[Python-authors] Python-authors Digest, Vol 31, Issue 4

Mon Oct 10 15:27:47 EDT 2016

Actually kinda nice to see this mailing list spring to some sort of life.

I have been weighing my options in terms of trying to author something
Python related, but the subject matter is escaping me. Every time I come
across a topic that seems like a winner, I find that book with some other
author's name on it on o'Reilly's bookshelf.

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chalmer

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> From: Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>
> To: Vasudev Ram <vasudevram at gmail.com>
> Cc: Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com>, Python Authors
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> Subject: Re: [Python-authors] what should we do with this list?
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> Maybe we could encouraging some swapping of war stories, under "frieNDA".
>
> I can mention that I have an authoring project on the go - with Alex
> Martelli and Anna Ravenscroft I am working on the 3rd Edition of "Python in
> a Nutshell." I spent this weekend taking the "What's New in Python 3.6"
> documentation apart and analysing the changes so that we could be sure that
> the book will be as up to date as possible when it's published early next
> year.
>
> O'Reilly wanted to have the book out for Christmas, and I fought hard to
> delay it, on the grounds that the publication timetable would be too rushed
> to submit before Christmas, product quality would have suffered and we
> wouldn't have been able to be definitive on 3.6. The first and only other
> time I wrote a major work (Python Web Programming, published in 2002) I was
> a brand new author, and tended to defer too easily to the publisher. But
> now I hope I have learned how to make an argument to them in business
> terms.
>
> So, having tried to get the party started, what's everyone else working on?
>
> regards
>  Steve
>
> Steve Holden
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Vasudev Ram <vasudevram at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Steve Holden wrote:
> >
> > >But if nobody has the time to perform the resultant tasks, the list
> would
> > probably be better fading away.
> >
> > What would be those resultant tasks? IIRC it's quite a while since I
> > saw any emails from this list, so I don't remember what kinds of
> > emails there may have been, earlier, of the type you refer to. Was it
> > something like other authors on this list being able to help out
> > anyone posting questions as a first-time author, with some advice?
> >
> > (I was earlier going to say maybe close the list, but it seems like a
> > pity to let the effort of starting it go waste).
> >
> > But, sort of agreeing now with Steve's and Mike Driscoll's  suggestion
> > that it be kept open, and just see if anything happens - i.e. if there
> > will be any activity on it and if it turns out to be useful to people.
> > That still doesn't solve how new people will get to know of it,
> > though. Maybe it could be mentioned somewhere on the Python Wiki, if
> > that is not already done?
> > And/or a post once in a while on the PSF blog?
> >
> > My 2c.
> >
> > --
> > Vasudev Ram
> > - gumroad.com/vasudevram | jugad2.blogspot.com | vasudevram.github.io
> >
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> From: Brian Jones <bkjones at gmail.com>
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> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>
> wrote:
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> > So, having tried to get the party started, what's everyone else working
> on?
>
> I'm working on defining clear goals in the writing space for myself.
> I'm scattered on multiple personal writing projects, in various stages
> of completion. One I thought was completed until I reread it and
> determined it was utter crap, so I'm revising it. Another is a blog
> that requires a backlog of material. Another is transcribing 32 years
> of personal journals into some digital format with inline comments
> from the "today" version of me :)
>
> None of my current writing projects are technical (though the blog is
> about leading technical teams). I'm doing technical *work* in terms of
> keeping up to speed on various technical fronts, but I'm not to the
> point of writing about them. I miss that kind of writing, truth be
> told.
>
> I have to say, it's good to see the names of old friends in my inbox again
> :)
> brian
>
> --
> Brian K. Jones
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 14:10:20 -0400
> From: Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com>
> To: Python Authors <python-authors at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Python-authors] what should we do with this list?
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>
> > On Oct 10, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe we could encouraging some swapping of war stories, under "frieNDA".
> >
> > I can mention that I have an authoring project on the go - with Alex
> Martelli and Anna Ravenscroft I am working on the 3rd Edition of "Python in
> a Nutshell." I spent this weekend taking the "What's New in Python 3.6"
> documentation apart and analysing the changes so that we could be sure that
> the book will be as up to date as possible when it's published early next
> year.
>
> I?m working on updating ?The Python Standard Library by Example? to work
> with Python 3.5. I haven?t tested any of my examples to make sure they
> still work with 3.6, and I?m close enough to my deadline that I don?t think
> I want to try it for now. Unless someone thinks there?s a critical new
> module in that version?
>
> >
> > O'Reilly wanted to have the book out for Christmas, and I fought hard to
> delay it, on the grounds that the publication timetable would be too rushed
> to submit before Christmas, product quality would have suffered and we
> wouldn't have been able to be definitive on 3.6. The first and only other
> time I wrote a major work (Python Web Programming, published in 2002) I was
> a brand new author, and tended to defer too easily to the publisher. But
> now I hope I have learned how to make an argument to them in business terms.
> >
> > So, having tried to get the party started, what's everyone else working
> on?
> >
> > regards
> >  Steve
> >
> > Steve Holden
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Vasudev Ram <vasudevram at gmail.com
> <mailto:vasudevram at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Steve Holden wrote:
> >
> > >But if nobody has the time to perform the resultant tasks, the list
> would probably be better fading away.
> >
> > What would be those resultant tasks? IIRC it's quite a while since I
> > saw any emails from this list, so I don't remember what kinds of
> > emails there may have been, earlier, of the type you refer to. Was it
> > something like other authors on this list being able to help out
> > anyone posting questions as a first-time author, with some advice?
> >
> > (I was earlier going to say maybe close the list, but it seems like a
> > pity to let the effort of starting it go waste).
> >
> > But, sort of agreeing now with Steve's and Mike Driscoll's  suggestion
> > that it be kept open, and just see if anything happens - i.e. if there
> > will be any activity on it and if it turns out to be useful to people.
> > That still doesn't solve how new people will get to know of it,
> > though. Maybe it could be mentioned somewhere on the Python Wiki, if
> > that is not already done?
> > And/or a post once in a while on the PSF blog?
> >
> > My 2c.
> >
> > --
> > Vasudev Ram
> > - gumroad.com/vasudevram <http://gumroad.com/vasudevram> |
> jugad2.blogspot.com <http://jugad2.blogspot.com/> | vasudevram.github.io <
> http://vasudevram.github.io/>
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