[pypy-svn] rev 1410 - pypy/trunk/doc/funding
lac at codespeak.net
lac at codespeak.net
Tue Sep 23 11:54:10 CEST 2003
Date: Tue Sep 23 11:54:10 2003
New Revision: 1410
pypy/trunk/doc/funding/B1._obj_from_badB2.txt (props changed)
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-B.2 Relevance to the objectives of the IST Priority
-Describe the manner in which the proposed project's goals address the
-scientific, technical, wider societal and policy objectives of the IST
-Priority in the areas concerned.
-(Recommended length three pages)
-This is the stuff I wrote for B2. It belongs in B1, if at all.
-I sort of like how I made the PyPy objective match the Call objective.
-That might be good to clip for B1.
-PyPy is a precise match for IST-2002-184.108.40.206 - Open development
-platforms for software and services. Its stated objective is as
- To build open development and run-time environments for software
- and services providing the next generation of methodologies,
- interoperable middleware and tools to support developers - through
- all phases of the software life-cycle, from requirements analysis
- until deployment and maintenance - in the production of networked
- and distributed software systems and services, embedded software
- and value-added user services. This will enable the development of
- future software engineering methods and tools.
-The PyPy project aims to build an flexible and fast implementation of
-the Open Source programming language Python written in itself. Python
-is a Very High Level Language, a modern tool for developing software.
-While Python is already suitable for developing software of all sizes,
-this new implementation of Python would be particularly suitable for
-the development of networked, distributed software systems, and
-embedded software. It will facilitate the development of future
-software engineering methods and tools.
-Priority is to be given to projects in which
- 'strong industrial users join forces with software and service
- suppliers in building common platforms with support of
- academic research partners'.
-This project is a collaboration between academic researchers, and
-software and service providers to produce an outcome desired by all
-industrial users. ASK_STOCKHOLM 'what's an Industrial User?' Is AB
-Strakt one? Large companies, who are not software providers, such as
-Bang and Bang & Olufsen, the Danish maker of high-end audio equipment,
-http://www.bang-olufsen.com/ have expressed interest in using PyPy
-once it is developed.
-Moreover, our project is relevant to every focus objective.
-Focus is on:
- a) High level methods and concepts (esp. at requirements and
- architectural level) for system design, development and
- integration, addressing non-functional aspects, complexity,
- autonomy and composability.
-PyPy will advance the 'state-of-the-art' in high level
-implementation of languages, introducing high level methods
-and concepts in the domain, producing a development environment
-and methods with as-yet-unmatched flexibility,
-with a new architecture for object libraries that provide for radical
-improvements in (the management of) complexity, autonomy
-(self-hosting), and composability (seamless modularity).
-ASK_STOCKHOLM DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS MORE?
- b) Open and modular development environments, enabling
- flexibility and extensibility with new or sector-specific
- tools (e.g. intelligent distributed decision support),
- supporting different adaptable development processes and
- methodologies and ensuring consistency and traceability
- across the development lifecycle.
-Flexibility is one of the primary goals of PyPy. Our new architecture
-will be the basis of a host of more flexible and extensible ways to
-create software products. PyPy will, of course, be released as
-Free/Open Source software, under the MIT license.
-FOOTNOTE: Stick MIT License in here.
-ASK_STOCKHOLM -- Am I correct? They want the thing we made to be Open
-and Modular? Or are they asking that our own way of working uses Open
-and Modular techniques? We do this as well ....
- c) Light/agile methodologies and adaptive workflow
- providing a dynamic and adaptive environment, suitable
- for co-operative and distributed development.
-Each member of the group is committed to Agile Methodologies. Some of
-us have experience with Crystal and others with XP, [FIXME add URLS
-and see if we have any more trained people on the team]two of the more
-popular ones. Moreover, since we have been active for many years in
-the Open Source community, we are already used to co-operating with
-others in a distributed development process.
-ASK_STOCKHOLM -- is this what they want, or more like this?
-AB Strakt is a young Swedish software company whose main product, CAPS
-is an adaptive workflow framework. A faster Python would seamlessly
-improve this product, and those applications which are based upon it.
-[FIXME: if we want this bit, we want to refer to the AB Strakt
- Appendix, that says that we are a cool company, and that we do
- workflow and procurement, and that we are responsible -- blah blah
- blah. I'll boast about Strakt later, or see if I can steal some
- boasts from marketing.]
- d) Open platforms, middleware and languages supporting
- standards for interoperability, composability and
- integration. (incl. e.g. P2P, GRID, autonomy, agents,
- dynamic adaptability and evolvability, context
- awareness, customer profiles). Open source middleware
- layers can facilitate rapid and broad adoption.
-PyPy is an Open Language. ASK_STOCKHOLM. So they have just asked us
-to make them a language? Or they just want us to use a language to
-make what we are making?
- In addition, related foundational research, to be implemented
- by Specific Targeted Research Projects and Coordination
- Actions, should focus on fundamental design concepts,
- systematisation of domain specifications, concurrency,
- distribution and timing, formal and quantitative analysis and
- testing tools, and future database and information system
-ASK_STOCKHOLM PyPy is Applied Research. When they say 'foundational
-research' do they want 'foundational applied research', in which case
-we can all cheer and say, here we are with a STREP, new foundational
-research in the field of specializing compilers, just what you asked
-for? Or by 'foundational research' do they mean the sort of basic
-research that has no direct applications, but goes under the heading
-'it is nice to learn stuff'?
-<arigo> Emphasis "quantitative analysis" as per WP06 and WP07 where we
-<arigo> describe PyPy as a research and comparison platform
- Work should where appropriate, enhance and complement work
- implemented under EUREKA/ITEA and in software initiatives at
- member and associated state level. The IST programme will seek
- active co-operation with ITEA in software intensive systems.
-ASK_STOCKHOLM I don't know how to find out which work implemented
-under EUREKA/ITEA was implemented using Python. I do know of 2 prior
-IST projects. FIXME: add URL for ASWAD. A faster Python will enhance
-any project done in Python. Also, if this means that EUREKA/ITEA has
-more pots of money that they would like to hand us, we'd love to take
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