From wes.turner at gmail.com Mon Dec 2 20:04:24 2019 From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 20:04:24 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] UBY, BUG: Responsive wiki templates, ENH: MoinMoin git storage, DOC: Guidelines for citations, ENH: Custom search engine? Message-ID: UBY,BUG: Create responsive wiki templates The wiki pages are not readable on mobile because the templates aren't responsive. There are docs for the python.org site and the Jinja2 templates and CSS are on GitHub: - https://pythondotorg.readthedocs.io/ - https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/blob/master/templates/base.html Where are the MoinMoin Jinja2 (?) templates and CSS sources hosted? Who owns these? The site design team did a great job. For the wiki, responsive breakpoints and minimal headers above the fold would be great. Would it be easier to adapt/fork/brand/recognize existing responsive MoinMoin templates? ... ENH: MoinMoin git storage / backend? A git backend with a repo in GitHub and evented bidirectional synchronization might get the wiki the attention it needs. - https://moin-20.readthedocs.io/en/latest/devel/development.html#storage People have moved to gh-pages, awesome lists (and hybrid GH wikis w/ Sphinx renders thereof [x]) for a multitude of reasons, I think. The pull request workflow is very familiar to maintainers now. - https://devguide.python.org/ - https://docs.python.org/ - https://discuss.python.org/ - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=awesome+python+site%3Agithub.com - https://github.com/quobit/awesome-python-in-education [x] https://github.com/westurner/wiki/issues/5 [y] https://github.com/westurner/wiki/blob/master/Makefile#L294 ... DOC: Guidelines for citations I'm sending this to this list per a discussion and request in "[python-dev] Mixed Python/C debugging" regarding the wiki and also whether it's appropriate to reference e.g. third-party libraries and tools that I just found in: the devguide, the wiki, the mailing list(s), discuss.python.org, StackOverflow, GitHub? https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev at python.org/thread/L2KBZM64MYPXIITN4UU3X6L4PZS2YRTB/ ... ENH: Custom search engine? Maybe we don't even need a custom search engine because a 'site:python.org' search query is sufficient to search the Python community(s) for tools and resources? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tom at frameworktraining.co.uk Tue Dec 3 07:30:45 2019 From: tom at frameworktraining.co.uk (Tom Walker) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 12:30:45 -0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Trouble logging in to add Python Training event info to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining/Events Message-ID: <2658153b93b491566768a6a93be10815@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, We would love to be able to update our listing on https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining/ and also add event data to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining/Events I?m not sure if our login details have expired but every time I?ve checked to see if I could login (going back some time) I?ve received 504: bad gateway. Should I try registering a new account? I?d previously registered with contact at frameworktraining.co.uk Many thanks for any assistance you can give :-) Kind regards, Tom Tom Walker Technical Director www.frameworktraining.co.uk tom at frameworktraining.co.uk t: 020 3137 3920 m: 07990 743 379 [image: EMAIL signature golden ratio] ? Framework Training Ltd 2018. Framework Training Ltd is registered in England and Wales - Company Number 07356646 Registered Address and Correspondence: 4, Woodley?s Yard, Aldbourne, SN8 2BL, UK VAT Number GB 106 1690 39 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 13034 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mats at wichmann.us Tue Dec 3 12:34:01 2019 From: mats at wichmann.us (Mats Wichmann) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 10:34:01 -0700 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Trouble logging in to add Python Training event info to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining/Events In-Reply-To: <2658153b93b491566768a6a93be10815@mail.gmail.com> References: <2658153b93b491566768a6a93be10815@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/3/19 5:30 AM, Tom Walker wrote: > Hi there, > > We would love to be able to update our listing on > https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining/ and also add event data to > https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining/Events > > I?m not sure if our login details have expired but every time I?ve > checked to see if I could login (going back some time) I?ve received > 504: bad gateway. > > Should I try registering a new account? I?d previously registered with > contact at frameworktraining.co.uk > > Many thanks for any assistance you can give :-) > > Kind regards, > > Tom we have bursts of this problem, it's believed due to overloaded VM (overloaded by being hammered by bots trying to break in, not because it itself is doing too much work). the credentials you mention don't look like wiki credentials, however, they're supposed to be in the form of a WikiName, and are not related to credentials elsewhere on python.org. I certainly don't see anything that contains "framework" in the list of people authorized to edit pages. Are you sure those are the right credentials? From steve at holdenweb.com Wed Dec 4 07:42:51 2019 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 12:42:51 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Webmaster] Python success stories In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Margriet, I'm forwarding this message to the web maintainers, who ought to be able to put you in touch with the Success Stories' editor. In the event that you need further help, please don't hesitate to ask at webmaster again. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 8:09 AM Margriet Komrij wrote: > Dear Sir, Madam, > > > > I hope I?m correct addressing this e-mail to you. If not, could you let me > know who I should address this to? > > > > We as beslist.nl have been implementing Python for about fifteen years > now. I have learned from our technical department that we are happy using > Python for data-analyses and machine learning. That is why we wondered if > it is possible to team up and name our collaboration on the success stories > page? https://www.python.org/success-stories/ > > > > We would be happy to let python.org visitors know what Python does for > us. I will explain a bit more about us and where Python is helping > beslist.nl. We are a big online ?marketplace? in the Netherlands, there > are around 10.000 web shops enclosed on our website. This means we have > more than millions of items online on our website. Python helps us with > making all the data manageable. On our database we use machine learning > models from Python libraries, this ?data? output is processed in other > systems that we use for our backend. Our programmers told me they find > Python very useful for this. > > > > I am curious what you think about it, would you be interested in putting > our testimonial on your website? If you are interested, we can discuss > together further how our mention on the success stories page will look > like. Of course, I can ask one of our programmers to join me to explain > more about the usage of Python in our company. > > > > I look forward to your response. Have a nice day! > > > > Best regards, > > > > Margriet Komrij > > > > > > Met vriendelijke groet, > > > > *Margriet Komrij* > > Online Marketeer > > [image: cid:image001.png at 01D5A9EE.B6AF9AD0] > > > > *Meander 825* > > *6825 MH Arnhem * > > 026 31 90 410 > > www.beslist.nl > > > [image: cid:54567BF2-49A7-4602-BA6D-F237039FB95B] > > > > _______________________________________________ > Webmaster mailing list > Webmaster at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/webmaster > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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PyCon Tanzania event will be happening this coming week from 10th - 11th and we see that this has not been updated on the calendar. Kindly do the needful On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 2:50 PM Noah . wrote: > Hi Team > > Pleased to inform that we are organizing a Python conference in Tanzania > and the meeting will take place from 10th - 11th December 2019 in Dar es > salaam, Tanzania. > > Please add the following event: > > * name of the event: PyCon Tanzania > * type of event: * focus on Python: Python Conference > * approximate number of attendees: 100 > * location (incl. country): Tanzania > * dates/times/recurrence (incl. time zone): 10th - 11th December 2019 / > 06:00GMT - 14:00GMT / Annually > * HTML link using the format PyCon > Tanzania: > > > Thank you so much. > > Cheers, > Noah > Community Moderator > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards, Steve Holden On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 4:12 PM Ilkka Kokkarinen wrote: > Hello, > > > After three semesters of teaching my introduction to programming with > Python course at Chang School for Continuing Education at Ryerson > University for adult professionals of various levels, my collection "109 > Python Problems for CCPS 109" is ready to be shared with the wider world. > > https://github.com/ikokkari/PythonProblems > > This repository includes the automated pseudorandom fuzz tester script > tester109.py and the two text files needed to run some of tests. 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URL: From frances.hocutt at gmail.com Sat Dec 14 23:55:46 2019 From: frances.hocutt at gmail.com (Frances Hocutt) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 20:55:46 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Resource book lists are mostly one publishing house Message-ID: Hello all, While going through the wiki working on Python 3 updates, I noticed that these two pages now stretch to hundreds of books from a single publisher: https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntroductoryBooks https://wiki.python.org/moin/AdvancedBooks This seems like it runs into spamming/broad self-promotion more than a usefully curated list of resources, but I'm not familiar with how this wiki usually handles that kind of thing. Could someone more familiar with this wiki take a look? Thank you, Frances From mats at wichmann.us Sun Dec 15 00:20:29 2019 From: mats at wichmann.us (Mats Wichmann) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 22:20:29 -0700 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Resource book lists are mostly one publishing house In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98d0a8af-d0a2-956b-0c93-67df917b9614@wichmann.us> On 12/14/19 9:55 PM, Frances Hocutt wrote: > Hello all, > > While going through the wiki working on Python 3 updates, I noticed > that these two pages now stretch to hundreds of books from a single > publisher: > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntroductoryBooks > https://wiki.python.org/moin/AdvancedBooks > > This seems like it runs into spamming/broad self-promotion more than a > usefully curated list of resources, but I'm not familiar with how this > wiki usually handles that kind of thing. Could someone more familiar > with this wiki take a look? We do have one publisher - Packt - that keeps updating all the time. They produce books at an astounding rate. I've looked at a fair number and they're not useless, although they're of fairly low quality in my personal opinion - it's a kind of "book mill". I haven't a clue what we think we should do about them. I think we warned them a few times about changing the sorting to put their books at the top, and believe they stopped that and kept to the "alphabetical order" we suggest. Beyond that... don't think we can say they're doing something wrong. Without someone curating the list for quality, which we don't have, it's not clear there's any actual complaint we can make. Thanks for asking - it's a good question. Anybody else? From steve at holdenweb.com Sun Dec 15 07:48:04 2019 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 12:48:04 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Resource book lists are mostly one publishing house In-Reply-To: <98d0a8af-d0a2-956b-0c93-67df917b9614@wichmann.us> References: <98d0a8af-d0a2-956b-0c93-67df917b9614@wichmann.us> Message-ID: They've already been warned once. Personal opinion: they should be stopped from spamming our Wiki, in which they currently have undue prominence. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:20 AM Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 12/14/19 9:55 PM, Frances Hocutt wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > While going through the wiki working on Python 3 updates, I noticed > > that these two pages now stretch to hundreds of books from a single > > publisher: > > > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntroductoryBooks > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/AdvancedBooks > > > > This seems like it runs into spamming/broad self-promotion more than a > > usefully curated list of resources, but I'm not familiar with how this > > wiki usually handles that kind of thing. Could someone more familiar > > with this wiki take a look? > > We do have one publisher - Packt - that keeps updating all the time. > They produce books at an astounding rate. I've looked at a fair number > and they're not useless, although they're of fairly low quality in my > personal opinion - it's a kind of "book mill". > > I haven't a clue what we think we should do about them. I think we > warned them a few times about changing the sorting to put their books at > the top, and believe they stopped that and kept to the "alphabetical > order" we suggest. Beyond that... don't think we can say they're doing > something wrong. Without someone curating the list for quality, which we > don't have, it's not clear there's any actual complaint we can make. > > Thanks for asking - it's a good question. > > Anybody else? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fritzke at web.de Sun Dec 15 10:06:44 2019 From: fritzke at web.de (Bernd Fritzke) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 16:06:44 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Please add me to the wiki editors group Message-ID: <20f4bbc6-6b91-4d45-1c07-764befd8e1c0@web.de> Hello, initially I would like to update two links on ?? https://wiki.python.org/moin/DocumentationTools which point to non-existing pages: * http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ext/autosummary.html * http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ext/autodoc.html Could you please add me to the editors group? I am an experienced? python programmer, a.o.t. author of https://pypi.org/project/kmeanstf/ Thanks and kind regards Bernd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mats at wichmann.us Sun Dec 15 10:44:57 2019 From: mats at wichmann.us (Mats Wichmann) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 08:44:57 -0700 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Please add me to the wiki editors group In-Reply-To: <20f4bbc6-6b91-4d45-1c07-764befd8e1c0@web.de> References: <20f4bbc6-6b91-4d45-1c07-764befd8e1c0@web.de> Message-ID: On 12/15/19 8:06 AM, Bernd Fritzke wrote: > Hello, > > initially I would like to update two links on > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/DocumentationTools > > which point to non-existing pages: > > * http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ext/autosummary.html > * http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ext/autodoc.html > > Could you please add me to the editors group? yes, but we need your wiki name to do so. > > I am an experienced? python programmer, a.o.t. author of > https://pypi.org/project/kmeanstf/ > > Thanks and kind regards > > Bernd From mal at python.org Mon Dec 16 03:58:23 2019 From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:58:23 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Resource book lists are mostly one publishing house In-Reply-To: References: <98d0a8af-d0a2-956b-0c93-67df917b9614@wichmann.us> Message-ID: Agreed. We had this discussion before, but no action was taken AFAIK. On 15.12.2019 13:48, Steve Holden wrote: > They've already been warned?once. > > Personal opinion: they should?be stopped from spamming our Wiki, in > which they currently have undue prominence. > > Kind regards, > Steve Holden > > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:20 AM Mats Wichmann > wrote: > > On 12/14/19 9:55 PM, Frances Hocutt wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > While going through the wiki working on Python 3 updates, I noticed > > that these two pages now stretch to hundreds of books from a single > > publisher: > > > >? ?https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntroductoryBooks > >? ?https://wiki.python.org/moin/AdvancedBooks > > > > This seems like it runs into spamming/broad self-promotion more than a > > usefully curated list of resources, but I'm not familiar with how this > > wiki usually handles that kind of thing. Could someone more familiar > > with this wiki take a look? > > We do have one publisher - Packt - that keeps updating all the time. > They produce books at an astounding rate.? I've looked at a fair number > and they're not useless, although they're of fairly low quality in my > personal opinion - it's a kind of "book mill". > > I haven't a clue what we think we should do about them.? I think we > warned them a few times about changing the sorting to put their > books at > the top, and believe they stopped that and kept to the "alphabetical > order" we suggest. Beyond that... don't think we can say they're doing > something wrong. Without someone curating the list for quality, > which we > don't have, it's not clear there's any actual complaint we can make. > > Thanks for asking - it's a good question. > > Anybody else? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > > > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Python Software Foundation http://www.python.org/psf/ http://www.malemburg.com/ From steve at holdenweb.com Mon Dec 16 12:58:49 2019 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 17:58:49 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Resource book lists are mostly one publishing house In-Reply-To: References: <98d0a8af-d0a2-956b-0c93-67df917b9614@wichmann.us> Message-ID: Escalate this to Board? There are clearly sponsorship issues to be considered, and I know Packt generates a portion of revenues to the Foundation so this needs to be considered where all the information is available. Copying PSF staffers in. As a member of the sponsorship committee I believe it's time for the Foundation to plant a clear stake in the ground, delete many or even all of the references to Packt publications and publish a blog post stating why the action was taken. I believe Packt have taken advantage of a liberal regime, but I think rather than being punitive we should simply "reset" them: our fault for not being clearer about the rules, now EVERYBODY knows what they are let's start again. Or maybe we just need wiki editors to start giving their publications some honest reviews. I withdrew as an editorial consultant from one proposed work that still went ahead despite serious quality issues, and I have heard enough similar stories from other authors/reviewers that I believe Packt's actions may be against the membership's interests in promoting works of dubious value. The ultimate decision, however, is well above my now happily lowly pay grade. Given that I start my Christmas vacation tomorrow evening, let me take this opportunity to wish all readers the very best of everything over their festive season, and a prosperous new year. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 8:58 AM M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Agreed. We had this discussion before, but no action was taken AFAIK. > > On 15.12.2019 13:48, Steve Holden wrote: > > They've already been warned once. > > > > Personal opinion: they should be stopped from spamming our Wiki, in > > which they currently have undue prominence. > > > > Kind regards, > > Steve Holden > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:20 AM Mats Wichmann > > wrote: > > > > On 12/14/19 9:55 PM, Frances Hocutt wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > While going through the wiki working on Python 3 updates, I noticed > > > that these two pages now stretch to hundreds of books from a single > > > publisher: > > > > > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntroductoryBooks > > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/AdvancedBooks > > > > > > This seems like it runs into spamming/broad self-promotion more > than a > > > usefully curated list of resources, but I'm not familiar with how > this > > > wiki usually handles that kind of thing. Could someone more > familiar > > > with this wiki take a look? > > > > We do have one publisher - Packt - that keeps updating all the time. > > They produce books at an astounding rate. I've looked at a fair > number > > and they're not useless, although they're of fairly low quality in my > > personal opinion - it's a kind of "book mill". > > > > I haven't a clue what we think we should do about them. I think we > > warned them a few times about changing the sorting to put their > > books at > > the top, and believe they stopped that and kept to the "alphabetical > > order" we suggest. Beyond that... don't think we can say they're > doing > > something wrong. Without someone curating the list for quality, > > which we > > don't have, it's not clear there's any actual complaint we can make. > > > > Thanks for asking - it's a good question. > > > > Anybody else? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pydotorg-www mailing list > > pydotorg-www at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pydotorg-www mailing list > > pydotorg-www at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > > > > -- > Marc-Andre Lemburg > Python Software Foundation > http://www.python.org/psf/ > http://www.malemburg.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From wes.turner at gmail.com Fri Dec 6 10:39:22 2019 From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 10:39:22 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] UBY, BUG: Responsive wiki templates, ENH: MoinMoin git storage, DOC: Guidelines for citations, ENH: Custom search engine? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The psf infrastructure team may have something to say about whether upgrading moinmoin is a priority. Creating a local instance for theme development should be pretty easy. https://github.com/python/psf-salt/blob/master/salt/moin/init.sls The first search result for "moinmoin responsive" appears to be based on Bootstrap 3.2.0 from circa 5 years ago: https://github.com/dossist/moinmoin-memodump Bootstrap v3.3.7 is the latest 3.x, for which there are many free and paid themes. That's a pretty much just a drop-in upgrade. https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/ Would it be as simple as adding the logo SVG and links to the sidebar? ... That Makefile I shared pushes to the master and wiki branches (and then pushes the built HTML to the gh-pages branch). Pull requests against the master branch could easily be merged to the restricted wiki branch automatically or with severely diligent human review. Though, I'm sure there are a number of folks who would be hesitant to abandon moinmoin maintenance by converting from moin syntax to RestructuredText (or Markdown) with moin2rst or pandoc and just hosting with e.g. ReadTheDocs. https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/19 Not a high priority for me personally, but there's definitely knowledge that's not being captured to the wiki that could help everyone. On Fri, Dec 6, 2019, 9:26 AM Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 12/2/19 6:04 PM, Wes Turner wrote: > > UBY,BUG: Create responsive wiki templates > > > > The wiki pages are not readable on mobile because the templates aren't > > responsive. > > Sorry about that, I thought by sending you here it would draw some > responses. > > After having a brief poke around I don't think MoinMoin directly > supports a "responsive" design, though some people appear to have tried > to get there via themes. There appears to have been a Summer of Code > project almost a decade ago now but I'm not finding evidence that went > mainstream. At this point, I don't even know who "runs" the moinmoin > instance... sigh. Projects run by voluteers, you gotta love em'!!! I > *think* our version is fairly old, and I'm not recalling any real > appetite for upgrading. > > I have some experience with github wikis, I find them horrid, really > wouldn't want to go that way unless there's considerable extra stuff to > soup them up (your hybrid wiki/sphinx might fit that bill). The PR > mechanism doesn't extend to the wikis yet, afaik. > > -- mats > > > > > > There are docs for the python.org site and the > > Jinja2 templates and CSS are on GitHub: > > - https://pythondotorg.readthedocs.io/ > > - https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/blob/master/templates/base.html > > > > Where are the MoinMoin Jinja2 (?) templates and CSS sources hosted? > > Who owns these? > > The site design team did a great job. > > For the wiki, responsive breakpoints and minimal headers above the fold > > would be great. > > > > Would it be easier to adapt/fork/brand/recognize existing responsive > > MoinMoin templates? > > > > ... > > > > ENH: MoinMoin git storage / backend? > > > > A git backend with a repo in GitHub and evented bidirectional > > synchronization might get the wiki the attention it needs. > > > > - > https://moin-20.readthedocs.io/en/latest/devel/development.html#storage > > > > People have moved to gh-pages, awesome lists (and hybrid GH wikis w/ > > Sphinx renders thereof [x]) for a multitude of reasons, I think. The > > pull request workflow is very familiar to maintainers now. > > > > - https://devguide.python.org/ > > - https://docs.python.org/ > > - https://discuss.python.org/ > > - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=awesome+python+site%3Agithub.com > > - https://github.com/quobit/awesome-python-in-education > > > > [x] https://github.com/westurner/wiki/issues/5 > > [y] https://github.com/westurner/wiki/blob/master/Makefile#L294 > > > > ... > > > > DOC: Guidelines for citations > > > > I'm sending this to this list per a discussion and request in > > "[python-dev] Mixed Python/C debugging" regarding the wiki and also > > whether it's appropriate to reference e.g. third-party libraries and > > tools that I just found in: the devguide, the wiki, the mailing list(s), > > discuss.python.org , StackOverflow, GitHub? > > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev at python.org/thread/L2KBZM64MYPXIITN4UU3X6L4PZS2YRTB/ > > > > ... > > > > ENH: Custom search engine? > > > > Maybe we don't even need a custom search engine because a > > 'site:python.org ' search query is sufficient to > > search the Python community(s) for tools and resources? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pydotorg-www mailing list > > pydotorg-www at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neal at mcburnett.org Thu Dec 19 10:22:30 2019 From: neal at mcburnett.org (Neal McBurnett) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 08:22:30 -0700 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing priviliges cf. https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage#use Message-ID: <20191219152230.GJ5548@feynman> Hello, esteemed python wiki maintainers! I'm Login Name: NealMcBurnett I created my wiki.python account back in 2007 as I recall, but haven't used it since 2013, so I just reset my password. I saw some out-of-date info at https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonInMusic and wanted to fix it. I've used wikis since hearing about them from their inventor, Ward Cunningham. I'm a regular editor since 2002 at Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nealmcb) and much more. Please add me to https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup Thanks! Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ From rosuav at gmail.com Thu Dec 19 10:29:11 2019 From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 02:29:11 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing priviliges cf. https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage#use In-Reply-To: <20191219152230.GJ5548@feynman> References: <20191219152230.GJ5548@feynman> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 2:25 AM Neal McBurnett wrote: > > Hello, esteemed python wiki maintainers! > > I'm Login Name: NealMcBurnett > > I created my wiki.python account back in 2007 as I recall, but haven't used it since 2013, so I just > reset my password. > > I saw some out-of-date info at https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonInMusic and wanted to fix it. > > I've used wikis since hearing about them from their inventor, Ward Cunningham. I'm a regular editor since 2002 at Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nealmcb) and much more. > > Please add me to https://wiki.python.org/moin/EditorsGroup > Added! Thank you for your assistance. (And you have some quite notable credentials, not that we require that of course!) ChrisA From raycxhuang at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 21:50:53 2019 From: raycxhuang at gmail.com (Ray Huang) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 13:50:53 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Editting Wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Sir/Madam, I would like to request access to edit the wiki. The page I would like to edit is my personal home page. My wiki account is RayHuang. Thanks, Ray Huang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From raycxhuang at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 21:51:50 2019 From: raycxhuang at gmail.com (Ray Huang) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 13:51:50 +1100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Request to edit wiki Message-ID: Dear Sir/Madam, I would like to request access to edit the wiki. The page I would like to edit is my personal home page. My wiki account is RayHuang. 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I will explain a bit more about us and where Python is helping beslist.nl. We are a big online ?marketplace? in the Netherlands, there are around 10.000 web shops enclosed on our website. This means we have more than millions of items online on our website. Python helps us with making all the data manageable. On our database we use machine learning models from Python libraries, this ?data? output is processed in other systems that we use for our backend. Our programmers told me they find Python very useful for this. I am curious what you think about it, would you be interested in putting our testimonial on your website? If you are interested, we can discuss together further how our mention on the success stories page will look like. Of course, I can ask one of our programmers to join me to explain more about the usage of Python in our company. I look forward to your response. Have a nice day! Met vriendelijke groet, Margriet Komrij Online Marketeer [cid:image001.png at 01D5BF1E.23D98640] Meander 825 6825 MH Arnhem 026 31 90 410 www.beslist.nl [cid:54567BF2-49A7-4602-BA6D-F237039FB95B] Van: Steve Holden Verzonden: woensdag 4 december 2019 13:43 Aan: Margriet Komrij ; pydotorg-www at python.org Web Maintainers CC: webmaster at python.org Onderwerp: Re: [Webmaster] Python success stories Hi Margriet, I'm forwarding this message to the web maintainers, who ought to be able to put you in touch with the Success Stories' editor. In the event that you need further help, please don't hesitate to ask at webmaster again. Kind regards, Steve Holden On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 8:09 AM Margriet Komrij > wrote: Dear Sir, Madam, I hope I?m correct addressing this e-mail to you. If not, could you let me know who I should address this to? We as beslist.nl have been implementing Python for about fifteen years now. I have learned from our technical department that we are happy using Python for data-analyses and machine learning. That is why we wondered if it is possible to team up and name our collaboration on the success stories page? https://www.python.org/success-stories/ We would be happy to let python.org visitors know what Python does for us. I will explain a bit more about us and where Python is helping beslist.nl. We are a big online ?marketplace? in the Netherlands, there are around 10.000 web shops enclosed on our website. This means we have more than millions of items online on our website. Python helps us with making all the data manageable. On our database we use machine learning models from Python libraries, this ?data? output is processed in other systems that we use for our backend. Our programmers told me they find Python very useful for this. I am curious what you think about it, would you be interested in putting our testimonial on your website? If you are interested, we can discuss together further how our mention on the success stories page will look like. Of course, I can ask one of our programmers to join me to explain more about the usage of Python in our company. I look forward to your response. Have a nice day! Best regards, Margriet Komrij Met vriendelijke groet, Margriet Komrij Online Marketeer [cid:image001.png at 01D5A9EE.B6AF9AD0] Meander 825 6825 MH Arnhem 026 31 90 410 www.beslist.nl [cid:54567BF2-49A7-4602-BA6D-F237039FB95B] _______________________________________________ Webmaster mailing list Webmaster at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/webmaster -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 25060 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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