[pydotorg-www] List of alternative Python implementations

[M.-A. Lemburg]

On 05.11.2015 00:14, Alexander Walters wrote:
> To be absolutely clear, Nuitka and Cython are not implementations of the language... because you
> cannot run anything with them.  Can you really call it a language runtime if you cant run anything
> with them?  they are tooling.  It is unhelpful to new users to list this tooling as an
> implementation when they cant do anything with them alone.

Both are compilers and they do allow you to create Python
applications, just like gcc does for C (together with the
libc runtime), so I don't really understand why you would
not call them implementations of the language. They both
take Python code on input :-)

I guess putting them under a "Python Compiler" heading
would satisfy your request.

> On 11/4/2015 08:24, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 31.10.2015 22:23, Alexander Walters wrote:
>>> Nuitka and Cython cant really be called alternate implementations of c python, since they kind of
>>> require c python to run.  They are tooling at best.
>> I'm not sure I follow. Cython runs all Python code, plus
>> manages extensions for more easily compiling functions
>> to C extensions. Nuitka tries to implement most of CPython.
>> Both support use of Python C extensions.
>>
>> It's true that both need libpython - that's why I listed them
>> as "Alternative CPython" and not as "Alternative Python"
>> implementations :-)
>>
>>> On 10/29/2015 05:21, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>> Some implementations which are not listed on the page:
>>>>
>>>> Alternative CPython:
>>>>
>>>> HotPy - https://sites.google.com/site/makingcpythonfast/
>>>> Pyston - http://blog.pyston.org/
>>>> Cython - http://cython.org/
>>>> Nuitka - http://nuitka.net/
>>>>
>>>> Python for embedded devices:
>>>>
>>>> MicroPython - https://micropython.org/
>>> This list is incomplete.
>> Could you provide pointers to missing items ?
>>
>>>> Python in the browser:
>>>>
>>>> Brython - http://www.brython.info/
>>>> Skulpt - http://www.skulpt.org/
>>> as is this one (it does not even list the python in the cloud implementation used on the front page
>>> of python.org)
>> You mean PythonAnywhere ?
>>
>> I think there's a misunderstanding here. I just listed
>> alternative implementations which aren't already mentioned
>> on https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/.
>>
>>>> Python in the cloud:
>>>>
>>>> Trinket - https://trinket.io/python
>>>> Wakari - https://wakari.io/
>>>>
>>>> Python for education:
>>>>
>>>> Python Fiddle - http://pythonfiddle.com/
>>>> Geometry Zen - http://www.geometryzen.org/
>>>> Evaluzio - http://www.evaluzio.net/
>>>>
>>>> More alternative CPython packagings:
>>>>
>>>> StaticPython - https://code.google.com/p/pts-mini-gpl/wiki/StaticPython
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The wiki page lists a few more:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>> On 29.10.2015 09:55, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>>> There's currently a ticket open for the alternative implementations
>>>>>> page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/842
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The page currently lists a few variants of Python implementations,
>>>>>> but is not up to date with more recent developments such as
>>>>>> Brython, Pyston, HotPy, etc.
>>>>> Forgot the link to the page:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should try to add all currently maintained variants
>>>>>> to the page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would someone like to help with this ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'd need ReST entries of the form:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * `PyPy <http://pypy.org/>`_ (A `fast <http://speed.pypy.org>`_ python
>>>>>>     implementation with a JIT compiler)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for each variant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
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