[pypy-dev] Question

Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarlwin at gmail.com
Thu Jun 11 21:13:51 CEST 2015


Have you tried portable pypy ? https://github.com/squeaky-pl/portable-pypy
it works for me , in every linuxes.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:

> When you use the ppa, where will nosetests be located?
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pypy/ppa
>> sudo apt-get update
>>
>>
>>
>> On June 11, 2015 1:54:55 PM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
>>>>
>>>> From there I just make a virtualenv with:
>>>>
>>>> $ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy
>>>>
>>>> (Can't remember if it's -P or -p)
>>>>
>>>> Once activated, just running pip works fine for me.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Got this error when running make:
>>>>>
>>>>> [translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err="""
>>>>> [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18:
>>>>> fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory
>>>>> [translation:ERROR]  #include <zlib.h>
>>>>> [translation:ERROR]                   ^
>>>>> [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated.
>>>>> [translation:ERROR] """)
>>>>> [translation] start debugger...
>>>>> >
>>>>> /home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library()
>>>>> -> raise last_error
>>>>> (Pdb+)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even
>>>>>>> Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in
>>>>>>> the everything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was
>>>>>>> actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to
>>>>>>> know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython
>>>>>>> would be suicide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors
>>>>>>>> that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting
>>>>>>>> another hour trying to deal with those.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making
>>>>>>>> PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more
>>>>>>>> effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why
>>>>>>>> isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm
>>>>>>>> just ranting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're
>>>>>>>>> on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for
>>>>>>>>> you to try.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message
>>>>>>>>>> to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on
>>>>>>>>>> scripts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've
>>>>>>>>>> given up at this point. Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that
>>>>>>>>>>> works for some other Python packages.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@
>>>>>>>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> pypy -m pip works
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  something like this in my .bashr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  c:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  # Laziness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  # it was either that or:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  y-c"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  windows).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Things I don't care about so much right now:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - How fast PyPy runs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Things I care a lot about right now:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com <rymg19 at gmail.com>> wrote: Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com <ram at rachum.com>> wrote: When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py <http://get-pip.py> , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?------------------------------ pypy-dev mai
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than
>>>>>>>>> your program. Something’s wrong.
>>>>>>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your
>>>>>>> program. Something’s wrong.
>>>>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your
>>>>>> program. Something’s wrong.
>>>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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