[Python-3000] Draft PEP for outer scopes

[Terry Reedy]

"Andrew McNamara" <andrewm at object-craft.com.au> wrote in message 
news:20061102014059.BC4BB6F4198 at longblack.object-craft.com.au...
> >Guido wrote:
>>> My personal preference is still to abuse 'global' instead of adding a
>>> new, ugly keyword. That would make the syntax for global and nonlocal
>>> completely identical. :-) But I seem to be alone in this preference.

No, I (and others, it seems) just never have reason before to clutter the 
list with a 'me-too' post.

> But it doesn't mean "top-level" - it already comes with the qualifier
> "module". Even after nearly a decade of python use, I still find that
> slightly unnatural,

Me too ;-)

> and changing "global" to mean "enclosing scope"
> feels only slightly more unnatural.

Me too ;-)

Actually, I would only want a separate keyword would be if one wanted to be 
able to write

x = 1
def f():
  x = 'a'
  def _f():
    global x = {}

and have that act differently (as at present) from the inside-out behaviour 
of
newkey x = 'whatever'.  But I will not write such code and do not want to 
see such.

With two different but similar keywords, I would expect to see requests to 
be able to write
    def _f():
        global x = 2
        print x
        nonlocal x = 'b'
        print x

Terry Jan Reedy