[Python-3000] Draft PEP for outer scopes

[Steven Bethard]

Guido wrote:
> My personal preference is still to abuse 'global' instead of adding a
> new, ugly keyword. That would make the syntax for global and nonlocal
> completely identical. :-) But I seem to be alone in this preference.

Brett wrote:
> Seeing Guido have a sad face is enough to force me to have an opinon.  I
> personally always viewed 'global' as "this variable is not local", so making
> it truly mean that works for me.

Ka-Ping Yee wrote:
> Would it help at all to survey some folks to see how many interpret
> "global variable" to mean "top-level" vs. "anything nonlocal"?

I don't think that'll really be worth it.  I'd be amazed if people
didn't expect it to mean "top-level". The real question is, if people
see something like this::

    def f():
        n = 0
        def g(i):
            global n
            n += i
        return g
    func = f()
    print func(), func()

what would they expect it to do?  If you need to run a survey, that's
probably the one to run.  (Of course a different code example could be
used, but you get the idea).

Steve
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