[Python-3000] Support for PEP 3131
"Martin v. Löwis"
martin at v.loewis.de
Tue May 22 07:58:17 CEST 2007
> | I'm not aware of an algorithm that
> | can do transliteration for all Unicode characters.
> Were you proposing to allow all Unicode characters in Python names?-)
Not sure how to interpret your question: no, I'm not proposing
to allow all Unicode characters, just a selected subset (but then,
I don't know a universal transliteration algorithm for that subset,
> | Therefore, I cannot add transliteration into the PEP.
> Non sequitor. How I read this is "Because I do not know how to do
> something that does not need to be done, I cannot do something that could
> be done."
No. You should read it "because I don't know how to do it, *I* will
not do it".
> My proposal was that the Unicode characters allowed in Python identifiers
> be limited to those with a transliteration, either current or to be
> developed by those who want to use a particular character set.
But what would be the purpose of doing so? Mere existence of a
transliteration algorithm surely isn't what you are after.
> While the PEPs acceptance as-is (for which I congratulate you for your
> persistence) makes transliteration moot as an acceptibility enhancement, it
> does not change its desireability for use purposes. To repeat: without it,
> national character identifiers will tend to ghettoize code. While this
> might be a minor issue for Chinese, it will be a bigger issue for people
> writing in Thai or Ibo or other languages with small pioneering groups of
> Python programmers.
What I fail to see is how existence of a transliteration algorithm would
remove the ghettoization. It must be used somehow, no?
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