[Python-3000] Is pickle's persistent_id worth keeping?

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Mon Jan 7 16:21:52 CET 2008

On Jan 7, 2008 5:50 AM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Jim Fulton wrote:
> > Really, I'd like to see a much smaller standard library.  IMO, pickle
> > isn't essential enough to be part of the standard library and I'd be
> > happy to see pickle become a separate project. I'd prefer to see most
> > of the Python 2 standard library become separate projects.
> I still think this idea has merit, if only because some packages
> simply have a different lifecycle than the core language.  There are
> advantages and disadvantages to packaging with the core.
> I think /if/ we do this, then we need really solid mechanisms for
> installing, uninstalling, and updating packages, for querying what's
> installed, for making assertions about requirements, etc.  Basically
> everything that a good OS package manager does.  PyPI/Cheeseshop/
> setuptools/easy_install is the closest thing we have, and it's great,
> but it definitely needs polish.
> I think it would also be worthwhile getting some OS distro folks
> involved.  I talked with some of the Ubuntu packaging people at our
> company's recent all-hands meeting and they had a very interesting
> perspective on the whole setuptools approach and how it interacts (or
> doesn't) with the distro packagers.

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