[Python-3000] PEP 3131 accepted

Steve Howell showell30 at yahoo.com
Thu May 24 02:57:44 CEST 2007

--- Neil Toronto <ntoronto at cs.byu.edu> wrote:

> Josiah Carlson wrote:
> > Thank you for hitting home that unless people use
> Emacs, their tools
> > arent sufficient for Python development. I still
> don't believe that my
> > concerns have been addressed. And I certainly
> don't believe that those
> > Ka-Ping brought up (which are better than mine)
> have been addressed.
> >  But hey, my tools aren't Emacs, so obviusly my
> concerns regarding using
> > my tools to edit Python in the future don't
> matter.  Thank you for the
> > vote of confidence.
> >   
> Though I don't develop an editor in my spare time, I
> had a similar 
> reaction to the "Emacs does Unicode this way, which
> is correct" 
> solutions. My favorite editor is going to have to
> get awfully smart.
> It reminds me of some friction I experienced when
> trying out Lisp. It's 
> fairly painful to program in Lisp without an editor
> that does 
> paren-matching and automatic indentation. I tried
> Emacs, and I didn't 
> like it, which is a shame because it's the One True
> Editor for 
> programming in Lisp. I basically dropped Lisp over
> this issue. [...]

I'm +1 on being able to use Py3k effectively with a
relatively dumb editor.  (I now use vim, which sucks a
lot less than vi, but doesn't compare to some pretty
damn awesome Windows editors that I used in my
pre-Python days).

Still, I'm plus +1 on PEP 3131.  It will benefit me in
no way whatsoever, as I'm a native English speaker,
I'm of English descent, I work with people with code
most effectively in English (even though it's often
their second language), I18N doesn't fit my brain, I
like English muffins, etc.

The thing that's compelling to me about PEP 3131 is
that it truly opens up Python to a new audience.  I
just hope I never have to write an app that parses
Dutch tax laws.

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