Hi Ronny,
I heard you are very knowledgeable on hg and helped pypy
quite a lot. May I ask you for some help for stackless as well?
Are you on the stackless list?
Well, I'll contact you directly.
cheers - chris
On 6/27/11 7:40 AM, Ronny Pfannschmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> having a synced repo on python.org might be a help
> however i wouldn't want push-permission handling there,
> since we are probably a bit ore lax about giving new talents access to
> the repo.
>
> Simply having a synced repo on pythong.org might have a better effect
> for visibility.
>
> -- Ronny
>
> On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 12:21 +0000, holger krekel wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 13:37 +0200, Christian Tismer wrote:
>>> On 6/26/11 12:27 PM, holger krekel wrote:
>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 17:51 +0200, Christian Tismer wrote:
>>>>> On 6/22/11 7:30 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
>>>>>> 2011/6/22 Christian Tismer<tismer at stackless.com>:
>>>>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the subject line says it all...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm in the progress of updating stackless to use mercurial on
>>>>>>> python.org and talked to Martin v. Loewis who pointed out
>>>>>>> the restrictions of Bitbucket.
>>>>>>> Besides the impression that Bitbucket is pretty slow, it is also not
>>>>>>> possible to add our own hooks to it.
>>>>>> The impression that Bitbucket is slow? What does that mean? I don't
>>>>>> find python.org any faster than Bitbucket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure python.org would be happy to host PyPy.
>>>>>>> Is there any good reason why we don't ask and move to python.org?
>>>>>> I didn't do the mercurial transition, but I'm pretty happy with bitbucket.
>>>>> This is no answer but an opinion ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I was asking why we don't use python.org instead of bitbucket.
>>>> I don't remember any big comparison analysis. Some people
>>>> pushed for bitbucket, a number was using it already, and the others
>>>> didn't mind. The main effort and focus was on the conversion of the
>>>> svn repository, anyway.
>>>>
>>>>> Before, we had codespeak.net which was very convenient because
>>>>> I knew all relevant people in person.
>>>> We have some personal contacts to bitbucket - they actually sponsor an
>>>> unlimited plan for PyPy. Moreover, some pypy devs wanted a hosting
>>>> solution where we do not depend on private connects or work but can
>>>> rather rely on a company basing their business on such hosting.
>>>>
>>> Well, I understand that all.
>>> Maybe I was implicitly assuming that everybody felt like me:
>>> It is an honor for Stackless Python to live on python.org, and
>>> probably also a positive sign, like some acceptance by core python.
>>>
>>> That made me wonder. If I had a chance to use python.org instead
>>> of anything else, I'd always prefer python.org, unless it has a significant
>>> drawback, or they told me "no, go somewhere else" ;-)
>>>>> Python used sourceforge before, but preferred to have the freedom
>>>>> to host their data themselves.
>>>>> By using python.org, PyPy would have similar convenience as
>>>>> before.
>>>>> Therefore my question: What makes bitbucket the better choice over
>>>>> python.org, despite free t-shirts? (which might be an important reason
>>>>> for some :-) )
>>>> PyPy has by now quite some integration code wrt to bitbucket.
>>>> It seems all are quite happy with bitbucket services as it stands.
>>>> So seen from now the question probably rather is why we should
>>>> move anywhere else.
>>> Well, as said, I see a positive political effect in moving to python.org
>>> that I (personally) would not underestimate.
>> I agree, it would have this positive political effect so that is clearly
>> on the pro side. It did when i moved the mailing lists to mail.python.org.
>>
>> For what i know, we are welcome to move our repositories to python.org.
>>
>>> But PyPy is maybe popular enough that my point doesn't really exist,
>>> or even vice versa - maybe the distinction is even welcome. ;-)
>> Heh, dunno. At this stage it would cause some pain but not much technical
>> gain to again move somewhere else. And i think a number of pypy devs
>> are happy with not having to care or think about infrastructure issues
>> or change of dev habits.
>>
>> cheers,
>> holger
>>
>>
>>
>> holger
>>
>>> cheers - chris
>>>
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