[Python-3000] PEP 3137 plan of attack {stage 2]

[Guido van Rossum]

On 10/19/07, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
> On 10/19/07, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
> > On 10/7/07, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
> > > I'd like to make complete implementation of PEP 3137 the goal for the
> > > 3.0a2 release. It should be doable to do this release by the end of
> > > October. I don't think anything else *needs* to be done to have a
> > > successful a2 release.
> >
> > I'm still hopeful, though realistically we may not quite make it.
> > Here's a status update on the issues I identified in my last message
> > (plus some identified afterwards):
> [SNIP]
> >
> > > - make == and != between PyString and Pyunicode return False instead
> > > of converting
> >
> > A patch by Thomas Lee exists: http://bugs.python.org/issue1263
> > However it breaks some unit tests.
> >
> [SNIP]
> > A patch by Alexandre Vassalotti exists but breaks some unit tests:
> > http://bugs.python.org/issue1280
> >
> > > - change PyString's repr() to return "b'...'"
> > > - change PyBytes's repr() to return "buffer(b'...')"
> > > - change parser so that b"..." returns PyString, not PyBytes
> > > - rename bytes -> buffer, str8 -> bytes
> >
> > A patch by Alexandre Vassolotti and Christian Heimes exists for these 4 items:
> > http://bugs.python.org/issue1247
> > However it breaks too many tests to be applied right now.
> [SNIP]
> > > - move initialization of sys.std{in,out,err} into C code and do it earlier.
> >
> > A patch by Christian Heimes exists: http://bugs.python.org/issue1267
> > However it still breaks some unit tests...
>
> With so many patches now floating around, I figure getting some help
> with patch approval is probably the most useful.  Is there a specific
> patch you would like to see get applied above the others?  Or does it
> not matter and one should just grab any of them and just try to fix a
> test or two when one has the spare time?

Alas, al of them have problems where they break several unit tests in
a fairly deep way. I've made several aborted attempts already at
assessing how close each one is, but I got distracted each time (this
has been an extra busy week at Google). I'm making a commitment now to
doing nothing but this the rest of this afternoon.

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--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)