From kfrjanssens at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 17:32:20 2020
From: kfrjanssens at gmail.com (Kenny Janssens)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 23:32:20 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Dead link on
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/MovingToPythonFromOtherLanguages
Message-ID: <CANdVcGbSj4H42H-1_Prn7oS0H74jLab-1F-MqOJx0F-mn4PaBg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Just decided to learn Python.

I noticed a dead link on this page:
https://wiki.python.org/moin/MovingToPythonFromOtherLanguages

On the bottom of the page there is a 'Culture' link that results in a 404
Not Found page.

This is the link: https://www.python.org/dev/culture/

--Kenny
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From cursosdepython at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 05:58:34 2020
From: cursosdepython at gmail.com (Cursos Python)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 11:58:34 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing request
Message-ID: <CACPYDrz0103Nrym0jO9YEnnXJbD2Gp3=r3SRFnKEqJLo2Hh4Pg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I would like to edit the following wiki:
https://wiki.python.org/moin/SpanishLanguage

There is not much documentation in Spanish about Python, and I blog at
www.cursospython.com so I would like to add our posts, that cover
basic/intermediate Python to the wiki.

Thanks!
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 08:01:18 2020
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 22:01:18 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing request
In-Reply-To: <CACPYDrz0103Nrym0jO9YEnnXJbD2Gp3=r3SRFnKEqJLo2Hh4Pg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACPYDrz0103Nrym0jO9YEnnXJbD2Gp3=r3SRFnKEqJLo2Hh4Pg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmo7reQZm17vTdurAbYYiajV41eKzFC82=bTjXzoSMJSHQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 7:58 PM Cursos Python <cursosdepython at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I would like to edit the following wiki: https://wiki.python.org/moin/SpanishLanguage
>
> There is not much documentation in Spanish about Python, and I blog at www.cursospython.com so I would like to add our posts, that cover basic/intermediate Python to the wiki.
>
> Thanks!
>

That'd be awesome. Do you have a Wiki user name?

ChrisA

From rosuav at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 13:59:43 2020
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 03:59:43 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing request
In-Reply-To: <CACPYDrzm1=ZKea6n0p_Gb0uN=uPwBO-kMd_3AE=SYA9Bsz07eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACPYDrz0103Nrym0jO9YEnnXJbD2Gp3=r3SRFnKEqJLo2Hh4Pg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPTjJmo7reQZm17vTdurAbYYiajV41eKzFC82=bTjXzoSMJSHQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACPYDrzm1=ZKea6n0p_Gb0uN=uPwBO-kMd_3AE=SYA9Bsz07eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmozr4SQ8S_-SGGfjtS=+=uRz6nQYYh5ecpa-YyGOB5FjA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 2:49 AM Cursos Python <cursosdepython at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ups sorry, totally forgot. My user name is "cursospython".
>

Perfect, thanks.

You should now be able to make edits. All the best!

ChrisA

From sh at changeset.nyc  Wed Jun  3 16:18:34 2020
From: sh at changeset.nyc (Sumana Harihareswara)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 16:18:34 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing IntroductoryBooks page
In-Reply-To: <dde77e60-d345-5195-a9c4-0b914b5e7319@wichmann.us>
References: <CADmM-70V4TQiNRczP7a6wf5pbcx2QO7kVRzeC4M4trCXHMDR3w@mail.gmail.com>
 <dde77e60-d345-5195-a9c4-0b914b5e7319@wichmann.us>
Message-ID: <554d775b-f123-4603-3692-92a5330b9721@changeset.nyc>

On 1/29/20 11:47 AM, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> On 1/29/20 7:36 AM, dani?l bosold wrote:
>> I was just reading the wiki looking for some recommended introductory
>> books on the IntroductoryBooks page and noticed that most of the
>> entries there are Video courses. While, interesting, it's not what
>> this page is about. Hoping to edit this page (and move the courses to
>> a VideoCourses page - or some such) I found that it's locked down,
>> likely due to inconsiderate users or spammers.
> 
> your guess is correct (the latter).
> 
>> I'd like to be able to fix this page as well as add a separate one for courses.
> 
> Sigh. It looks like Packt has been at it again.  We need some kind of
> solution to their overwhelming the pages, and maybe some solution to the
> currency of materials (I notice the end of the list have some things
> approaching 20 years old, not terribly likely to be that useful).
> 
> In any case, you need to tell us your wiki name before you can be added
> to the editors list.  Since spambots aren't able to provide the
> explanation you have just given, the bar is set right there: just tell
> us why you want to edit and we'll turn it on for you.
> 
> Note: if you don't have a wiki account yet, there have been some issues
> in recent times with account creation, the auth system there
> occasionally times out.  The current recommendation there is just to
> keep trying, hopefully that will be good enough.

Packt's behavior is so demoralizing. Ever since I read 
https://blogs.gnome.org/danni/2013/04/22/review-gnome-3-application-development-beginners-guide/ 
I've been so wary of their work.

-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Changeset Consulting
https://changeset.nyc

From pdimitrov at pevogam.com  Thu Jun  4 06:22:30 2020
From: pdimitrov at pevogam.com (Plamen Dimitrov)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 13:22:30 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing of the PythonTestingToolsTaxonomy page
In-Reply-To: <71a4cfe7-469c-f9b0-6035-f76ff3310045@wichmann.us>
References: <56036761-f52d-e5ad-2785-56bfb264e285@pevogam.com>
 <71a4cfe7-469c-f9b0-6035-f76ff3310045@wichmann.us>
Message-ID: <ac24e2d5-3907-6cd3-f1c7-99fda50af6c2@pevogam.com>

Hi and apology for the delay,

On 2020-04-17 01:40, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> On 4/16/20 4:00 PM, Plamen Dimitrov wrote:
>> I would like to edit the page on:
>>
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTestingToolsTaxonomy#GUI_Testing_Tools
>>
>> regarding addition of some new GUI testing tools. After checking the front
>> page I was redirected to to write an email to this address and ask to be
>> included in the editors. Is this still possible?
> 
> It requires two things:
> 
> (1) a coherent email from a human indicating some knowledge of what
> they're doing, to avoid bots and scammers.  DONE
> 
> (2) a wiki account name that can be added to the page of authorized
> editors. We still need that...
> 

I created one with username "Plamen Dimitrov", and is valid and works well
upon first login. Does this suffice?

Best,
Plamen Dimitrov

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From mats at wichmann.us  Thu Jun  4 08:15:13 2020
From: mats at wichmann.us (Mats Wichmann)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 06:15:13 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing of the PythonTestingToolsTaxonomy page
In-Reply-To: <ac24e2d5-3907-6cd3-f1c7-99fda50af6c2@pevogam.com>
References: <56036761-f52d-e5ad-2785-56bfb264e285@pevogam.com>
 <71a4cfe7-469c-f9b0-6035-f76ff3310045@wichmann.us>
 <ac24e2d5-3907-6cd3-f1c7-99fda50af6c2@pevogam.com>
Message-ID: <c78cd2bf-5e1e-952b-45d4-9ff96c2f453c@wichmann.us>

On 6/4/20 4:22 AM, Plamen Dimitrov wrote:
> Hi and apology for the delay,


You should be good to edit now.

> On 2020-04-17 01:40, Mats Wichmann wrote:
>> On 4/16/20 4:00 PM, Plamen Dimitrov wrote:
>>> I would like to edit the page on:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTestingToolsTaxonomy#GUI_Testing_Tools
>>>
>>> regarding addition of some new GUI testing tools. After checking the front
>>> page I was redirected to to write an email to this address and ask to be
>>> included in the editors. Is this still possible?
>>
>> It requires two things:
>>
>> (1) a coherent email from a human indicating some knowledge of what
>> they're doing, to avoid bots and scammers.  DONE
>>
>> (2) a wiki account name that can be added to the page of authorized
>> editors. We still need that...
>>
> 
> I created one with username "Plamen Dimitrov", and is valid and works well
> upon first login. Does this suffice?
> 
> Best,
> Plamen Dimitrov
> 


From cursosdepython at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 07:26:21 2020
From: cursosdepython at gmail.com (Cursos Python)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 13:26:21 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add page request
Message-ID: <CACPYDryjS4iPVW8q9FU1HZ1r+HCXgd8YebaGXj2Q2XKtfQ8ycQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

Just changed my username to "cornpbs" and looks like I lost editing rights
on the spanish page (https://wiki.python.org/moin/SpanishLanguage)

I would also like to create a page "SpanishPythonBooks" since it doesn't
exist, and add it to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBooks

So:

   - Can I get editing rights in the SpanishLanguage for user cornpbs
   - Can someone help me with creating SpanishPythonBooks and having rights
   on that page?
   - And if someone could add the new SpanishPythonBooks to PythonBooks,
   would be perfect. I don't really need rights on that page.

Thank you so much!
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 08:14:00 2020
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:14:00 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add page request
In-Reply-To: <CACPYDryjS4iPVW8q9FU1HZ1r+HCXgd8YebaGXj2Q2XKtfQ8ycQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACPYDryjS4iPVW8q9FU1HZ1r+HCXgd8YebaGXj2Q2XKtfQ8ycQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmq5TN1g0WzMRKqXb2LcYQ7eswGLLRNCcm4CJWRm2KsWkg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:26 PM Cursos Python <cursosdepython at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Just changed my username to "cornpbs" and looks like I lost editing rights on the spanish page (https://wiki.python.org/moin/SpanishLanguage)
>

Yeah, you'd have lost editing rights to all pages. But I've renamed
you on the permission list, so you should be fine again.

> I would also like to create a page "SpanishPythonBooks" since it doesn't exist, and add it to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBooks
>

Ah, that part I'm not sure about. It might be that you could just
create the page yourself now, but in case you can't, I've created a
stub page. You should be able to edit it to add the actual content,
and also to add it to the PythonBooks index (I haven't added it
because there's no value adding a stub).

ChrisA

From angelo at sunlightmedia.org  Sat Jun  6 17:10:02 2020
From: angelo at sunlightmedia.org (Angelo Frisina)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 14:10:02 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Training workshop
Message-ID: <020801d63c46$d916dda0$8b4498e0$@sunlightmedia.org>

Hi, I would like to post a training workshop to your page.
Please let me know how I can get added to the editors group.
 
thanks.
 

 
 
 





Angelo Frisina
Founder / CEO 
	

Sunlight Media LLC.
811 W. 7th St, Level 12, Los Angeles. CA 90017 
+1 323.868.3581 |www.SunlightMedia.org <http://www.sunlightmedia.org/>  
Follow me on Twitter <http://twitter.com/designerLA> , LinkedIn
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/sunlight-media>  & InstaGram
<https://instagram.com/sunlightmedia/> 
Schedule Consultation <https://calendly.com/sunlightmedia>  
 
 
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From mats at wichmann.us  Sun Jun  7 11:21:39 2020
From: mats at wichmann.us (Mats Wichmann)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:21:39 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Training workshop
In-Reply-To: <020801d63c46$d916dda0$8b4498e0$@sunlightmedia.org>
References: <020801d63c46$d916dda0$8b4498e0$@sunlightmedia.org>
Message-ID: <856ecc8a-402a-71b7-f499-e49f77eb4d71@wichmann.us>

On 6/6/20 3:10 PM, Angelo Frisina via pydotorg-www wrote:
> Hi, I would like to post a training workshop to your page.
> 
> Please let me know how I can get added to the editors group.

The two items we request are:

(1) a brief note describing why you want to edit, to try to filter out
bots and spammers (you've done this)
(2) a wiki name we can actually add to the editors list.

So you need to let us know #2.


From m at luto.at  Sun Jun  7 16:30:55 2020
From: m at luto.at (Michael Lutonsky)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2020 22:30:55 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] editing permission for wiki
Message-ID: <6aeee007-9557-469d-a59c-85af966583df@www.fastmail.com>

Hi!

I'd like to update the PythonGraphLibraries[1] since almost all of the links are outdated. Please add me to the editors group.

Username: luto

Thanks!

-Michael

[1]: https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonGraphLibraries

From rosuav at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 18:33:41 2020
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 08:33:41 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] editing permission for wiki
In-Reply-To: <6aeee007-9557-469d-a59c-85af966583df@www.fastmail.com>
References: <6aeee007-9557-469d-a59c-85af966583df@www.fastmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmqC3QDK_m4u38ufNWiVQ0LVaAkoEir+6sXbWmYRgUvVRA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 6:31 AM Michael Lutonsky <m at luto.at> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'd like to update the PythonGraphLibraries[1] since almost all of the links are outdated. Please add me to the editors group.
>
> Username: luto
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Michael
>
> [1]: https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonGraphLibraries

No problem! Have at it.

ChrisA

From angelo at sunlightmedia.org  Mon Jun  8 12:20:12 2020
From: angelo at sunlightmedia.org (Angelo Frisina)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 09:20:12 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Training workshop
In-Reply-To: <856ecc8a-402a-71b7-f499-e49f77eb4d71@wichmann.us>
References: <020801d63c46$d916dda0$8b4498e0$@sunlightmedia.org>
 <856ecc8a-402a-71b7-f499-e49f77eb4d71@wichmann.us>
Message-ID: <01d301d63db0$b00e1660$102a4320$@sunlightmedia.org>

Hi Mats,
 
(2) a wiki name we can actually add to the editors list.
SunlightMedia
 
 
thanks.
Angelo.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mats Wichmann <mats at wichmann.us> 
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:22 AM
To: angelo at sunlightmedia.org; pydotorg-www at python.org
Subject: Re: [pydotorg-www] Training workshop
 
On 6/6/20 3:10 PM, Angelo Frisina via pydotorg-www wrote:
> Hi, I would like to post a training workshop to your page.
> 
> Please let me know how I can get added to the editors group.
 
The two items we request are:
 
(1) a brief note describing why you want to edit, to try to filter out
bots and spammers (you've done this)
(2) a wiki name we can actually add to the editors list.
 
So you need to let us know #2.
 
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From bartosz.peszek at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 06:00:54 2020
From: bartosz.peszek at gmail.com (DevilXD)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 12:00:54 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Dequeue "get length" time complexity?
Message-ID: <CAM958YrrVXfuRxZe+RGsA1O0nnANLK8JJQ18x6Q5sZMqiZkH0g@mail.gmail.com>

So I've been looking at this page:
https://wiki.python.org/moin/TimeComplexity

I was looking for the time complexity of checking the dequeue's length, and
this information is missing. Would it be possible to add this there?
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From pdimitrov at pevogam.com  Tue Jun  9 10:11:04 2020
From: pdimitrov at pevogam.com (Plamen Dimitrov)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 17:11:04 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing of the PythonTestingToolsTaxonomy page
In-Reply-To: <c78cd2bf-5e1e-952b-45d4-9ff96c2f453c@wichmann.us>
References: <56036761-f52d-e5ad-2785-56bfb264e285@pevogam.com>
 <71a4cfe7-469c-f9b0-6035-f76ff3310045@wichmann.us>
 <ac24e2d5-3907-6cd3-f1c7-99fda50af6c2@pevogam.com>
 <c78cd2bf-5e1e-952b-45d4-9ff96c2f453c@wichmann.us>
Message-ID: <fbd8c70e-bf51-d9b2-13b0-0273b685c01b@pevogam.com>

Hi again,

On 2020-06-04 15:15, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> On 6/4/20 4:22 AM, Plamen Dimitrov wrote:
>> Hi and apology for the delay,
> 
> You should be good to edit now.
> 

I edited the page but can currently only save drafts. If I try to save the
changes I get

```
TextCha: Wrong answer! Try again below..
```

However, I cannot find any TextCha displayed anywhere along the page. Am
I missing something?

Best,
Plamen

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From alisonseward826 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 18:27:12 2020
From: alisonseward826 at gmail.com (Alison Seward)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 17:27:12 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Can I have a computer and I'm not looking for a job
Message-ID: <CAHGpSsO5_Y1mQZm2FCqv+b=fkVN-0Vy0Fgo0RQ9vYffgA6uopQ@mail.gmail.com>

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From pdimitrov at pevogam.com  Wed Jun 10 06:44:58 2020
From: pdimitrov at pevogam.com (Plamen Dimitrov)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 13:44:58 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing of the PythonTestingToolsTaxonomy page
In-Reply-To: <fbd8c70e-bf51-d9b2-13b0-0273b685c01b@pevogam.com>
References: <56036761-f52d-e5ad-2785-56bfb264e285@pevogam.com>
 <71a4cfe7-469c-f9b0-6035-f76ff3310045@wichmann.us>
 <ac24e2d5-3907-6cd3-f1c7-99fda50af6c2@pevogam.com>
 <c78cd2bf-5e1e-952b-45d4-9ff96c2f453c@wichmann.us>
 <fbd8c70e-bf51-d9b2-13b0-0273b685c01b@pevogam.com>
Message-ID: <f09d352e-1956-c858-79be-fee1ab60d667@pevogam.com>

Hi,

On 2020-06-09 17:11, Plamen Dimitrov wrote:
> On 2020-06-04 15:15, Mats Wichmann wrote:
>> On 6/4/20 4:22 AM, Plamen Dimitrov wrote:
>>> Hi and apology for the delay,
>> You should be good to edit now.
>>
> I edited the page but can currently only save drafts. If I try to save the
> changes I get
> 
> ```
> TextCha: Wrong answer! Try again below..
> ```
> 
> However, I cannot find any TextCha displayed anywhere along the page. Am
> I missing something?

The TextCha appeared now so I updated the page.

Thanks for all of your support,
Plamen

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From sh at changeset.nyc  Wed Jun  3 17:10:44 2020
From: sh at changeset.nyc (Sumana Harihareswara)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 17:10:44 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Success stories procedure
Message-ID: <c5429b67-a1a6-23bf-c3ca-18166b70ea90@changeset.nyc>

I see there isn't yet a Python Success Story in the Arts category 
https://www.python.org/success-stories/category/arts/ so I'm helping 
someone write one up. I have www.python.org publishing access. Is it 
okay for me to just create and publish it, or is there a group/committee 
I should check with first?

Thanks.
-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Changeset Consulting
https://changeset.nyc

From sh at changeset.nyc  Fri Jun 12 12:30:48 2020
From: sh at changeset.nyc (Sumana Harihareswara)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 12:30:48 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] some requests for a meeting minuting feature on
 www.python.org
Message-ID: <61ac6902-5d4a-0722-399b-d09706ebd410@changeset.nyc>

I spoke with Ernest a few weeks ago about how www.python.org could 
become a better home for public minutes of meetings. So here is my 
current thinking - this is long, but I want to share it in public in 
case it helps others understand the work.

Context:

Right now, www.python.org hosts the board meeting minutes 
https://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/ . We talked about 
maybe also making space for working group/project meeting minutes, like 
the ones I write up and currently host on the wiki (example: 
https://wiki.python.org/psf/PackagingWG#Dependency_resolver_and_user_experience_improvements_for_pip 
).

In the call, Ernest asked me to list what would be important in a 
minuting package for www.python.org, distinguishing "required" from 
"heavily encouraged" to "dream features".


Current workflow:

Right now, in order to minute meetings of Packaging WG-funded projects, I:

* use an Etherpad at pad.sfconservancy.org (just because it's a public 
and reliable EtherPad instance) and take notes with bullet points
* after the meeting, use its Export function to export to plain text
* mess with the formatting to adjust to MoinMoin wiki syntax
* go to https://wiki.python.org/psf/PackagingWG and create a new 
placeholder link in the table of meeting notes, annotating with the 
description, type (meeting notes), and date
* copy the text into that page, fix formatting, and hit Save
* erase the meeting notes from the Etherpad and hyperlink to the 
archived notes


What I want:

For the process in general, I have 3 core values:
* Ease of writing: it should be easy for me and for other meeting 
attendees to collaborate on writing minutes, live, during the meeting, 
in a reasonably lightweight syntax (such as Markdown)
* Privacy: as we write the minutes, they should be private to meeting 
attendees, so we can discuss things we then redact before sharing 
(vacations, burnout, criticism of other people or projects)
* Transparency: the final minutes should be public where anyone can read 
them, without having to log in anywhere, and linkable


As I understand it, a minuting system on www.python.org would have a 
hierarchy like PSF -> Working Group -> Project.  Example: PSF -> 
Packaging WG -> Pip dependency resolver & UX improvements.


Required:

* Discoverability: the public minutes should be easy to find from a 
central project info hub, and show up in search engine results.
* Linkability: each meeting should have some unique URL or anchor tag, 
so that it's easy to link to minutes within an issue or mailing list post.
* Ease of formatting: some subset of HTML, Markdown, and 
reStructuredText should be supported.


Heavily encouraged:

* Automated table of contents on the Project page. Should include (by 
default) date and title of meeting, and it should be possible for me to 
also manually append (maybe in a separate list) links to relevant blog 
posts, reports, podcasts, etc.
* Automated table of contents on the Working Group page to all Projects 
underneath it.
* Finding aid/intro: A structure on each Project page that includes a 
freeform text field but also encourages certain fields (project name, 
list of participants, estimated start and end dates).
* Ease of formatting: Markdown support.
* Ease of import: a batch process to import old minutes from 
wiki.python.org, even if I then have to mess with formatting.
* Granular privileges: I'd like to let all my team members add minutes 
within our chunk of the site hierarchy.
* Ease of sign-on: Single sign-on with other PSF systems.
* Minutes structure: Structured text fields for meeting title, list of 
participants, discussion, and Next Steps/TODOs/Commitments.


Dream:

* Ease of navigation: from a particular minutes entry, I'd love to be 
able to click Next or Previous to go to the next/previous entry within 
that project chronologically.
* Ease of import: take an HTML import from Etherpad and strip the colors 
and other unnecessary syntax.
* Ease of import: On some note-taking platform (could be HackMD, 
Etherpad, Dropbox Paper, Google Docs, Nextcloud, or something else), I 
could choose an option to export to a new www.python.org minute. The new 
draft would autopopulate, so I could make changes and click Publish, and 
then it would show up at the right URL and be present in a Table of 
Contents automagically.
* Ease of formatting: support MoinMoin wiki syntax (so I can copy old 
stuff easily).
* Ease of reporting: this is really out-there, but if I could use some 
feature to automatically pull out the top-level discussion headings from 
each minute, and make a list of "here's what we discussed", then I could 
use that when publicizing the meeting notes, and it would make people 
more likely to read them.
* Analytics: so I could see who is linking to those notes and where 
they're being referred to.

-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Changeset Consulting
https://changeset.nyc

From mal at egenix.com  Fri Jun 12 13:13:23 2020
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 19:13:23 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Success stories procedure
In-Reply-To: <c5429b67-a1a6-23bf-c3ca-18166b70ea90@changeset.nyc>
References: <c5429b67-a1a6-23bf-c3ca-18166b70ea90@changeset.nyc>
Message-ID: <f5405598-1ec5-c37e-aae8-a19ab4720426@egenix.com>

On 03.06.2020 23:10, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> I see there isn't yet a Python Success Story in the Arts category
> https://www.python.org/success-stories/category/arts/ so I'm helping
> someone write one up. I have www.python.org publishing access. Is it
> okay for me to just create and publish it, or is there a group/committee
> I should check with first?

A long time ago (at the time we ran the Python brochure), there was an
effort to have a group screen submissions, but this failed due to the
website not implementing a usable workflow.

Now, it's better to have at least some new stories rather than none,
but there should be at least a bit of editorial screening, so perhaps
you could simply post the story here to get some additional feedback.

-- 
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eGenix.com

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From mal at egenix.com  Fri Jun 12 13:22:03 2020
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 19:22:03 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] some requests for a meeting minuting feature on
 www.python.org
In-Reply-To: <61ac6902-5d4a-0722-399b-d09706ebd410@changeset.nyc>
References: <61ac6902-5d4a-0722-399b-d09706ebd410@changeset.nyc>
Message-ID: <643d6969-ba43-e98a-ba47-dbb1050929f8@egenix.com>

On 12.06.2020 18:30, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> I spoke with Ernest a few weeks ago about how www.python.org could
> become a better home for public minutes of meetings. So here is my
> current thinking - this is long, but I want to share it in public in
> case it helps others understand the work.

You may have noticed: the python.org website has a completely
non-working CMS. If you want to achieve collaboration, I'd strongly
suggest looking for something different (e.g. the NextCloud/OnlyOffice
idea you're floating) and focus on that.

The documents would then appear under a subdomain, but at least
there'd be proper control over who gets to edit what and, what's
really more important, enables other people than the handful with
python.org editing rights to submit content in a user friendly
way.

BTW: I may sound a bit negative on all this. That's because I
had been fighting to make python.org more user (= people providing
and maintaining content) friendly for several years without
success. If you have more luck: more power to you :-)

> Context:
> 
> Right now, www.python.org hosts the board meeting minutes
> https://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/ . We talked about
> maybe also making space for working group/project meeting minutes, like
> the ones I write up and currently host on the wiki (example:
> https://wiki.python.org/psf/PackagingWG#Dependency_resolver_and_user_experience_improvements_for_pip
> ).
> 
> In the call, Ernest asked me to list what would be important in a
> minuting package for www.python.org, distinguishing "required" from
> "heavily encouraged" to "dream features".
> 
> 
> Current workflow:
> 
> Right now, in order to minute meetings of Packaging WG-funded projects, I:
> 
> * use an Etherpad at pad.sfconservancy.org (just because it's a public
> and reliable EtherPad instance) and take notes with bullet points
> * after the meeting, use its Export function to export to plain text
> * mess with the formatting to adjust to MoinMoin wiki syntax
> * go to https://wiki.python.org/psf/PackagingWG and create a new
> placeholder link in the table of meeting notes, annotating with the
> description, type (meeting notes), and date
> * copy the text into that page, fix formatting, and hit Save
> * erase the meeting notes from the Etherpad and hyperlink to the
> archived notes
> 
> 
> What I want:
> 
> For the process in general, I have 3 core values:
> * Ease of writing: it should be easy for me and for other meeting
> attendees to collaborate on writing minutes, live, during the meeting,
> in a reasonably lightweight syntax (such as Markdown)
> * Privacy: as we write the minutes, they should be private to meeting
> attendees, so we can discuss things we then redact before sharing
> (vacations, burnout, criticism of other people or projects)
> * Transparency: the final minutes should be public where anyone can read
> them, without having to log in anywhere, and linkable
> 
> 
> As I understand it, a minuting system on www.python.org would have a
> hierarchy like PSF -> Working Group -> Project.? Example: PSF ->
> Packaging WG -> Pip dependency resolver & UX improvements.
> 
> 
> Required:
> 
> * Discoverability: the public minutes should be easy to find from a
> central project info hub, and show up in search engine results.
> * Linkability: each meeting should have some unique URL or anchor tag,
> so that it's easy to link to minutes within an issue or mailing list post.
> * Ease of formatting: some subset of HTML, Markdown, and
> reStructuredText should be supported.
> 
> 
> Heavily encouraged:
> 
> * Automated table of contents on the Project page. Should include (by
> default) date and title of meeting, and it should be possible for me to
> also manually append (maybe in a separate list) links to relevant blog
> posts, reports, podcasts, etc.
> * Automated table of contents on the Working Group page to all Projects
> underneath it.
> * Finding aid/intro: A structure on each Project page that includes a
> freeform text field but also encourages certain fields (project name,
> list of participants, estimated start and end dates).
> * Ease of formatting: Markdown support.
> * Ease of import: a batch process to import old minutes from
> wiki.python.org, even if I then have to mess with formatting.
> * Granular privileges: I'd like to let all my team members add minutes
> within our chunk of the site hierarchy.
> * Ease of sign-on: Single sign-on with other PSF systems.
> * Minutes structure: Structured text fields for meeting title, list of
> participants, discussion, and Next Steps/TODOs/Commitments.
> 
> 
> Dream:
> 
> * Ease of navigation: from a particular minutes entry, I'd love to be
> able to click Next or Previous to go to the next/previous entry within
> that project chronologically.
> * Ease of import: take an HTML import from Etherpad and strip the colors
> and other unnecessary syntax.
> * Ease of import: On some note-taking platform (could be HackMD,
> Etherpad, Dropbox Paper, Google Docs, Nextcloud, or something else), I
> could choose an option to export to a new www.python.org minute. The new
> draft would autopopulate, so I could make changes and click Publish, and
> then it would show up at the right URL and be present in a Table of
> Contents automagically.
> * Ease of formatting: support MoinMoin wiki syntax (so I can copy old
> stuff easily).
> * Ease of reporting: this is really out-there, but if I could use some
> feature to automatically pull out the top-level discussion headings from
> each minute, and make a list of "here's what we discussed", then I could
> use that when publicizing the meeting notes, and it would make people
> more likely to read them.
> * Analytics: so I could see who is linking to those notes and where
> they're being referred to.
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Experts (#1, Jun 12 2020)
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________________________________________________________________________

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From sh at changeset.nyc  Fri Jun 12 13:35:16 2020
From: sh at changeset.nyc (Sumana Harihareswara)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 13:35:16 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] some requests for a meeting minuting feature on
 www.python.org
In-Reply-To: <643d6969-ba43-e98a-ba47-dbb1050929f8@egenix.com>
References: <61ac6902-5d4a-0722-399b-d09706ebd410@changeset.nyc>
 <643d6969-ba43-e98a-ba47-dbb1050929f8@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <02938033-491c-2be3-e43e-365ff27ab9a9@changeset.nyc>

On 6/12/20 1:22 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 12.06.2020 18:30, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
>> I spoke with Ernest a few weeks ago about how www.python.org could
>> become a better home for public minutes of meetings. So here is my
>> current thinking - this is long, but I want to share it in public in
>> case it helps others understand the work.
> 
> You may have noticed: the python.org website has a completely
> non-working CMS. If you want to achieve collaboration, I'd strongly
> suggest looking for something different (e.g. the NextCloud/OnlyOffice
> idea you're floating) and focus on that.
> 
> The documents would then appear under a subdomain, but at least
> there'd be proper control over who gets to edit what and, what's
> really more important, enables other people than the handful with
> python.org editing rights to submit content in a user friendly
> way.
> 
> BTW: I may sound a bit negative on all this. That's because I
> had been fighting to make python.org more user (= people providing
> and maintaining content) friendly for several years without
> success. If you have more luck: more power to you :-)
Hi, Marc-Andre! I was probably less clear than I should have been about 
my suggested workflow:

1. Before, during, and immediately after meeting: people collaboratively 
edit agenda and notes using Etherpad, Google Docs, Nextcloud, or 
something like that
2. After meeting, once notes are finalized: someone moves them into the 
www.python.org CMS.

That second step doesn't absolutely need to be a multi-person step. The 
"Granular privileges: I'd like to let all my team members add minutes
within our chunk of the site hierarchy." item in my list was in the 
"heavily encouraged" section, not the requirements. If you would 
prioritize requirements for this feature differently I would like to 
read your remix of my list (and what project are you minuting meetings 
for? if it's a very different type than the one I've been working on 
then maybe we have different requirements).

Also, when you say "completely non-working" I'm not sure what you mean. 
I can successfully log in and edit pages, and the changes then display 
on the site. Perhaps you mean that the granularity of editing rights is 
inadequate?

I don't intend to fight anyone, but thank you for the kind wishes!

-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Changeset Consulting
https://changeset.nyc

From mal at egenix.com  Fri Jun 12 16:23:20 2020
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 22:23:20 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] some requests for a meeting minuting feature on
 www.python.org
In-Reply-To: <02938033-491c-2be3-e43e-365ff27ab9a9@changeset.nyc>
References: <61ac6902-5d4a-0722-399b-d09706ebd410@changeset.nyc>
 <643d6969-ba43-e98a-ba47-dbb1050929f8@egenix.com>
 <02938033-491c-2be3-e43e-365ff27ab9a9@changeset.nyc>
Message-ID: <710b50f1-6a52-8d15-e441-488a39058e1a@egenix.com>

On 12.06.2020 19:35, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> On 6/12/20 1:22 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 12.06.2020 18:30, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
>>> I spoke with Ernest a few weeks ago about how www.python.org could
>>> become a better home for public minutes of meetings. So here is my
>>> current thinking - this is long, but I want to share it in public in
>>> case it helps others understand the work.
>>
>> You may have noticed: the python.org website has a completely
>> non-working CMS. If you want to achieve collaboration, I'd strongly
>> suggest looking for something different (e.g. the NextCloud/OnlyOffice
>> idea you're floating) and focus on that.
>>
>> The documents would then appear under a subdomain, but at least
>> there'd be proper control over who gets to edit what and, what's
>> really more important, enables other people than the handful with
>> python.org editing rights to submit content in a user friendly
>> way.
>>
>> BTW: I may sound a bit negative on all this. That's because I
>> had been fighting to make python.org more user (= people providing
>> and maintaining content) friendly for several years without
>> success. If you have more luck: more power to you :-)
> Hi, Marc-Andre! I was probably less clear than I should have been about
> my suggested workflow:
> 
> 1. Before, during, and immediately after meeting: people collaboratively
> edit agenda and notes using Etherpad, Google Docs, Nextcloud, or
> something like that
> 2. After meeting, once notes are finalized: someone moves them into the
> www.python.org CMS.

That's a good workflow and we're using such a workflow in the EuroPython
Society - without the second step, though: we simply keep the document
open as live document for the intended audience to see. And we use
the same document for all meetings, since this is good for understanding
the history and development of how things come to be.

Editing usually starts by creating an agenda. This is then updated
during the meeting with the notes and results of the discussions /
votes.

> That second step doesn't absolutely need to be a multi-person step. The
> "Granular privileges: I'd like to let all my team members add minutes
> within our chunk of the site hierarchy." item in my list was in the
> "heavily encouraged" section, not the requirements. If you would
> prioritize requirements for this feature differently I would like to
> read your remix of my list (and what project are you minuting meetings
> for? if it's a very different type than the one I've been working on
> then maybe we have different requirements).

I've been using the above approach with a live agenda / minutes document
for many years now and in several contexts, both professionally and
when working with volunteer organizations.

It's been working really well.

What's essential is that multiple people can edit the documents
at the same time. We're using Google Docs for this, but OnlyOffice
should work just as well.

> Also, when you say "completely non-working" I'm not sure what you mean.
> I can successfully log in and edit pages, and the changes then display
> on the site. Perhaps you mean that the granularity of editing rights is
> inadequate?

Yes, you can log in and edit text, but that's where it ends. There
is no history of edits, it's not possible to revert an edit, get an
update of who edited what, there's no builtin workflow for things which
need reviews (such as success stories) and it's not easy to manage
permissions to certain areas of the website.

A true CMS covers all of the above. Google Docs and OnlyOffice
will cover most of the above, even though they are not real CMS
systems (think of Plone for example) either.

> I don't intend to fight anyone, but thank you for the kind wishes!

With "fighting" I meant that I tried to get the website fixed to
provide better CMS support running up against lots of walls along
the way. For the job board, I eventually started implementing patches
myself.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

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From dustin.wehr at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 13:35:41 2020
From: dustin.wehr at gmail.com (Dustin Wehr)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 13:35:41 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] broken link on
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonDistributions
Message-ID: <CAAOoznud-h67nOCEumWb4k+pHtBAKxXNjSWo54YGiMgCArgZSg@mail.gmail.com>

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From mats at wichmann.us  Mon Jun 15 14:50:53 2020
From: mats at wichmann.us (Mats Wichmann)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:50:53 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] broken link on
 https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonDistributions
In-Reply-To: <CAAOoznud-h67nOCEumWb4k+pHtBAKxXNjSWo54YGiMgCArgZSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAOoznud-h67nOCEumWb4k+pHtBAKxXNjSWo54YGiMgCArgZSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ba93212a-5dc0-229b-1ea9-a1b19b70717a@wichmann.us>

On 6/15/20 11:35 AM, Dustin Wehr wrote:
> For PocketPython. FrontPage says to email here to edit wiki.

You need to tell us your WikiName before it can be enabled.


From angelo at sunlightmedia.org  Mon Jun 15 19:25:49 2020
From: angelo at sunlightmedia.org (Angelo Frisina)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 16:25:49 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Training workshop
In-Reply-To: <856ecc8a-402a-71b7-f499-e49f77eb4d71@wichmann.us>
References: <020801d63c46$d916dda0$8b4498e0$@sunlightmedia.org>
 <856ecc8a-402a-71b7-f499-e49f77eb4d71@wichmann.us>
Message-ID: <05d301d6436c$4f0365c0$ed0a3140$@sunlightmedia.org>

Hi Mats,
Checking to see if this request has been published?


Angelo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mats Wichmann <mats at wichmann.us> 
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:22 AM
To: angelo at sunlightmedia.org; pydotorg-www at python.org
Subject: Re: [pydotorg-www] Training workshop

On 6/6/20 3:10 PM, Angelo Frisina via pydotorg-www wrote:
> Hi, I would like to post a training workshop to your page.
> 
> Please let me know how I can get added to the editors group.

The two items we request are:

(1) a brief note describing why you want to edit, to try to filter out
bots and spammers (you've done this)
(2) a wiki name we can actually add to the editors list.

So you need to let us know #2.



From mats at wichmann.us  Mon Jun 15 20:19:39 2020
From: mats at wichmann.us (Mats Wichmann)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:19:39 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Training workshop
In-Reply-To: <05d301d6436c$4f0365c0$ed0a3140$@sunlightmedia.org>
References: <020801d63c46$d916dda0$8b4498e0$@sunlightmedia.org>
 <856ecc8a-402a-71b7-f499-e49f77eb4d71@wichmann.us>
 <05d301d6436c$4f0365c0$ed0a3140$@sunlightmedia.org>
Message-ID: <b46e8500-7cf8-a977-71cd-9e348936b1e8@wichmann.us>

On 6/15/20 5:25 PM, Angelo Frisina wrote:
> Hi Mats,
> Checking to see if this request has been published?

you should be able to edit.


From ekaterinas at devart.com  Wed Jun 17 07:17:31 2020
From: ekaterinas at devart.com (Ekaterina Sklyarova)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 14:17:31 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Need help in editing the page ODBC Drivers
Message-ID: <72d2646e-1d00-4649-24e7-b0ad56b56e2c@devart.com>

Hello,

This is Ekaterina from Devart, a software development company.

Could you please tell me if it possible to edit the page ODBC Drivers - 
https://wiki.python.org/moin/ODBCDrivers and add our new drivers too? If 
so, kindly ask you to add these tools:

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Salesforce - https://www.devart.com/odbc/exacttarget/ 
https://www.devart.com/odbc/salesforce/

Sugar - https://www.devart.com/odbc/sugar/

xBase https://www.devart.com/odbc/xbase/

Zoho CRM - https://www.devart.com/odbc/zoho/


-- 
Best Regards,
Ekaterina Sklyarova
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From mal at egenix.com  Wed Jun 17 07:49:56 2020
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:49:56 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Need help in editing the page ODBC Drivers
In-Reply-To: <72d2646e-1d00-4649-24e7-b0ad56b56e2c@devart.com>
References: <72d2646e-1d00-4649-24e7-b0ad56b56e2c@devart.com>
Message-ID: <cd893520-3464-6d0d-c32a-ff10734e739b@egenix.com>

Hi Ekaterina,

please tell us your wiki account name and we can make you an editor.

Thanks,
-- 
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eGenix.com

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On 17.06.2020 13:17, Ekaterina Sklyarova wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> This is Ekaterina from Devart, a software development company.
> 
> Could you please tell me if it possible to edit the page ODBC Drivers -
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/ODBCDrivers? and add our new drivers too?
> If so, kindly ask you to add these tools:
> 
> Google BigQuery -? https://www.devart.com/odbc/bigquery/
> 
> MailChimp - https://www.devart.com/odbc/mailchimp/
> 
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> 
> MongoDB https://www.devart.com/odbc/mongodb/
> 
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> 
> SAP ASE / Sybase ASE - https://www.devart.com/odbc/ase/
> 
> Salesforce - https://www.devart.com/odbc/exacttarget/???
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> 
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> 
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> 
> Zoho CRM -? https://www.devart.com/odbc/zoho/
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> Ekaterina Sklyarova
> 
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
> 

From info at mdrscenter.com  Sat Jun 20 00:33:49 2020
From: info at mdrscenter.com (info at mdrscenter.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 22:33:49 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Multi-Disciplines Research and Studies Center
In-Reply-To: <20200620041038.21202.40233@virt-ys0nco.psf.osuosl.org>
Message-ID: <20200619223349.Horde.QObwylClMYmp_dAoeJAnumD@webmail-box2097.bluehost.com>


Dear Python team

I hope this email finds you well,

I have just registered in Python.org site, and I would like to edit  
the Arabic Language page to add our Multi-Disciplines Research and  
Studies Center and Modern Research Journal where we have some computer  
science articles and books, including Python Programming Language.

with best wishes

Thank you in advance and best regards,

Login Name: Dr. Moustapha Ebaid

General Manager and Chief Editor

ISSN: 2520-5250
URL: https://mdrscenter.com




From codemouse92 at outlook.com  Sat Jun 20 14:59:47 2020
From: codemouse92 at outlook.com (Jason C. McDonald)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 11:59:47 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Introduction
Message-ID: <DM6PR19MB309791618CA2E74DF265ACC4BB990@DM6PR19MB3097.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Hello!

Jason C. McDonald here, a.k.a. CodeMouse92

I need to be able to edit my personal page and
EuroPython/DiamondQuestSprint (for starters), and would generally like
to be able to contribute to the wiki.
My username is JasonMcDonald, associated with this email.

Thank you!


-- 
Jason C. McDonald
(CodeMouse92)

Author | Speaker | Hacker | Time Lord
www.indeliblebluepen.com

My PGP key is published at https://keyserver.pgp.com
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From mal at python.org  Sat Jun 20 15:02:02 2020
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 21:02:02 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Introduction
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR19MB309791618CA2E74DF265ACC4BB990@DM6PR19MB3097.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM6PR19MB309791618CA2E74DF265ACC4BB990@DM6PR19MB3097.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <f226e98d-e763-ab0f-a647-9908d6f3d0b0@python.org>

Hi Jason,

I added you to the editors. Happy editing !

Cheers,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/
http://www.malemburg.com/


On 20.06.2020 20:59, Jason C. McDonald wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Jason C. McDonald here, a.k.a. CodeMouse92
> 
> I need to be able to edit my personal page and
> EuroPython/DiamondQuestSprint (for starters), and would generally like
> to be able to contribute to the wiki.
> 
> My username is JasonMcDonald, associated with this email.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jason C. McDonald
> (CodeMouse92)
> 
> Author | Speaker | Hacker | Time Lord
> www.indeliblebluepen.com
> 
> My PGP key is published at https://keyserver.pgp.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> pydotorg-www mailing list
> pydotorg-www at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
> 



From RC at 20i.com  Mon Jun 22 10:41:21 2020
From: RC at 20i.com (Richard Chambers)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 14:41:21 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Other commercial hosts page
Message-ID: <1592836884191.68140@20i.com>

Hi Editors Group


I'd be grateful if I could add our Managed VPS<https://www.20i.com/managed-vps> and Self-Managed VPS<https://www.20i.com/vps> details to this page: https://wiki.python.org/moin/OtherCommercialHosts


My user name is Richard Chambers at this email address.


Could you give me permission to edit, please. I promise not to spam! :)


Kind regards

Richard Chambers

Marketing Manager

www.20i.com<https://www.20i.com/>

20i Ltd, Hawthorn House, Southwell Road West, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, NG21 0HJ
Registered in England & Wales. Registration number 09775671
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 11:18:28 2020
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 01:18:28 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Other commercial hosts page
In-Reply-To: <1592836884191.68140@20i.com>
References: <1592836884191.68140@20i.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmqXmRP_rpr0P7GHr2DtBKdYYWyxvyt1sEYRr9tWG+OiTg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 1:14 AM Richard Chambers <RC at 20i.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Editors Group
>
>
> I'd be grateful if I could add our Managed VPS and Self-Managed VPS details to this page: https://wiki.python.org/moin/OtherCommercialHosts
>
>
> My user name is Richard Chambers at this email address.
>

No probs! You should be able to make changes.

> Could you give me permission to edit, please. I promise not to spam! :)
>

Ooh isn't that exactly what a spammer would say though? :)

ChrisA

From dazaya2537 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 16:59:56 2020
From: dazaya2537 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4Lib4Lij4Li14Lii4Liw4LiU4LiyIOC4l+C4reC4h+C4quC4tOC4oeC4sg==?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 03:59:56 +0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] (no subject)
Message-ID: <CACV2sKKv1v4GKzCOO5d=tmacY3h-Mq+pgjr6kDzqPjRf+m7Ctg@mail.gmail.com>


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From mohd.ibrahim at cloudjiffy.com  Wed Jun 24 02:16:54 2020
From: mohd.ibrahim at cloudjiffy.com (Mohd Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 11:46:54 +0530
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Adding CloudJiffy to the Specialized Commercial
 Hosts list
Message-ID: <CAGSHF9=jri+xDuK0sjZf0-oUZMts6CDaO3O=KaaFt4_iRi8E4g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Team,

Trust you are doing well at this tough time.

I am reaching out to you to get my company added to the list of
"Specialized Commercial Hosts" page.

Please find the details of our company below:

*CloudJiffy* is a PaaS for cloud hosting based on containers. One of the
major languages supported is Python. The benefit of our platform is  as
below:

   - Automated vertical and horizontal scaling in real-time.
   - A  platform that supports automation of clustering, deployment, etc.
   - Simple UI
   - Inbuilt CDN
   - Dedicated software firewall with each instance
   - Pay-As-You-Consume pricing model
   - Presence in Germany, USA and India

Please find a link to our site <https://cloudjiffy.com/> and our video
<pydotorg-www at python.org>. Request you to please let me know the best steps
and the right way to add CloudJiffy to the trusted list of hosting
solutions for Python.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you.

Regards,

-- 

Mohamed Ibrahim

Vertical Head

CloudJiffy

Automated PaaS for cloud hosting

Mobile: +91 951 336 6676

Email ID: mohd.ibrahim at cloudjiffy.com <mohd.ibrahim at leapswitch.com>

Website: https://cloudjiffy.com <http://www.leapswitch.com>
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From jcg at quobit.net  Thu Jun 25 13:19:00 2020
From: jcg at quobit.net (=?UTF-8?B?Sm9zw6kgQ2FybG9zIEdhcmPDrWE=?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 19:19:00 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] please add me to editorsgroup
Message-ID: <CAJxg_emV_EDsE1pM9+ANXZyzF3aWHd0M4Kod+YJ_9VftytuMEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello I'm a Python Spain Association member (proof [*]) and PSF
Contributing member. I'd like to be included in the wiki editorsgroup to
edit and add some new spanish content. My account name is JoseCarlosGarcia
(my alias is quobit).

Thank you!

[*]
https://github.com/python-spain/documentacion/blame/master/actas/acta-2019-04-02.rst
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 14:11:31 2020
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 04:11:31 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] please add me to editorsgroup
In-Reply-To: <CAJxg_emV_EDsE1pM9+ANXZyzF3aWHd0M4Kod+YJ_9VftytuMEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJxg_emV_EDsE1pM9+ANXZyzF3aWHd0M4Kod+YJ_9VftytuMEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmocy8U=8VxP_ar0poOnwz8K4a=KJe3=rggDqN3W9a4Bdg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:19 AM Jos? Carlos Garc?a <jcg at quobit.net> wrote:
>
> Hello I'm a Python Spain Association member (proof [*]) and PSF Contributing member. I'd like to be included in the wiki editorsgroup to edit and add some new spanish content. My account name is JoseCarlosGarcia (my alias is quobit).
>
> Thank you!
>
> [*] https://github.com/python-spain/documentacion/blame/master/actas/acta-2019-04-02.rst (line 41)
>

Go for it! You're now an editor.

ChrisA

From mats at wichmann.us  Fri Jun 26 09:55:27 2020
From: mats at wichmann.us (Mats Wichmann)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 07:55:27 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Adding CloudJiffy to the Specialized Commercial
 Hosts list
In-Reply-To: <CAGSHF9=jri+xDuK0sjZf0-oUZMts6CDaO3O=KaaFt4_iRi8E4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGSHF9=jri+xDuK0sjZf0-oUZMts6CDaO3O=KaaFt4_iRi8E4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cc6d0105-5fb1-486e-a160-2b5087621fef@wichmann.us>

On 6/24/20 12:16 AM, Mohd Ibrahim wrote:
> Hi Team,?
> 
> Trust you are doing well at this tough time.?
> 
> I am reaching out to you to get my company added to the list of
> "Specialized Commercial Hosts" page.??
> 
> Please find the details of our company below:?
> 
> *CloudJiffy* is a PaaS for cloud hosting based on containers. One of the
> major?languages supported is Python. The benefit of our platform is? as
> below:?
> 
>   * Automated vertical and horizontal scaling in real-time.
>   * A? platform that supports automation of clustering, deployment, etc.
>   * Simple UI?
>   * Inbuilt CDN
>   * Dedicated software firewall with each instance
>   * Pay-As-You-Consume pricing model
>   * Presence in Germany, USA and India
> 
> Please find a link to our site <https://cloudjiffy.com/>?and our video
> <mailto:pydotorg-www at python.org>. Request you to please let me know the
> best steps and the right way to add CloudJiffy to the trusted list of
> hosting solutions for Python. 

You need to create an account on the wiki, and then send us another
message letting us know the wiki name, then we can set you up to edit
the page.



From mohd.ibrahim at cloudjiffy.com  Mon Jun 29 03:09:20 2020
From: mohd.ibrahim at cloudjiffy.com (Mohd Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 12:39:20 +0530
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Adding CloudJiffy to the Specialized Commercial
 Hosts list
In-Reply-To: <cc6d0105-5fb1-486e-a160-2b5087621fef@wichmann.us>
References: <CAGSHF9=jri+xDuK0sjZf0-oUZMts6CDaO3O=KaaFt4_iRi8E4g@mail.gmail.com>
 <cc6d0105-5fb1-486e-a160-2b5087621fef@wichmann.us>
Message-ID: <CAGSHF9=x2GykAOQ6ptux1HG18iaWdvvdpZ3AyW0HakGMei-Hhg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mats,

My Wiki ID is Mohamed Ibrahim. Request you to please set up my account to
edit the page.

Thank you.

Regards,
Mohamed I.
?

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 7:25 PM Mats Wichmann <mats at wichmann.us> wrote:

> On 6/24/20 12:16 AM, Mohd Ibrahim wrote:
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > Trust you are doing well at this tough time.
> >
> > I am reaching out to you to get my company added to the list of
> > "Specialized Commercial Hosts" page.
> >
> > Please find the details of our company below:
> >
> > *CloudJiffy* is a PaaS for cloud hosting based on containers. One of the
> > major languages supported is Python. The benefit of our platform is  as
> > below:
> >
> >   * Automated vertical and horizontal scaling in real-time.
> >   * A  platform that supports automation of clustering, deployment, etc.
> >   * Simple UI
> >   * Inbuilt CDN
> >   * Dedicated software firewall with each instance
> >   * Pay-As-You-Consume pricing model
> >   * Presence in Germany, USA and India
> >
> > Please find a link to our site <https://cloudjiffy.com/> and our video
> > <mailto:pydotorg-www at python.org>. Request you to please let me know the
> > best steps and the right way to add CloudJiffy to the trusted list of
> > hosting solutions for Python.
>
> You need to create an account on the wiki, and then send us another
> message letting us know the wiki name, then we can set you up to edit
> the page.
>
>
>
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