[pypy-svn] r80362 - pypy/extradoc/talk/ustour2011

[lac at codespeak.net]

Author: lac
Date: Sat Feb 19 04:51:03 2011
New Revision: 80362

Added:
   pypy/extradoc/talk/ustour2011/dropbox.txt   (contents, props changed)
Log:
Begin with google abstract, take out Maciej, add some points based on Rian
Hunter's mail.  Points need tightening up -- they are more for 'make sure
we address these issues' than anything else.


Added: pypy/extradoc/talk/ustour2011/dropbox.txt
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+Talk at Dropbox.  Friday March 4th at 2 p.m.
+Speaker: Armin Rigo
+
+Bio:
+Armin Rigo is a researcher at Heinrich-Heine-Universität in Düsseldorf,
+Germany.  His academic interests include Programming Languages and
+Implementation Techniques.
+
+He is the lead designer of the PyPy project and one of its
+original founders.  He is also the author of Psyco, a hand-coded
+Just-in-Time specializing compiler for Python, which can be used
+transparently with 32-bit x86 versions of CPython.  Since 2003 he has
+worked on all aspects of PyPy: its Python interpreter (written in
+Python), its translation toolchain (which produces C code), its
+garbage collectors, and its Tracing Just-in-Time compiler generator.
+Since the end of 2010, the Just in Time compiler generated by PyPy
+has outperformed Psyco, while being much more general and robust.
+
+Abstract:
+The PyPy project has recently gathered a lot of attention for its
+progress in speeding up the Python language -- it is the fastest,
+most compatible and most stable 'alternative´ Python interpreter.  No
+longer merely a research curiosity, PyPy is now suitable for production
+use.  Since 2009, the PyPy project has received funding from the Eurostars 
+Eureka program, which targets small European firms which produce research.
+(See: http://www.eurostars-eureka.eu/)
+
+This talk will being with an introduction to PyPy and then a more detailed
+discussion of what we have accomplished with the past two years' work in 
+the area of dynamic (Just-in-Time) interpreters.  We have had some very
+useful comments from Rian Hunter about areas of interest to dropbox, and
+we will finally discuss those bits which weren't already discussed.:
+
+* PyPy - the architecture XXX expand this
+
+* most Python benchmarks run much faster than with CPython or Psyco
+  "10x speedup in the average case for a tight loop in python"
+  speed.pypy.org
+* the real-world PyPy compiler toolchain itself (200 KLocs) runs twice as fast
+* already supports 64bit and is in the process of supporting ARM
+* full compatibility with  CPython (more than Jython/IronPython)
+* full (and JIT-ed) ctypes support to call C libraries from Python
+* supports Stackless Python (in-progress)
+* new "cpyext" layer which integrates existing CPython C extensions
+* an experimental super-fast JIT-compilation of calls to C++ libraries
+*A memory conservative JIT in steady state i.e. python right now  
+requires about 10MB of steady-state memory (all bytecodes / loaded  
+modules) not counting app usage. how much will that overhead increase  
+when using pypy? 
+     Maemo experiments.
+     Things we have done to shrink the memory usage.
+     But its huge now, anyway, because of the JIT.
+     What could be done to change this.
+     And do you really care about absolute size?  Or just that it can
+     scale and doesn't grow without bounds?
+
+* MIT license "so we can modify the runtime to generate obfuscated  
+pyc files" -- if your business really depends on obsfuscated code, and
+reverse engineering is a real worry for you, then we can do much better
+with pypy than what you are doing now.  (Anto cracked it already)
+
+*Compatibility with the major python executable packagers, py2exe,  
+py2app, and bfreeze (in that order)
+We're not going to embed a Cpython stub into an exe as py2exe does.
+We can produce executables with the python files embedded.  A PyPy packager.
+what it would look like.  What would be its advantages?
+
+*Future directions (what to do when Eurostars funding runs out)
+re: "The engineering resources to migrate won't require >1 month of work"
+-- one option is to hire us to do the migration.
+
+
+*Any other aspect of interest to audience members.  We already got a nice 
+start on understanding your interests through a list of questons from
+Rian Hunter.  But if anybody else has ideas about what they would like
+us to speak about, (or if Rian gets some more ideas) could  they please
+send a note to lac at openend.se and we will make sure that we cover this
+in our presentation.
+
+The PyPy project has a blog which may be of interest.  You can read
+it at http://morepypy.blogspot.com/ .
+