[pypy-dev] repository access

holger krekel hpk at trillke.net
Sat Feb 15 20:44:33 CET 2003

Hi Christian,

[Christian Tismer Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 07:56:31PM +0100]
> holger krekel wrote:
> > [Armin Rigo Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 03:29:00AM -0800]
> > 
> >>Hello everybody,
> >>
> >>On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 10:05:03AM +0100, holger krekel wrote:
> >>
> >>>client.  I've heard that installing it is not too obvious 
> >>>from the http://subversion.tigris.org website so if you
> >>>succeed installing it on your system, success stories
> >>>are certainly welcome.
> >>
> >>In my opinion, they have a bootstrapping problem.  The easy instructions tell
> >>you to download a source tarball, compile it, and use it to checkout the
> >>latest sources from their own repository.  Fine.  The sources are 6.7MB (my
> >>poor modem line), which is not a problem per se.  But once you have built your
> >>client, you realize that the instructions tell you to use the damn thing to
> >>checkout the whole source tree into a *new* directory -- 6.7MB again!  It
> >>won't download just the differences because the original tarball was not a
> >>checked-out working directory in the first place :-((
> >>
> >>When you must download 6.7MB and trash them immediately, I say the
> >>bootstrapping procedure is bad bad bad :-(   Let's hope pypy will eventually
> >>bootstrap without asking users to download CPython first!
> What I read about installing subversion really makes
> me wonder whether it would be easier for everybody
> to stick with plain old CVS? I use it all day and
> could work immediately.

If we don't try it at the sprint it is likely to be
postponed for a long time, i guess.  If installation is
the only serious barrier then we should still try it IMO. 
We can switch anytime to cvs if we face serious difficulties. 



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