[pypy-dev] pypy with sympy

Laura Creighton lac at openend.se
Sat Sep 15 16:05:41 CEST 2007


In a message of Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:17:34 +0200, "Ondrej Certik" writes:
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>So what is your priority now with pypy? I think it has such an
>enormous potential, but currently for me it's just a playground. Do
>you plan to apply pypy in some area, where people will use it as the
>best technology available in there? Or do you plan more to have pypy
>just as a means of testing new JIT ideas?
>
>Ondrej

We really want to push this as a real language that people should use
to solve real problems they have.  Currently, however, things are in
a bad need of a cleanup.  While it was terrific to have the EU
funding which let many of us work on pypy full time, the deadlines
for deliverables were such that many things were hacked together in
ways that are ok for a prototype but not really robust enough for
production use.  We are planning our next sprint to work on the roughest
of these.

Then, of course, the problem is that there are so many things that 
could be the 'next step' for PyPy.  Some of us (me for instance) are
actively looking for paying customers who have a business case for
wanting PyPy to do X.  Tim Parkin, who designed the current python.org
site is also interested in working on finding out what should be the
next step for PyPy.  He is collecting opinions, and people who are
willing to put money where their mouth is here: 
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyPyDonations

It would be nice to get PyPy to such a state that it again had many
tasks for those people who don't feel up to hacking the Just in Time
Specialiser.  A better garbage collector is necessary, but I think that
people find that intimidating as well.  We're much further along with the 
new scheme for working with C extensions, and that too is necessary.

It would be nice to find out exactly who wants what next from PyPy,
and perhaps more importantly, who would be willing to help on PyPy,
but cannot now, and what they would need in the way of changes before
they could contribute.  Besides fixes for the bugs you have reported,
is there anything in particular you wish we were doing next?

Laura




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