python-dev Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-15
bac at OCF.Berkeley.EDU
Thu Nov 18 07:34:06 CET 2004
This is a summary of traffic on the `python-dev mailing list`_ from October 01,
2004 through October 15, 2004. It is intended to inform the wider Python
community of on-going developments on the list. To comment on anything
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This is the fiftieth summary written by Brett Cannon (Time for my summary
To contact me, please send email to brett at python.org ; I do not have the
time to keep up on comp.lang.python and thus do not always catch follow-ups
All summaries are archived at http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ .
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simple and is accepted for `PEP markup`_ and gives some perks for the HTML
output. Also, because of the wonders of programs that like to reformat text, I
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Sorry for the very late and short summary but I am in extreme crunch mode right
now with school (partially thanks to a research paper comparing Python to Java)
and preparing for applications to doctorate programs (any recommendations for
schools with a good CS dept. and language research would be appreciated).
Don't expect things to pick up again until the quarter is over (Dec. 9th is my
New module: subprocess
Peter Ästrand wrote `PEP 324`_ to come up with a platform-independent way to
create processes. Originally entitled popen5, it has now been added to the
stdlib as subprocess.
.. _PEP 324: http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0324.html
- `subprocess - updated popen5 module
- `python/dist/src/Lib subprocess.py,NONE,1.1
- `Wither docs for the subprocess module?
Python 2.4.b1 is out
`Python 2.4b1`_ has been released. As usual please download it, run the test
suite, and test it with your own code.
.. _Python 2.4b1: http://www.python.org/2.4/
- `2.4b1 release, this Friday (AU time) -- imminent TRUNK FREEZING
- `RELEASED Python 2.4, beta 1
- `TRUNK UNFROZEN (release is done)
We need a replacement for ConfigParser
David Goodger brought forward two patches for ConfigParser he wanted to apply.
This quickly brought up the point that ConfigParser's API is not exactly
optimal. So the decision was made to field new designs. If you happen to have
your own code lying around that handles .ini files nicely then get it cleaned
up and consider proposing at as a replacement.
Some ideas have already been floated on the list but will have to wait for the
next summary for mention/discussion.
- `ConfigParser patches
- Guidelines for Logging Usage
- Status of undocumented distutils features in 2.4?
- Toward Python's future article
- test_pep263.py is "-kb" in CVS
- python/dist/src/Doc/whatsnew whatsnew24.tex, 1.108, 1.109
- Python on Windows 64bits?
- About the Wise installer on Windows
- Patch wanted
- python/dist/src/Objects unicodeobject.c, 2.228, 2.229
- Minor cookielib changes for 2.4b1
- proposed struct module format code addition
- Cyclic GC issues
Just don't have the time to summarize this, but a in-depth discussion of
garbage collection involving extension code and using non-Python structs.
- python-dev Summary for 2004-09-16 through 2004-09-30 [draft]
Lead to a discussion of executing modules in packages using the new '-m'
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