[Python-3000] Support for PEP 3131

[Baptiste Carvello]

Guillaume Proux a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> On 6/12/07, Baptiste Carvello <baptiste13 at altern.org> wrote:
>> context. By contrast, with chineses identifiers, I will not recognise them from
>> one another. So I won't be able to make any sense from the code without going
>> through the complex task of translating everything.
> 
> You would be surprised how well you can do if you would actually try
> to recognize a set of Chinese characters, especially if you would use
> some tool to put a meaning on them. Well, I never formally learned any
> Chinese (nor any Japanese actually) , but I can now effortlessly parse
> both languages now.
> 
> But really, if you ever find any code with Chinese written all over it
> that you would believe might be very useful to you, you would have one
> of the following choice:
> (a) use a tokenizer and use some tool to do a hanzi -> ascii automatic
> transliteration/translation
> (b)  try to wrap the Chinese things with an ASCII veil (which would
> make you work on your Chinese a bit)  or you could ask your Chinese
> girlfriend to help you (WHAT you don't have a Chinese girlfriend yet?
> :))
> (c) actually contact the person who submitted the code to let him know
> you are very much interested in the code....
> 
> In most cases, this would give you the possibility to reach out to
> different communities and to work together with people with whom you
> might never have talked to. From what we can see on English-only
> mailing lists, this is the kind of python users we don't normally have
> access to currently because they simply are secluded in their own
> little universe, in the comfortable realm of their own linguistic
> barriers.
> 
> Of course, sometimes they step out  and offer a plea for help on
> English ML in broken English...
> PEP3131 is unlikely to change this. However it can see it might have
> two ethnically interesting consequences:
> 1) Python usage in community where ascii has little place should find
> more uses because people will become enpowered with Python and able to
> express themselves like never before: my bet is that for example, the
> Japanese python commmunity will become stronger and welcome new people
> younger and older, and that do not know much English.
> 2) If ever a program written with non-ASCII character find some good
> usage in ascii-only communities, then the usual plea for help will be
> reversed. People will seek out e.g. Japanese programmers and request
> help, maybe in broken Japanese. From this point on, all programming
> communities will be on an equal footing and able to talk together on
> the same standpoint. I guess you know "Liberté Egalité Fraternité".
> Maybe this should be the PEP subtitle.
> 
>> what happens to the keyword "if" (just try it:-). You would have to translate
>> the identifiers one by one, which is not practical.
> 
> would be possible with the tokenizer actually :)
> 
> Droit comme un if !
> 
> A bientôt,
> 
> Guillaume

si tu me prends par les sentiments :-) Really, you make it sound so nice I would
 almost change my mind. Still wondering how much of an effort it will be, though.

Ciao,
Baptiste