[Python-3000] Useless methods in Queue module

Mike Klaas mike.klaas at gmail.com
Fri Jan 11 20:32:03 CET 2008

On 11-Jan-08, at 11:13 AM, Raymond Hettinger wrote:

> I proposed to remove three methods from the queue module, qsize(),  
> empty(), and full().  These are not reliable.  The RightWay (tm) is  
> to trap the Empty and Full exceptions or use the .join() approach.

-1.  There are several "advisory" use cases for these methods where  
the reliability of the answer when .get/.put is not important.

For instance, as Aahz mentioned, being able to log the size of the  
queue is extremely useful (also, for unittesting).  Another, more  
substantive use case is as follows: I have an asyncore.dispatcher  
implementation that reads output from a Queue.Queue to put on the  
wire.  It is necessary here to implement .writable(), which should  
return True if there is a possibility that there is data to be  
written (so asyncore can poll for writability in the select() loop).   
"return not queue.empty()" does the trick.  Of course, when it comes  
time to write to the socket, it is still necessary to catch Empty  
exceptions, and do nothing in that case.


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