiki user name? HartmutGoebel - sorry for not supplying it the first time. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goebel at crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible | From rosuav at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 05:10:05 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 21:10:05 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Want to udate https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities In-Reply-To: <5641C004.9010100@crazy-compilers.com> References: <5641033C.5030007@crazy-compilers.com> <5641C004.9010100@crazy-compilers.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Hartmut Goebel wrote: > Hi Chris, > >> >>> I want to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/DistributionUtilities: >>> - Remove MyMillan Installer, which is completely outdated >>> - Update PyInstallers entry. >>> - Table headings "latest version" "latest update date" need to be switched. >>> >>> If anybody else would change this: go ahead :-) >> Hi Hartmut! I'd be happy to grant you access to make these changes; >> what's your wiki user name? > > HartmutGoebel - sorry for not supplying it the first time. Thanks! The wiki is yours to improve. :) ChrisA From ginnungagap at free.fr Tue Nov 10 06:45:13 2015 From: ginnungagap at free.fr (Ginnungagap) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:45:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Editing In-Reply-To: <1075001686.312247027.1447155771247.JavaMail.root@zimbra1-e1.priv.proxad.net> Message-ID: <1800271741.312253084.1447155913814.JavaMail.root@zimbra1-e1.priv.proxad.net> Hello, My username on the wiki is : Jgoutin I want edit the wiki for add a page on Windows compilers (How intall and use Windows C++ compilers with Python for compile modules installed from pip or Cython files). Thanks. Regards. From rosuav at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 06:52:59 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 22:52:59 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python Wiki Editing In-Reply-To: <1800271741.312253084.1447155913814.JavaMail.root@zimbra1-e1.priv.proxad.net> References: <1075001686.312247027.1447155771247.JavaMail.root@zimbra1-e1.priv.proxad.net> <1800271741.312253084.1447155913814.JavaMail.root@zimbra1-e1.priv.proxad.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Ginnungagap wrote: > I want edit the wiki for add a page on Windows compilers (How intall and use Windows C++ compilers with Python for compile modules installed from pip or Cython files). There isn't one already? It seems such an obvious thing. I've made you an editor - go ahead and create that page! ChrisA From dbutler at fusionbox.com Tue Nov 10 16:35:28 2015 From: dbutler at fusionbox.com (Drew Butler) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:35:28 -0700 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Adding a CMS to the List Message-ID: Hello! I was looking at your list of content management systems , and I was hoping to add one. The developers at my company created Widgy , an open source drag-and-drop django cms. Is there any way you could add this to the list you have? Thanks! *Drew Butler, Search Engine Marketer* fusionbox? o: 303.952.7490 www.fusionbox.com This information is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From igor.dejanovic at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 05:49:19 2015 From: igor.dejanovic at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Igor_Dejanovi=c4=87?=) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:49:19 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki pages edit Message-ID: <56431D2F.40706@gmail.com> Hello, I've just created an account on Python Wiki - IgorDejanovic. I would like to add two tools I am working on to the list on LanguageParsing page. Please, could you add me to the EditorsGroup? Best regards, Igor Dejanovi? From rosuav at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 05:53:41 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:53:41 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki pages edit In-Reply-To: <56431D2F.40706@gmail.com> References: <56431D2F.40706@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Igor Dejanovi? wrote: > I've just created an account on Python Wiki - IgorDejanovic. > I would like to add two tools I am working on to the list on LanguageParsing > page. > > Please, could you add me to the EditorsGroup? > Sure! Done. ChrisA From matthew.rubenstein at blue-green-group.com Thu Nov 12 12:36:09 2015 From: matthew.rubenstein at blue-green-group.com (Matthew Rubenstein) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 12:36:09 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] EditorsGroup Add In-Reply-To: <56373FF8.1050203@egenix.com> References: <1446235127.23939.133.camel@blue-green-group.com> <1446243033.23939.149.camel@blue-green-group.com> <1446243768.4619.6.camel@blue-green-group.com> <5633FE09.3070400@egenix.com> <1446249316.5396.12.camel@blue-green-group.com> <56373FF8.1050203@egenix.com> Message-ID: <1447349769.18818.48.camel@blue-green-group.com> I tried 3x this afternoon to register and finally succeeded. There's something wrong with the site's registration system. Apart from the basic fix, it should send a confirmation email upon successful registration. FWIW I edited the article. I reregistered MatthewRubenstein with a different password but the same email address Matthew.Rubenstein at blue-green-group.com . I tried to login immediately; the login page took over a minute to return a reply, which didn't log me in. No response email. I tried requesting a lost password, but received no email in response (the response webpage took over a minute to return). I tried again submitting the same credentials. This time the registration page timed out. So I tried again a few minutes later. The response page took over a minute to return, and said "This user name already belongs to somebody else." So I tried to login and succeeded. On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 11:50 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 31.10.2015 00:55, Matthew Rubenstein wrote: > > I used that Lost Password page link > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass > > > > but 15 minutes later I haven't gotten a recover password email. I think > > my registration failed. > > > > I gave the Recover Password form on that page > > Username: MatthewRubenstein > > Email: Matthew.Rubenstein at blue-green-group.com > > > > which returned the EditorsGroup page > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup > > > > with a notification "If this account exists an email was sent. > > Clear message" and MatthewRubenstein at the end of the list. > > I checked the wiki user database: there is no entry with > your user details, so you will have to create the account > again: > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=newaccount > > > On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 00:32 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> On 30.10.2015 23:25, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Matthew Rubenstein > >>> wrote: > >>>> Thanks. I didn't receive an email challenge/confirmation message at > >>>> registration, so maybe that's the bottleneck on the reservation. > >>> > >>> Hmm. It's possible something's running slow or something. I'll let M-A > >>> or someone answer that. If you've attempted an edit and still can't, > >>> it'll need to be someone-not-me who fixes that. > >> > >> If you still can't log in by tomorrow, let me know. You can try > >> a password recovery to see whether email comes through: > >> > >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass > >> > >> The Mailman emails sometimes get blocked by spam filters > >> and we recently had a change in the IP address of mail.python.org > >> which may still be causing a bit of trouble. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthew.Rubenstein at Blue-Green-Group.com > > 718-233-5097 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pydotorg-www mailing list > > pydotorg-www at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > > > -- Matthew.Rubenstein at Blue-Green-Group.com 718-233-5097 From mal at egenix.com Fri Nov 13 08:17:20 2015 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 14:17:20 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] EditorsGroup Add In-Reply-To: <1447349769.18818.48.camel@blue-green-group.com> References: <1446235127.23939.133.camel@blue-green-group.com> <1446243033.23939.149.camel@blue-green-group.com> <1446243768.4619.6.camel@blue-green-group.com> <5633FE09.3070400@egenix.com> <1446249316.5396.12.camel@blue-green-group.com> <56373FF8.1050203@egenix.com> <1447349769.18818.48.camel@blue-green-group.com> Message-ID: <5645E2E0.3030206@egenix.com> Hi Matthew, sorry for the trouble you've had. Some background: The wiki is running behind a load balancer on a VM which is somewhat under powered for the task. I've already tried several things to make it run a little faster, but the response time has not improved. I believe the huge number of user accounts to be causing the slow response times when editing pages or interacting with parts of the system which touch user accounts. I'd love to clear out unused user accounts, but have so far not found a good way to do this, which also makes sure that valid ones are not removed. Despite the textchas we have in place, we are still getting lots of registrations for user accounts each day, e.g. on 2015-11-09 we had 65 new accounts created. The wiki currently has over 65000 user accounts and I suspect the moin software to touch every single one when doing page edits (possibly to process or check for event triggers). For such operations the VM takes too long to respond and the load balancer then times out even though the operation may well have succeeded. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Experts (#1, Nov 13 2015) >>> Python Projects, Coaching and Consulting ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> Python Database Interfaces ... http://products.egenix.com/ >>> Plone/Zope Database Interfaces ... http://zope.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2015-10-23: Released mxODBC Connect 2.1.5 ... http://egenix.com/go85 ::: We implement business ideas - efficiently in both time and costs ::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ http://www.malemburg.com/ On 12.11.2015 18:36, Matthew Rubenstein wrote: > I tried 3x this afternoon to register and finally succeeded. There's > something wrong with the site's registration system. Apart from the > basic fix, it should send a confirmation email upon successful > registration. FWIW I edited the article. > > I reregistered MatthewRubenstein with a different password but the same > email address Matthew.Rubenstein at blue-green-group.com . I tried to login > immediately; the login page took over a minute to return a reply, which > didn't log me in. No response email. I tried requesting a lost password, > but received no email in response (the response webpage took over a > minute to return). I tried again submitting the same credentials. This > time the registration page timed out. So I tried again a few minutes > later. The response page took over a minute to return, and said "This > user name already belongs to somebody else." So I tried to login and > succeeded. > > > On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 11:50 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> On 31.10.2015 00:55, Matthew Rubenstein wrote: >>> I used that Lost Password page link >>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass >>> >>> but 15 minutes later I haven't gotten a recover password email. I think >>> my registration failed. >>> >>> I gave the Recover Password form on that page >>> Username: MatthewRubenstein >>> Email: Matthew.Rubenstein at blue-green-group.com >>> >>> which returned the EditorsGroup page >>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup >>> >>> with a notification "If this account exists an email was sent. >>> Clear message" and MatthewRubenstein at the end of the list. >> >> I checked the wiki user database: there is no entry with >> your user details, so you will have to create the account >> again: >> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=newaccount >> >>> On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 00:32 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>>> On 30.10.2015 23:25, Chris Angelico wrote: >>>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Matthew Rubenstein >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Thanks. I didn't receive an email challenge/confirmation message at >>>>>> registration, so maybe that's the bottleneck on the reservation. >>>>> >>>>> Hmm. It's possible something's running slow or something. I'll let M-A >>>>> or someone answer that. If you've attempted an edit and still can't, >>>>> it'll need to be someone-not-me who fixes that. >>>> >>>> If you still can't log in by tomorrow, let me know. You can try >>>> a password recovery to see whether email comes through: >>>> >>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup?action=recoverpass >>>> >>>> The Mailman emails sometimes get blocked by spam filters >>>> and we recently had a change in the IP address of mail.python.org >>>> which may still be causing a bit of trouble. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthew.Rubenstein at Blue-Green-Group.com >>> 718-233-5097 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pydotorg-www mailing list >>> pydotorg-www at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www >>> >> > > > > -- > Matthew.Rubenstein at Blue-Green-Group.com > 718-233-5097 > > > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > From liverpoolmike4u at hotmail.com Sun Nov 15 00:30:11 2015 From: liverpoolmike4u at hotmail.com (michael allen boyd) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 23:30:11 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] (no subject) Message-ID: Sent from my Windows Phone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Jonathan Darren Contact: kiosmima at sina.com From dang at SPOKESMAN.com Thu Nov 19 14:30:35 2015 From: dang at SPOKESMAN.com (Dan Gayle) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:30:35 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add Python Spokane user group Message-ID: Hello, My name is Dan Gayle, I'm the organizer of the local Python user group. I'd love to have us added to the wiki. http://www.meetup.com/Spokane-Python-Meetup/ http://www.twitter.com/python-spokane Thanks! Dan Gayle Newsroom Developer The Spokesman-Review From rosuav at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 14:47:23 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 06:47:23 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add Python Spokane user group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:30 AM, Dan Gayle wrote: > My name is Dan Gayle, I'm the organizer of the local Python user group. I'd love to have us added to the wiki. > > http://www.meetup.com/Spokane-Python-Meetup/ > http://www.twitter.com/python-spokane Sure! What's your Wiki user name? ChrisA From rosuav at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 14:52:49 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 06:52:49 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add Python Spokane user group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Dan Gayle wrote: > DanGayle Cool. You're an editor now! Go ahead and add your group. ChrisA From stefan.schindler at posteo.ch Thu Nov 19 17:36:18 2015 From: stefan.schindler at posteo.ch (Stefan Schindler) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 23:36:18 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Swiss Python Summit 2016 Message-ID: <564E4EE2.2080306@posteo.ch> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi all I found this conference missing your Page: https://www.python-summit.ch/ Regards Stefan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWTk7eAAoJEIzjbGfA9Nj9t40H/iQRA5yIc9/YVicn0/gfrBXQ CzPnuHyEUZJXxxbI0+GyMFdeELwFNArySWlaeqz/hx2p9WCyhY9qcb3t2aTw2Aqn eON3yjrakeh+JtDoVYxnGqDamTDmSsnvJJpIo24QJsH8j4fXO69TqQNexBfg07gJ NU9mvc2bq1O7PCQGSNJrlVdidJas65LW0uyqIVnp5CkWsnq8kIarVp6I/bn5uqKu N0n9TdNTZxhkVjz/3GPPhHREMAvjNXktMP2PSF7e4k7d9CMwvmBPgG51UDcyoWfs l8ZX17VFPghwYfaYWncii4C/87EYXVCGoYXAAgB2rbO2v1q9DqIoW3JuIwkKDH4= =D9J0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rosuav at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 18:01:01 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:01:01 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Swiss Python Summit 2016 In-Reply-To: <564E4EE2.2080306@posteo.ch> References: <564E4EE2.2080306@posteo.ch> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Stefan Schindler wrote: > I found this conference missing your Page: https://www.python-summit.ch/ Would you like to add it? I'm sure you know more about it than I do - which isn't hard, given that all I know about it is what I learned from your post. If you create a user on the wiki, I can make you an editor, and then you'll be able to add the link and have some useful descriptive text too. ChrisA From vul3yo6 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 20 00:44:29 2015 From: vul3yo6 at hotmail.com (Tseng ChuanMing) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:44:29 +0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] have an Python Conference that want to add to list Message-ID: Hi Python Conference, I am a Volunteer who come from Taiwan, and i have an Python Conference that want to add to Conferences list. The Conferences list url is https://www.python.org/community/workshops/ and PyCon Taiwan url isURL: PyCon Taiwan Thanks for your help. 2015-11-20 ************************************** ???? 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From nick at tengda-online.com Sun Nov 22 03:30:08 2015 From: nick at tengda-online.com (TENGDA INTERNATIONAL) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:30:08 +0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] =?utf-8?q?BASS_TUNER_SETS?= Message-ID: <20151122163009.1100.99125@tengda-online.com> ????HTML??????????HTML???????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sevkeifert at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 17:24:01 2015 From: sevkeifert at gmail.com (Kevin Seifert) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:24:01 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] new python fluidsynth gui Message-ID: I was going to mention, I wrote a new graphical user interface for fluidsynth (in Python). It's an alternative to Qsynth. http://sevkeifert.blogspot.com/2015/11/simple-graphical-interface-for.html or, the direct link to the git hub repo: https://github.com/sevkeifert/fluidsynth-gui It uses fluidsynth's socket api, so it should work reliably across all platforms. For me, qsynth just crashes (I'm using xubuntu 14.04 currently), and is difficult for me to use with multiple sound fonts. If you want, it may be added to this list of music-related software https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonInMusic Thanks, Kevin Seifert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From godson at lintelindia.com Sun Nov 22 18:21:33 2015 From: godson at lintelindia.com (Godson) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 04:51:33 +0530 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Unable to edit wiki page Message-ID: <000001d1257c$8910b140$9b3213c0$@lintelindia.com> Hi, I have just signed up on python wiki but, unable to edit pages. As per the instruction found on front page, I am writing in. Please, add me account "GodsonGera" to EditorsGroup. My blog is already added in planet python. I have been working with python for over a decade. I want to edit the PythonConsulting page to add my firm Lintel Technologies. Also, want to add my libraries StarPy and PySWITCH to python wiki. -- Thanks & Regards, Godson Gera http://lintelindia.com Lintel Technologies Pvt Ltd. Level 7 Maximus towers 2A, Mindspace, Hi-Tech City, Hyderabad From rosuav at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 18:22:32 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:22:32 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] new python fluidsynth gui In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Kevin Seifert wrote: > If you want, it may be added to this list of music-related software If you want, I can make you an editor, and then you'll be able to add it! ChrisA From rosuav at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 18:29:27 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:29:27 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Unable to edit wiki page In-Reply-To: <000001d1257c$8910b140$9b3213c0$@lintelindia.com> References: <000001d1257c$8910b140$9b3213c0$@lintelindia.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Godson wrote: > I have just signed up on python wiki but, unable to edit pages. As per the > instruction found on front page, I am writing in. Please, add me account > "GodsonGera" to EditorsGroup. Sure! Added. ChrisA From godson at lintelindia.com Sun Nov 22 18:32:50 2015 From: godson at lintelindia.com (Godson) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 05:02:50 +0530 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Unable to edit wiki page In-Reply-To: References: <000001d1257c$8910b140$9b3213c0$@lintelindia.com> Message-ID: <000101d1257e$1c210c90$546325b0$@lintelindia.com> Hi Chris, Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Chris Angelico [mailto:rosuav at gmail.com] Sent: 23 November 2015 04:59 To: Godson Cc: pydotorg-www at python.org Subject: Re: [pydotorg-www] Unable to edit wiki page On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Godson wrote: > I have just signed up on python wiki but, unable to edit pages. As per > the instruction found on front page, I am writing in. Please, add me > account "GodsonGera" to EditorsGroup. Sure! Added. ChrisA From rosuav at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 18:46:27 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:46:27 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] new python fluidsynth gui In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Kevin Seifert wrote: > That sounds good. My launchpad account uses the same email address: > sevkeifert at gmail.com > You'll need to make an account on the wiki, and tell us your user name. ChrisA From rosuav at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 19:07:43 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:07:43 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] new python fluidsynth gui In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Kevin Seifert wrote: > I created a new account. It is: KevinSeifert > > thanks! No problem, you're now an editor! ChrisA From pydanny at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 17:10:40 2015 From: pydanny at gmail.com (Daniel Greenfeld) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:10:40 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Requesting edit access to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining Message-ID: May I have edit rights to this page? Regards, Daniel Roy Greenfeld -- 'Knowledge is Power' Daniel Roy Greenfeld Co-author of Two Scoops of Django pydanny.com | twoscoopspress.com | twoscoopsacademy.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rosuav at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 17:12:26 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:12:26 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Requesting edit access to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Daniel Greenfeld wrote: > May I have edit rights to this page? > > Regards, > > Daniel Roy Greenfeld Sure! What's your Wiki user name? If you don't have one, you'll need to sign up first. ChrisA From pydanny at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 17:15:20 2015 From: pydanny at gmail.com (Daniel Greenfeld) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:15:20 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Requesting edit access to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My Wiki user name is 'pydanny'. Been a member for years. On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Daniel Greenfeld > wrote: > > May I have edit rights to this page? > > > > Regards, > > > > Daniel Roy Greenfeld > > Sure! What's your Wiki user name? If you don't have one, you'll need > to sign up first. > > ChrisA > -- 'Knowledge is Power' Daniel Roy Greenfeld Co-author of Two Scoops of Django pydanny.com | twoscoopspress.com | twoscoopsacademy.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rosuav at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 17:20:42 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:20:42 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Requesting edit access to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Daniel Greenfeld wrote: > My Wiki user name is 'pydanny'. Been a member for years. Apologies for not recognizing you; I'm new here, so I treat everyone the same way. You're now an editor - have at it! ChrisA From pydanny at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 17:21:22 2015 From: pydanny at gmail.com (Daniel Greenfeld) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:21:22 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Requesting edit access to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No need to apologize! I'm pretty silent on the mailing lists. On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Daniel Greenfeld > wrote: > > My Wiki user name is 'pydanny'. Been a member for years. > > Apologies for not recognizing you; I'm new here, so I treat everyone > the same way. You're now an editor - have at it! > > ChrisA > -- 'Knowledge is Power' Daniel Roy Greenfeld Co-author of Two Scoops of Django pydanny.com | twoscoopspress.com | twoscoopsacademy.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mattdmo at pigimal.com Tue Nov 24 08:30:45 2015 From: mattdmo at pigimal.com (MattDMo) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 08:30:45 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] request to be added to EditorsGroup Message-ID: <78312FB4-E94D-4ADC-A956-04516B0413F3@pigimal.com> Hi, My username is MattDMo, and I'd like to be added to the EditorsGroup on wiki.python.org . There are probably a number of pages I could contribute to, but currently I'd like to update https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors#Online_Editors to include such services as wakari.io and pythonanywhere.com . Thanks! Matt Morrison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rosuav at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 08:35:22 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 00:35:22 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] request to be added to EditorsGroup In-Reply-To: <78312FB4-E94D-4ADC-A956-04516B0413F3@pigimal.com> References: <78312FB4-E94D-4ADC-A956-04516B0413F3@pigimal.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:30 AM, MattDMo wrote: > Hi, > My username is MattDMo, and I'd like to be added to the EditorsGroup on > wiki.python.org. There are probably a number of pages I could contribute to, > but currently I'd like to update > https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors#Online_Editors to include such > services as wakari.io and pythonanywhere.com. Sounds great! Your contributions will be most welcome. Have at it! ChrisA From vul3yo6 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 24 08:57:41 2015 From: vul3yo6 at hotmail.com (Tseng ChuanMing) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 21:57:41 +0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] have an Python Conference that want to add to list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Python Conference, I am a Volunteer who come from Taiwan, and i have an Python Conference that want to add to Conferences list. I already had send email last week, but still no see the url add to web page. The Conferences list web page is https://www.python.org/community/workshops/ and PyCon Taiwan url isURL: PyCon Taiwan Can you add the Taiwan Python Conference url to web page? Thanks for your help. 2015-01-24 ************************************** ???? ( Tseng Chuan - Ming ) Mobile : 0958-121177 Mail : vul3yo6 at hotmail.com ************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Thu Nov 26 15:53:24 2015 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 14:53:24 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] job board under "attack" Message-ID: This is copy #11 or so of the same posing every few seconds. No clue what is up, but can someone disable something before we have a few 1000 of these? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:51 PM Subject: [Jobs] Job Submitted for Approval: 3, Smith To: jobs at python.org The following job was submitted for approval: Title: 3 Company: Smith Posted: 26 November 2015 Category: Administrator Contact: 3 Description: To view and review: URL: https://python.org/jobs/883/ _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs -- Carl K -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mal at python.org Fri Nov 27 03:33:21 2015 From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 09:33:21 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: [Jobs] Job Submitted for Approval: 3, */netsparker(0x005D0D); /* In-Reply-To: <20151126205441.31008.83244@pydotorg-prod.iad1.psf.io> References: <20151126205441.31008.83244@pydotorg-prod.iad1.psf.io> Message-ID: <56581551.5060106@python.org> It looks like someone ran a script yesterday to inspect the job board for vulnerabilities. There were more than a hundred entries of the form below. Someone apparently already cleared out those entries from the database: thanks for that ! I'll open a ticket for this, so that we can look for ways to help prevent this in the future. Cheers, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Director Python Software Foundation http://www.python.org/psf/ http://www.malemburg.com/ -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [Jobs] Job Submitted for Approval: 3, */netsparker(0x005D0D);/* Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:54:41 -0000 From: jobs at python.org To: jobs at python.org The following job was submitted for approval: Title: 3 Company: */netsparker(0x005D0D);/* Posted: 26 November 2015 Category: Administrator Contact: 3 Description: To view and review: URL: https://python.org/jobs/917/ _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs From mal at python.org Fri Nov 27 03:49:12 2015 From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 09:49:12 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Jobs] Fwd: Job Submitted for Approval: 3, */netsparker(0x005D0D); /* In-Reply-To: <56581551.5060106@python.org> References: <20151126205441.31008.83244@pydotorg-prod.iad1.psf.io> <56581551.5060106@python.org> Message-ID: <56581908.8030104@python.org> On 27.11.2015 09:33, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > It looks like someone ran a script yesterday to inspect > the job board for vulnerabilities. > > There were more than a hundred entries of the form below. > > Someone apparently already cleared out those entries from the > database: thanks for that ! > > I'll open a ticket for this, so that we can look for ways > to help prevent this in the future. Done: https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/852 -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Director Python Software Foundation http://www.python.org/psf/ http://www.malemburg.com/ From ccdesales at gmail.com Sat Nov 28 07:13:24 2015 From: ccdesales at gmail.com (Cesar Cardenas Desales) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 13:13:24 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Swiss Python Summit 2016 Message-ID: Please add the following event: * name of the event: Swiss Python Summit 2016 * type of event: Conference * focus on Python: All of Python * approximate number of attendees: 120 * location (incl. country): Rapperswil, Switzerland * dates/times/recurrence (incl. time zone): February 5th, 2016 / 9:00 to 18:00 CET / yearly * URL: http://www.python-summit.ch/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noreplay at webnsg.com Sat Nov 28 13:04:02 2015 From: noreplay at webnsg.com (IT Services) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:04:02 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Do you need IT services ? Message-ID: <3e2c57bfe14872c66d7fea0ebd100a92@webnsg.com> If you can't read this email, please view it online http://www.webnsg.com http://webnsg.com/redirect -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rosuav at gmail.com Sun Nov 29 04:26:12 2015 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:12 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] https://www.python.org/downloads/ offline In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Pablo Lucena wrote: > Is anyone else getting 503 errors when accessing the downloads page of > python.org? > > > -- > *Pablo Lucena* > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Yes, the whole site seems to be down. Cc'ing the www list, although someone probably knows already. ChrisA