[pypy-dev] Question

[Ram Rachum]

I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I
wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour
trying to deal with those.

I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.

Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8
times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to
make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an
installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on Ubuntu
> 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you to try.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to
>> python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on
>> scripts.
>>
>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up
>> at this point. Thanks for your help.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for
>>> some other Python packages.
>>>
>>>
>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> pypy -m pip works
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's
>>>>>  brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY
>>>>>  DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries
>>>>>  for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45
>>>>>  mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the
>>>>>  source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put
>>>>>  something like this in my .bashrc:
>>>>>
>>>>>  for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do
>>>>>  alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin
>>>>>  done
>>>>>
>>>>>  # Laziness
>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c"
>>>>>  # it was either that or:
>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp
>>>>>  y-c"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on
>>>>>>  windows).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to
>>>>>>  launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do
>>>>>>  I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in
>>>>>>>  site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Things I don't care about so much right now:
>>>>>>>>   - How fast PyPy runs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Things I care a lot about right now:
>>>>>>>>   - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py
>>>>>>>>>>  ,
>>>>>>>>>>  how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>>>>>
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> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your
> program. Something’s wrong.
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