[pypy-dev] Change to the frontpage of speed.pypy.org

[Miquel Torres]

Ok, I'll try that then.

> There is nothing to the right of the table.
What is your screen width?
The Revision info box should be below the table if your width is small.



2011/2/27 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>:
> In a message of Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:36:52 +0100, Miquel Torres writes:
>>Hi Laura,
>>
>>you bring up good points, however, it is not as straight forward as it se
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>
>>Well, it really is a list of the latest results. The problem is that
>>speed.pypy.org is foremost a tool to help in development. As such, the
>>logic behind the "latest results" list is regression oriented, or let
>>us say pessimistic.
>>
>>For example, this revision:
>>http://speed.pypy.org/changes/?rev=3D42312:392bbf936179
>>
>>The average change is actually -0.91%, which is actually an
>>improvement, though not an statistical significant one. However, There
>>was a sizeable regression in spitfire_cstringio, +5.21. The "summary"
>>for that revision is then "regression for an individual benchmark".
>>Which is actually what developers need to know: they should check
>>whether that revision really introduced a real regression in
>>performance.
>
> I understand this.  I just don't think that this should be on our
> front page.   Developers can get used to looking anywhere, and indeed
> I never use the front page for looking at anything important -- I am
> always looking at the complete stats for any runs.
>
> I think that speed.pypy.org -- the front page -- should primarily be
> of use to people who want to find out if pypy is good for them, people
> who want to convince their bosses that they should switch, and people
> who just want to cheer us on and add to the general warm feeling
> about pypy.  I see it as the prime tool in the world domination
> project.
>
>>That said, I do understand where you are coming from. I would point
>>outsiders though directly to http://speed.pypy.org/comparison/
>
> This is the wrong way to do things from a usability point of view.
> What the casual person wants is not a way to dig down and get information,
> but something already packaged for them which already tells them
> the main story.  Then they can dig down if they actually care.  This is
> what Steve Krug calls the 'Don't Make Me Think' principle.
>
>>So what can some body think about what could be changed or added so
>>that the main page doesn't give a negative impression to the
>>non-developer?
>>
>>Something I could think of is to add, above the results list, a plot
>>showing the overall trend over the last 2 or 3 months. What do you
>>think?
>
> I think this would be a very nice thing to have as the home page for
> speed.pypy.org  Then the page that we have now could be called something
> like http://speed.pypy.org/regressions or something.
>
>>> The other thing I want is for the graphs you get, for instance with
>>> http://speed.pypy.org/changes/?rev=3D42312:392bbf936179&exe=3D%203&env=
>>3D=
>>tannit
>>> to have, in addition to the selection button beside: 'result for revisi
>>on=
>>'
>>> an actual label that says 'build 42312:392b' or something that you
>>> can select with your mouse and use to paste into things like this mail
>>> article.
>>
>>I think to the right of the changes table there is a box with info for
>>the revision, with a text field you can select and copy. Isn't that
>>what you want?
>
> Looking at http://speed.pypy.org/changes/?rev=42312:392bbf936179&exe=%203&env=tannit
>
> There is nothing to the right of the table.  To the right of the label
> that says: Results for revision  is a box that you can use to select different
> builds to look at.  The text in this box is not selectable; you cannot
> paste it anywhere.  To the right of that is a link that says 'Permalink'.
> As far as I can tell clicking it causes the page to refresh and nothing
> more.
>
> This is with iceweasel 3.5.16 (which is debian's repackage of firefox
> 3.5.16)
>
> Laura
>
>