[pypy-svn] r19718 - pypy/extradoc/minute
cfbolz at codespeak.net
cfbolz at codespeak.net
Thu Nov 10 16:16:51 CET 2005
Author: cfbolz
Date: Thu Nov 10 16:16:49 2005
New Revision: 19718
Added:
pypy/extradoc/minute/pypy-sync-11-10-2005.txt
Log:
pypy-sync minutes
Added: pypy/extradoc/minute/pypy-sync-11-10-2005.txt
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+=============================================
+pypy-sync developer meeting 10th November
+=============================================
+
+Time & location: 1pm (30 minutes), GMT+1 at #pypy-sync
+
+Attendees::
+
+ Armin Rigo
+ Eric van Riet Paap
+ Michael Hudson
+ Carl Friedrich Bolz (moderation & minutes)
+ Anders Lehmann
+ Anders Chrigstrom
+ Adrien diMascio
+ Bert Freudenberg
+
+
+Regular Topics
+====================
+
+- activity reports (3 prepared lines of info).
+ All Attendees submitted activity reports (see `IRC-Log`_
+ at the end and 'LAST/NEXT/BLOCKERS' entries in particular)
+
+- resolve conflicts/blockers: No blockers
+
+Topics of the week
+===================
+
+new snake server
+--------------------------
+
+Armin reported that the snake server will be replaced by something that can be put into a server room. At the moment he is making the new server ready by copying the whole hard drive of the old server over therefore he wants notification if someone changes something in his home dir on the current machine. He will tell when the new server is ready on #pypy. Everybody who wants an account (and does not have one at the moment) should send him an eMail.
+
+gothenburg sprint announcement
+------------------------------
+
+We talked (again) about possible tasks at the gothenburg sprint. The topics
+list we had discussed at a previous meeting seems fairly complete, although
+WP09 and WP10 tasks where missing. Anders L. and Adrien agreed that it would
+make more sense to tackle WP09 tasks at the sprint, maybe something like adding
+logic variables to PyPy. Armin promised to check in a new version of the topics
+today and Carl will contact Bea (who wanted to send out the announcement).
+
+
+.. _`IRC-Log`:
+
+Complete IRC log
+=================
+
+complete log::
+
+ **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 10 13:02:00 2005
+
+ Nov 10 13:02:00 * Now talking on #pypy-sync
+ Nov 10 13:02:05 cfbolz sorry
+ Nov 10 13:02:08 cfbolz shall we start?
+ Nov 10 13:02:15 arigo hi all, yes
+ Nov 10 13:02:23 arre Go ahead.
+ Nov 10 13:02:33 cfbolz ok, let's all post activity reports then!
+ Nov 10 13:02:56 arigo LAST: somepbc-refactoring branch; progress/review reports (5.1, 5.3, 5.4)
+ Nov 10 13:02:56 arigo NEXT: somepbc-refactoring branch; 5.1 review with mwh
+ Nov 10 13:02:56 arigo BLOCKERS: -
+ Nov 10 13:03:04 arre PREV: Report work, following the PBC refactoring.
+ Nov 10 13:03:04 arre NEXT: Understanding the details of the translation process (preparing for WP 8 work).
+ Nov 10 13:03:04 arre BLOCKERS: None
+ Nov 10 13:03:23 aleale PREV: reports and vacation
+ Nov 10 13:03:25 aleale NEXT: wp 9
+ Nov 10 13:03:27 aleale Blockers: -
+ Nov 10 13:03:29 ericvrp Last: browser based genjs testing (py.test --browser) + pbc's (again), Next: genjs, Blockers: -
+ Nov 10 13:03:32 mwh LAST: reports, somepbc-refactoring
+ Nov 10 13:03:32 mwh NEXT: same, visit duesseldorf
+ Nov 10 13:03:32 mwh BLOCKERS: -
+ Nov 10 13:03:39 * nik is only lurking. no activity here right now ;)
+ Nov 10 13:03:43 adim last: holiday/report
+ Nov 10 13:03:43 adim next: start thinking of WP10
+ Nov 10 13:03:43 adim blockers: none
+ Nov 10 13:03:43 bertf LAST: none NEXT: none BLOCKERS: non-pypy related
+ Nov 10 13:03:56 cfbolz LAST: report 5.3, various stuff
+ Nov 10 13:03:56 cfbolz NEXT: reports, statistics, unrelated
+ Nov 10 13:03:56 cfbolz BLOCKERS: none
+ Nov 10 13:04:26 mwh i thought hpk was going to be online by now
+ Nov 10 13:04:29 cfbolz samuele wrote to pypy-dev: Last I worked on reports (in particular 4.4) and helped with the PBC refactoring branch.
+ Nov 10 13:04:30 mwh any news from him?
+ Nov 10 13:04:47 cfbolz mwh: yes, he is totally unable to do anything usefull :-)
+ Nov 10 13:04:56 mwh i see :)
+ Nov 10 13:05:05 * adim is now known as ludal
+ Nov 10 13:05:11 ludal ast: reports
+ Nov 10 13:05:12 ludal next: none
+ Nov 10 13:05:12 ludal blockers: none
+ Nov 10 13:05:15 cfbolz mwh: he sends his greetings, though :-)
+ Nov 10 13:05:20 * ludal is now known as adim
+ Nov 10 13:05:21 arigo :-)
+ Nov 10 13:05:34 mwh :)
+ Nov 10 13:06:04 cfbolz ok, let's move on to the only topic :-)
+ Nov 10 13:06:09 cfbolz armin, would you please?
+ Nov 10 13:06:20 cfbolz New snake server
+ Nov 10 13:06:20 cfbolz ----------------
+ Nov 10 13:06:44 arigo Dusseldorf people insisted to switch to a server that looks like a server and not a desktop machine
+ Nov 10 13:07:02 cfbolz I think that is very funny :-)
+ Nov 10 13:07:05 arigo however, until I thought, it will be a bit faster and more RAMmed than the current snake, which is good
+ Nov 10 13:07:16 arigo s/until/unlike
+ Nov 10 13:07:33 mwh uni-processor?
+ Nov 10 13:07:47 arigo yes, a single hyperthreaded one like now, I think
+ Nov 10 13:07:49 arigo but I don't know
+ Nov 10 13:07:51 mwh ok
+ Nov 10 13:08:00 arigo they messed up and I installed everything on a machine which is not the one they meant for me :-/
+ Nov 10 13:08:06 arigo so we'll see
+ Nov 10 13:08:08 mwh argh :(
+ Nov 10 13:08:17 cfbolz oops
+ Nov 10 13:08:23 mwh so, timeline?
+ Nov 10 13:08:27 arigo today-tomorrow
+ Nov 10 13:08:38 arigo (anyone that wants an account on this server, just ask me)
+ Nov 10 13:09:07 mwh i take i'll have one already?
+ Nov 10 13:09:22 arigo sure, everything is copied over
+ Nov 10 13:09:27 mwh cool
+ Nov 10 13:09:31 arigo for now you can still use the existing snake,
+ Nov 10 13:09:48 arigo but tell me if you log in and make changes to your home directories in case I already did the copy
+ Nov 10 13:09:59 arigo (feel free to do that, rsync is not a problem)
+ Nov 10 13:10:20 arigo I'll mention on #pypy when the switch is about to be done and when it's finished.
+ Nov 10 13:10:27 cfbolz very good!
+ Nov 10 13:10:39 ericvrp arigo: will the passwords also be copied over?
+ Nov 10 13:10:46 arigo yes, the whole root file system
+ Nov 10 13:10:55 arigo rsync -a :-)
+ Nov 10 13:11:09 ericvrp 'kay
+ Nov 10 13:11:15 arigo (also because I don't feel like keeping SuSE on that machine :-)
+ Nov 10 13:11:44 arigo all in all it should continue to be a good machine to run and test translations on.
+ Nov 10 13:11:51 arigo (that's it for me)
+ Nov 10 13:12:12 cfbolz great
+ Nov 10 13:12:15 cfbolz any other topics?
+ Nov 10 13:12:24 mwh gtbg sprint announcement?
+ Nov 10 13:12:30 cfbolz indeed
+ Nov 10 13:12:39 cfbolz arigo: did bea answer?
+ Nov 10 13:13:00 arigo I didn't mail her so far
+ Nov 10 13:13:09 cfbolz oh, I see
+ Nov 10 13:13:20 arigo we first need to detail the technical goals a bit more, I guess
+ Nov 10 13:13:43 cfbolz does it make sense to talk about that now
+ Nov 10 13:13:44 cfbolz ?
+ Nov 10 13:14:26 arigo http://codespeak.net/svn/pypy/extradoc/sprintinfo/gothenburg-2005/announcement.txt
+ Nov 10 13:14:36 arigo is this like reasonable / complete ?
+ Nov 10 13:15:11 cfbolz I guess one question is whether lobilab/dfki guys want to work on their workpackages
+ Nov 10 13:15:29 mwh reasonable, yes
+ Nov 10 13:15:32 mwh complete, no idea
+ Nov 10 13:15:45 adim cfbolz: could be a godd idea I guess
+ Nov 10 13:16:13 arigo but the details are still to be discussed, I gather?
+ Nov 10 13:16:23 cfbolz probably yes
+ Nov 10 13:16:37 cfbolz I guess it should be mentioned in the announcement
+ Nov 10 13:16:55 cfbolz there might be people interested in semantic web/logic stuff
+ Nov 10 13:17:00 mwh "* kick off WP09 implementation" ?
+ Nov 10 13:17:07 adim yes
+ Nov 10 13:17:11 arigo WP9 specifically? not WP10?
+ Nov 10 13:17:18 mwh arigo: i forget :)
+ Nov 10 13:17:21 adim (detailint what is WP09 and 10)
+ Nov 10 13:17:25 mwh yes
+ Nov 10 13:17:48 mwh the wp number -> title mapping isn't something i've ever been able to remember
+ Nov 10 13:17:59 cfbolz mwh: you get used to it :-)
+ Nov 10 13:18:10 aleale WP 9 logic programming /Semantic web
+ Nov 10 13:18:27 mwh cfbolz: apparently not
+ Nov 10 13:18:40 aleale WP 10 AOP /contracts
+ Nov 10 13:18:49 mwh aleale: i see
+ Nov 10 13:19:16 arigo so any more insights about which one you'd like to focus on, or just both?
+ Nov 10 13:19:42 aleale I am focusing on WP9
+ Nov 10 13:19:46 adim maybe more WP09
+ Nov 10 13:20:13 adim (I should check with Ludovic first, though)
+ Nov 10 13:20:35 cfbolz could you do that today?
+ Nov 10 13:21:02 adim cfbolz: don't think he'll come here today
+ Nov 10 13:21:10 adim but I'll try
+ Nov 10 13:21:17 arigo WP09 Task 1 talks about porting Logilab's python-logic libraries to PyPy. Should we mention that in the announcement?
+ Nov 10 13:21:20 adim just put WP09 on the sprint announcement
+ Nov 10 13:21:51 arigo or do you want to focus on issues like putting logic variables in the Python language?
+ Nov 10 13:22:13 adim I guess the latter is probably a better idea for the sprint
+ Nov 10 13:22:24 adim aleale: your opinion ?
+ Nov 10 13:22:41 arigo let's use conditionals in the announcement
+ Nov 10 13:22:52 cfbolz :-)
+ Nov 10 13:22:54 adim :)
+ Nov 10 13:22:55 aleale I agree - that is the first step
+ Nov 10 13:23:44 arigo * (WP09) Experiment with logic programming in Python. A
+ Nov 10 13:23:44 arigo first step might be to try to add logic variables to PyPy.
+ Nov 10 13:23:51 adim ok for me
+ Nov 10 13:23:54 mwh sounds good!
+ Nov 10 13:24:12 cfbolz to me too
+ Nov 10 13:24:28 arigo ok, I can expand a bit the other topics of the announcement too
+ Nov 10 13:25:10 mwh and presumably there's going to some copying and pasting from other announcements
+ Nov 10 13:25:18 cfbolz probably
+ Nov 10 13:25:26 cfbolz I guess we should check with bea nonetheless
+ Nov 10 13:25:55 cfbolz arigo: I can do that, if you want
+ Nov 10 13:26:11 arigo ok, thanks
+ Nov 10 13:26:31 cfbolz and we should really try to send it out tomorrow...
+ Nov 10 13:26:40 arigo indeed
+ Nov 10 13:26:55 cfbolz arigo: would you try to update the topics today?
+ Nov 10 13:27:42 arigo yes
+ Nov 10 13:27:55 cfbolz ok. fine if we close the meeting ?
+ Nov 10 13:28:00 adim fine with me
+ Nov 10 13:28:04 arigo yes
+ Nov 10 13:28:33 mwh yes
+ Nov 10 13:28:34 aleale ok, see you
+ Nov 10 13:28:37 mwh bye
+ Nov 10 13:28:40 adim see you
+ Nov 10 13:28:43 cfbolz see you!
+ Nov 10 13:28:44 * adim (n=adim at logilab.net2.nerim.net) has left #pypy-sync
+ Nov 10 13:28:47 * aleale (n=chatzill at 83.72.68.168.ip.tele2adsl.dk) has left #pypy-sync
+ Nov 10 13:28:53 * arre (i=ac at kourier.strakt.com) has left #pypy-sync
+ Nov 10 13:28:54 arigo bye!
+ Nov 10 13:28:57 * arigo (n=arigo at c-058b70d5.022-54-67626719.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has left #pypy-sync
+ Nov 10 13:29:01 * bertf has quit ()
+ Nov 10 13:29:04 * nik (n=chatzill at 2.68.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch) has left #pypy-sync
+ Nov 10 13:29:23 ericvrp bye
+ Nov 10 13:29:25 * ericvrp (n=ericvrp at ericvrp.demon.nl) has left #pypy-sync
+ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 10 13:30:11 2005
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