From asottile+pytest at umich.edu  Tue May  4 12:33:19 2021
From: asottile+pytest at umich.edu (Anthony Sottile)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 09:33:19 -0700
Subject: [pytest-dev] pytest 6.2.4 has been released!
Message-ID: <CA+dzEBnGiPXc61BvXMvgyV-YZ2ern+2-xDptqB21Swrbng=bpQ@mail.gmail.com>

pytest-6.2.4
=======================================

pytest 6.2.4 has just been released to PyPI.

This is a bug-fix release, being a drop-in replacement. To upgrade::

  pip install --upgrade pytest

The full changelog is available at
https://docs.pytest.org/en/stable/changelog.html.

Thanks to all of the contributors to this release:

* Anthony Sottile
* Bruno Oliveira
* Christian Maurer
* Florian Bruhin
* Ran Benita


Happy testing,
The pytest Development Team

From likid.geimfari at gmail.com  Wed May  5 18:58:33 2021
From: likid.geimfari at gmail.com (Likid)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 01:58:33 +0300
Subject: [pytest-dev] Pytest Dev Team Joining Request: pytest-mimesis
Message-ID: <CAEiGKuOi+=MtY50GYqm4Q1DM0w3ZGUi4BrZMbB1UjWWNekpGXg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi! My name is Isaak. I?m the author of Mimesis
<https://github.com/lk-geimfari/mimesis> and
https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest-mimesis. I would like to join
pytest-dev organization on Github, so I can work on pytest-mimesis
directly. Also, I would like to contribute to other pytest plugins.

As I know, anyone who contributed to pytest can join the dev team
<https://docs.pytest.org/en/6.2.x/contributing.html#joining-the-development-team>,
so I hope I can do it too.

Thank you all!
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From nicoddemus at gmail.com  Thu May  6 06:48:05 2021
From: nicoddemus at gmail.com (Bruno Oliveira)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 07:48:05 -0300
Subject: [pytest-dev] Pytest Dev Team Joining Request: pytest-mimesis
In-Reply-To: <CAEiGKuOi+=MtY50GYqm4Q1DM0w3ZGUi4BrZMbB1UjWWNekpGXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEiGKuOi+=MtY50GYqm4Q1DM0w3ZGUi4BrZMbB1UjWWNekpGXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+RQFfdt3rjc62TLFB7YYf1hS6bgubHrK8KOcdNHZ+R-zeX9qA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Isaak!

As the author of pytest-mimesis, you are certainly welcome to join the
organization. Is your GitHub handle lk-geimfari?

Cheers,

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 7:59 PM Likid <likid.geimfari at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi! My name is Isaak. I?m the author of Mimesis
> <https://github.com/lk-geimfari/mimesis> and
> https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest-mimesis. I would like to join
> pytest-dev organization on Github, so I can work on pytest-mimesis
> directly. Also, I would like to contribute to other pytest plugins.
>
> As I know, anyone who contributed to pytest can join the dev team
> <https://docs.pytest.org/en/6.2.x/contributing.html#joining-the-development-team>,
> so I hope I can do it too.
>
> Thank you all!
> _______________________________________________
> pytest-dev mailing list
> pytest-dev at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pytest-dev
>
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From likid.geimfari at gmail.com  Thu May  6 07:43:27 2021
From: likid.geimfari at gmail.com (Likid)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 14:43:27 +0300
Subject: [pytest-dev] Pytest Dev Team Joining Request: pytest-mimesis
In-Reply-To: <CA+RQFfdt3rjc62TLFB7YYf1hS6bgubHrK8KOcdNHZ+R-zeX9qA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEiGKuOi+=MtY50GYqm4Q1DM0w3ZGUi4BrZMbB1UjWWNekpGXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+RQFfdt3rjc62TLFB7YYf1hS6bgubHrK8KOcdNHZ+R-zeX9qA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEiGKuPjW9z=vg1=o_1K7YzLSBNtGDf=qNoFiaHGjeRnOcK-zA@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, it is. Thanks you very much!

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:48 PM Bruno Oliveira <nicoddemus at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Isaak!
>
> As the author of pytest-mimesis, you are certainly welcome to join the
> organization. Is your GitHub handle lk-geimfari?
>
> Cheers,
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 7:59 PM Likid <likid.geimfari at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi! My name is Isaak. I?m the author of Mimesis
>> <https://github.com/lk-geimfari/mimesis> and
>> https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest-mimesis. I would like to join
>> pytest-dev organization on Github, so I can work on pytest-mimesis
>> directly. Also, I would like to contribute to other pytest plugins.
>>
>> As I know, anyone who contributed to pytest can join the dev team
>> <https://docs.pytest.org/en/6.2.x/contributing.html#joining-the-development-team>,
>> so I hope I can do it too.
>>
>> Thank you all!
>> _______________________________________________
>> pytest-dev mailing list
>> pytest-dev at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pytest-dev
>>
>
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From nicoddemus at gmail.com  Thu May  6 09:01:09 2021
From: nicoddemus at gmail.com (Bruno Oliveira)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 10:01:09 -0300
Subject: [pytest-dev] Pytest Dev Team Joining Request: pytest-mimesis
In-Reply-To: <CAEiGKuPjW9z=vg1=o_1K7YzLSBNtGDf=qNoFiaHGjeRnOcK-zA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEiGKuOi+=MtY50GYqm4Q1DM0w3ZGUi4BrZMbB1UjWWNekpGXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+RQFfdt3rjc62TLFB7YYf1hS6bgubHrK8KOcdNHZ+R-zeX9qA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAEiGKuPjW9z=vg1=o_1K7YzLSBNtGDf=qNoFiaHGjeRnOcK-zA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+RQFfeHSrywAyvv3bPb9bD8DMAKjFZT6DJL5mRVkY=EaaUP5A@mail.gmail.com>

Invitation sent!

Cheers,
Bruno

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 8:43 AM Likid <likid.geimfari at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, it is. Thanks you very much!
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:48 PM Bruno Oliveira <nicoddemus at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Isaak!
>>
>> As the author of pytest-mimesis, you are certainly welcome to join the
>> organization. Is your GitHub handle lk-geimfari?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 7:59 PM Likid <likid.geimfari at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi! My name is Isaak. I?m the author of Mimesis
>>> <https://github.com/lk-geimfari/mimesis> and
>>> https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest-mimesis. I would like to join
>>> pytest-dev organization on Github, so I can work on pytest-mimesis
>>> directly. Also, I would like to contribute to other pytest plugins.
>>>
>>> As I know, anyone who contributed to pytest can join the dev team
>>> <https://docs.pytest.org/en/6.2.x/contributing.html#joining-the-development-team>,
>>> so I hope I can do it too.
>>>
>>> Thank you all!
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> pytest-dev mailing list
>>> pytest-dev at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pytest-dev
>>>
>>
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From me at the-compiler.org  Thu May 13 06:04:20 2021
From: me at the-compiler.org (Florian Bruhin)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 12:04:20 +0200
Subject: [pytest-dev] Digging into pytest's history
Message-ID: <20210513100420.3wxjcgawkh76q3ch@aragog.localdomain>

Hey,

I'm not sure how many of you follow GitHub Discussions in the pytest-dev
repository, so I'm crossposting this (lightly edited) from there:
https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest/discussions/8667

I've always wondered when pytest actually really was born - the first
commit in the current pytest repository (5992a8ef21424d7571305a8d7e2a3431ee7e1e23) is
from January 2007, and even that commit alone already tells a lot: This
repository originally was from the py library[1] (later split off to
pytest), and it originally was a SVN revision, migrated to Mercurial,
and finally migrated to git.

However, the commit says "create the new development trunk" and is
already quite big: 435 files changed, 58640 insertions(+).

So this week, I dug around in various other repositories and
mailinglists to find out how it all started. As you might or might not
know, pytest originally was born as part of PyPy[2], to make it easier
to write tests for it. Here's what I found it with a bit of digging
around:

[1] https://pypi.org/project/py/
[2] https://www.pypy.org/

---

- Late 2002 / early 2003, PyPy was born:
  https://morepypy.blogspot.com/2018/09/the-first-15-years-of-pypy.html

- Like that blog post mentioned, from very early on, there was a big
  focus on testing. There were various `testsupport` files on top of
  unittest.py, and as early as June 2003, Holger Krekel (@hpk42)
  refactored its test framework to clean things up (`pypy.tool.test`,
  but still on top of `unittest.py`, with nothing pytest-like yet, as
  far as I can tell):
  https://mail.python.org/pipermail/pypy-dev/2003-June/000787.html

- In December 2003, there was another iteration at improving their
  testing situation, by Stefan Schwarzer, called `pypy.tool.newtest`:
  https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/commit/02752373e1b29d89c6bb0a97e5f940caa22bdd63

- However, it didn't seem to be around for long, as around June/July
  2004, efforts started on a thing called `utest`, offering plain
  assertions. This seems like the start of something pytest-like, but
  unfortunately, I didn't actually find the test runner's code anywhere.
  The best I could find is one file, but that doesn't seem like a
  complete test runner at all. What I can see is that there were various
  efforts by Laura Creighton and Samuele Pedroni (@pedronis) at
  automatically converting existing tests to the new `utest` framework:
  https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/commit/0735f9ed287ec20950a7dd0a16fc10810d4f6847
  https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/commits/branch/default?utf8=%E2%9C%93&search=utest

- Around the same time, for Europython 2004, @hpk42 started a project
  originally called "std", intended to be a "complementary standard
  library":
  http://web.archive.org/web/20041020215353/http://codespeak.net/svn/user/hpk/talks/std-talk.txt

  In that talk, he was already laying out the principles behind what later became pytest:

  > - current "batteries included" are very useful, but
  >   * some of them are written in a pretty much java-like style,
  >     especially the unittest-framework
  >   * [...]
  >   * the best API is one that doesn't exist
  >
  > [...]
  >
  > - a testing package should require as few boilerplate code as
  >   possible and offer much flexibility
  > - it should provide premium quality tracebacks and debugging aid
  >
  > [...]
  >
  > - first of all ...  forget about limited "assertXYZ APIs"
  >   and use the real thing, e.g.:
  >
  >             assert x == y
  >
  > - this works with plain python but you get unhelpful "assertion
  >   failed" errors with no information
  >
  > - std.utest (magic!) actually reinterprets the assertion expression
  >   and offers detailed information about underlying values

- In September 2004, the `py-dev` mailinglist gets born, which is now
  pytest-dev, but thankfully with all the original archives still
  intact: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/pytest-dev/

- Around September/October 2004, the `std` project was renamed to `py`:
  https://mail.python.org/pipermail/pypy-dev/2004-September/001565.html
  with that move, `std.utest` became `py.test`. This is also the first
  time I actually found the entire source code:
  https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/commit/42cf50c412026028e20acd23d518bd92e623ac11

  I was surprised how much of the API still seems around today:

  * `py.path.local`, which we're trying to get rid of (in favour of
    pathlib) some 16-17 years later
  * The idea of the collection tree, including `Collector`,
    `FSCollector`, `Directory`, `PyCollector`, `Module`, `Class`
  * Arguments like `-x` / `--exitfirst`, `-l` / `--showlocals`,
    `--fulltrace`, `--pdb`, `-S` / `--nocapture` (`-s` / `--capture=off`
    today), `--collectonly` (`--collect-only` today)

- In the same month, the `py` library gets split off from `PyPy`:
  https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/commit/6bdafe9203ad92eb259270b267189141c53bce33

- It seemed to get rather quiet for a while, and I can't really find
  much between October 2004 (removing `py` from PyPy) and January 2007
  (first commit in the now-pytest repository). However, there were
  various discussions about features/ideas on the mailinglist, and a
  couple of releases every couple of months:
  https://pypi.org/project/py/0.8.0-alpha2/#history

  * March 2006: py 0.8.0-alpha2
  * May 2007: py 0.9.0
  * March 2008: py 0.9.1
    (first release to be found in the pytest changelog:
    https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest/blob/main/doc/en/changelog.rst#091)
  * August 2008: py 0.9.2

- In August 2009, py 1.0.0 was released, introducing a lot of fundamental features:
  https://holgerkrekel.net/2009/08/04/pylib-1-0-0-released-the-testing-with-python-innovations-continue/

  * funcargs/fixtures
  * A plugin architecture which still looks very much the same today!
    http://web.archive.org/web/20090629032718/https://codespeak.net/py/dist/test/extend.html
  * Various default plugins, including monkeypatch
    http://web.archive.org/web/20091005181132/https://codespeak.net/py/dist/test/plugin/index.html
    http://web.archive.org/web/20091012022829/http://codespeak.net/py/dist/test/plugin/monkeypatch.html

- Even back there, the FAQ said:
  http://web.archive.org/web/20091005222413/http://codespeak.net/py/dist/faq.html

  > Clearly, [a second standard library] was ambitious and the naming
  > has maybe haunted the project rather than helping it. There may be a
  > project name change and possibly a split up into different projects
  > sometime.

  and that finally happened in November 2010, when pytest 2.0.0 was
  released as a package separate from `py` (but still called `py.test`):
  https://mail.python.org/pipermail/pytest-dev/2010-November/001687.html

- In August 2016, pytest 3.0.0 was released, which adds `pytest` (rather
  than `py.test`) as the recommended command-line entry point:
  https://docs.pytest.org/en/latest/changelog.html#id1313

---

So, do I have an answer to my question "when was pytest started" now?
Well, yes and no. It depends what point you really regard as the start
of it all - I'd pick Europython 2004, i.e. around June/July 2004 - which
means pytest is turning 17 soon, with many of its core concepts still
being around!

If anyone finds something I've missed (e.g. about what happened between
mid-2004 and mid-2007), I'd be more than happy to hear about it!

Florian

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From flub at devork.be  Mon May 17 16:00:24 2021
From: flub at devork.be (Floris Bruynooghe)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 22:00:24 +0200
Subject: [pytest-dev] Digging into pytest's history
In-Reply-To: <20210513100420.3wxjcgawkh76q3ch@aragog.localdomain>
References: <20210513100420.3wxjcgawkh76q3ch@aragog.localdomain>
Message-ID: <87v97hw2p3.fsf@powell.devork.be>

On Thu 13 May 2021 at 12:04 +0200, Florian Bruhin wrote:
> I've always wondered when pytest actually really was born - the first
> commit in the current pytest repository (5992a8ef21424d7571305a8d7e2a3431ee7e1e23) is
> from January 2007, and even that commit alone already tells a lot: This
> repository originally was from the py library[1] (later split off to
> pytest), and it originally was a SVN revision, migrated to Mercurial,
> and finally migrated to git.
[...]

Nice historical digging!  I'm afraid I can't really add much, but this
already contains a lot more detail then I was aware off.

> - In September 2004, the `py-dev` mailinglist gets born, which is now
>   pytest-dev, but thankfully with all the original archives still
>   intact: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/pytest-dev/

IIRC this pytest mailing list used to be hosted on codespeak.net for
many years.  I'm impressed its archives survived the move to python.org!


Cheers,
Floris

From sylvain.marie at se.com  Thu May 20 04:44:16 2021
From: sylvain.marie at se.com (Sylvain MARIE)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 08:44:16 +0000
Subject: [pytest-dev] pytest-cases presentation at EuroPython
Message-ID: <PR3PR04MB74818E7512E06C3856DCF9A1892A9@PR3PR04MB7481.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Hi dear pytest dev

I have proposed a talk for EuroPython about pytest-cases ("Powerful tests and reproducible benchmarks with `pytest-cases`")
I saw that Florian Bruhin will also be proposing a talk about pytest ("Introduction to pytest", there seem to be 2 instances of it).
https://ep2021.europython.eu/talk-voting/

Votes are now open so if you're interested in these talks, any upvote would be appreciated ! ;)
Thanks in advance for your support,
Best,

Sylvain


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