[pypy-dev] Bitbucket? Why not python.org

[Christian Tismer]

On 6/26/11 12:27 PM, holger krekel wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 17:51 +0200, Christian Tismer wrote:
>> On 6/22/11 7:30 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
>>> 2011/6/22 Christian Tismer<tismer at stackless.com>:
>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>
>>>> the subject line says it all...
>>>>
>>>> I'm in the progress of updating stackless to use mercurial on
>>>> python.org and talked to Martin v. Loewis who pointed out
>>>> the restrictions of Bitbucket.
>>>> Besides the impression that Bitbucket is pretty slow, it is also not
>>>> possible to add our own hooks to it.
>>> The impression that Bitbucket is slow? What does that mean? I don't
>>> find python.org any faster than Bitbucket.
>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure python.org would be happy to host PyPy.
>>>> Is there any good reason why we don't ask and move to python.org?
>>> I didn't do the mercurial transition, but I'm pretty happy with bitbucket.
>> This is no answer but an opinion ;-)
>>
>> I was asking why we don't use python.org instead of bitbucket.
> I don't remember any big comparison analysis. Some people
> pushed for bitbucket, a number was using it already, and the others
> didn't mind.  The main effort and focus was on the conversion of the
> svn repository, anyway.
>
>> Before, we had codespeak.net which was very convenient because
>> I knew all relevant people in person.
> We have some personal contacts to bitbucket - they actually sponsor an
> unlimited plan for PyPy.  Moreover, some pypy devs wanted a hosting
> solution where we do not depend on private connects or work but can
> rather rely on a company basing their business on such hosting.
>

Well, I understand that all.
Maybe I was implicitly assuming that everybody felt like me:
It is an honor for Stackless Python to live on python.org, and
probably also a positive sign, like some acceptance by core python.

That made me wonder. If I had a chance to use python.org instead
of anything else, I'd always prefer python.org, unless it has a significant
drawback, or they told me "no, go somewhere else" ;-)
>> Python used sourceforge before, but preferred to have the freedom
>> to host their data themselves.
>> By using python.org, PyPy would have similar convenience as
>> before.
>> Therefore my question: What makes bitbucket the better choice over
>> python.org, despite free t-shirts?  (which might be an important reason
>> for some :-) )
> PyPy has by now quite some integration code wrt to bitbucket.
> It seems all are quite happy with bitbucket services as it stands.
> So seen from now the question probably rather is why we should
> move anywhere else.

Well, as said, I see a positive political effect in moving to python.org
that I (personally) would not underestimate.
But PyPy is maybe popular enough that my point doesn't really exist,
or even vice versa - maybe the distinction is even welcome. ;-)

cheers - chris

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