[pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations

[Alexander Walters]

To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the 
language... because you cannot run anything with them.  Can you really 
call it a language runtime if you cant run anything with them?  they are 
tooling.  It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an 
implementation when they cant do anything with them alone.

On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote:
>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of
>> require c python to run.  They are tooling at best.
> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus
> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions
> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython.
> Both support use of Python C extensions.
>
> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them
> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python"
> implementations :-)
>
>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page:
>>>
>>> Alternative CPython:
>>>
>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/
>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/
>>> Cython - http://cython.org/
>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/
>>>
>>> Python for embedded devices:
>>>
>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/
>> This list is incomplete.
> Could you provide pointers to missing items ?
>
>>> Python in the browser:
>>>
>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/
>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/
>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front page
>> of python.org)
> You mean PythonAnywhere ?
>
> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed
> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned
> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/.
>
>>> Python in the cloud:
>>>
>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python
>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/
>>>
>>> Python for education:
>>>
>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/
>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/
>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/
>>>
>>> More alternative CPython packagings:
>>>
>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython
>>>
>>>
>>> The wiki page lists a few more:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations
>>>>> page:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842
>>>>>
>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations,
>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as
>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc.
>>>> Forgot the link to the page:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/
>>>>
>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants
>>>>> to the page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ?
>>>>>
>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form:
>>>>>
>>>>> * `PyPy <http://pypy.org/>`_ (A `fast <http://speed.pypy.org>`_ python
>>>>>     implementation with a JIT compiler)
>>>>>
>>>>> for each variant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
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