[pypy-dev] Question

Thu Jun 11 20:43:59 CEST 2015

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus
> Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the
> everything.
>

*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)

>
> I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very
> easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if
> you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>
>> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I
>> wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour
>> trying to deal with those.
>>
>> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
>>
>> Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8
>> times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to
>> make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an
>> installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on
>>> Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you
>>> to try.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to
>>>> python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on
>>>> scripts.
>>>>
>>>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given
>>>> up at this point. Thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for
>>>>> some other Python packages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@
>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pypy -m pip works
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's
>>>>>>>  brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY
>>>>>>>  DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries
>>>>>>>  for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45
>>>>>>>  mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the
>>>>>>>  source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put
>>>>>>>  something like this in my .bashrc:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do
>>>>>>>  alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin
>>>>>>>  done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  # Laziness
>>>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c"
>>>>>>>  # it was either that or:
>>>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp
>>>>>>>  y-c"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on
>>>>>>>>  windows).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to
>>>>>>>>  launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do
>>>>>>>>  I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in
>>>>>>>>>  site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Things I don't care about so much right now:
>>>>>>>>>>   - How fast PyPy runs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Things I care a lot about right now:
>>>>>>>>>>   - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py
>>>>>>>>>>>>  ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>  how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>> Ryan
>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your
>>> program. Something’s wrong.
>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Ryan
> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your
> program. Something’s wrong.
> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>
>

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