[Python-bugs-list] [ python-Bugs-216289 ] Programs using Tkinter sometimes can't shut down (Windows)

Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:43:14 -0700

Bugs item #216289, was opened at 2000-10-06 19:25
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Category: Windows
Group: 3rd Party
Status: Closed
Resolution: Wont Fix
Priority: 3
Submitted By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Assigned to: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Summary: Programs using Tkinter sometimes can't shut down (Windows)

Initial Comment:
The following msg from the Tutor list is about 1.6, but I noticed the same thing several times today using 2.0b2+CVS.  In my case, I was running IDLE via

python ../tool/idle/idle.pyw

from a DOS box in my PCbuild directory.  Win98SE.  *Most* of the time, shutting down IDLE via Ctrl+Q left the DOS box hanging.  As with the poster, the only way to regain control was to use the Task Manager to kill off Winoldap.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Stubenrauch <nothingisgoingtochangemyworld@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 9:23 PM
To: tutor@python.org
Subject: Re: [Tutor] Python 1.6 BUG

Strange, I have been experiencing the same bug myself.
Here's the low down for me:

Python 1.6 with win95
I am running a little Tkinter program
The command line I use is simply: "python foo.py"
About 25-35% of the time, when I close the Tkinter
window, DOS seems to "freeze" and never returns to the
c:\ command prompt.  I have to ctrl-alt-delete
repeatedly and shut down "winoldapp" to get rid of the
window and then shell back into DOS and keep working.
It's a bit of a pain, since I have the habit of
testing EVERYTHING in tiny little stages, so I change
one little thing, test it ... freeze ... ARGH!  Change
one more tiny thing, test it ... freeze ... ARGH! 
However, sometimes it seems to behave and doesn't
bother me for an entire several hour session of python
work.

That's my report on the problem.

Cheers,

Joe

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Comment By: Howard Lightstone (hlightstone)
Date: 2001-09-05 10:43

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I sometimes get bunches of these....

A tool I use (Taskinfo2000) reports that (after killing 
winoldap):

python.exe is blocked on a mutex named OLESCELOCKMUTEX.
The reported state is "Console Terminating".  There appears 
to be only one (os) thread running.

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Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2001-04-02 13:06

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No sign of progress on this presumed Tk/Tcl Windows bug in 
over 3 months, so closing it for lack of hope.

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Comment By: Doug Henderson (djhender)
Date: 2001-02-05 21:13

Message:
This was a symptom I saw while tracking down the essence of the problem reported in #131207.  Using Win98SE, I would get an error dialog (GPF?) in the Kernel, and sometimes the dos prompt would not come back.

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Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2000-12-12 18:00

Message:
Just reproduced w/ current CVS, but didn't hang until the 8th try.

http://dev.scriptics.com/software/tcltk/ says 8.3 is still the latest released version; don't know whether that URL still makes sense, though.

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Comment By: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum)
Date: 2000-12-12 12:58

Message:
Tim, can you still reproduce this with the current CVS version?

There's been one critical patch to _tkinter since the 2.0 release.

An alternative would be to try with a newer version of Tcl (isn't 8.4 out already?).

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2000-10-15 09:47

Message:
Same as I've reported earlier; it hangs in the call to
Tcl_Finalize (which is called by the DLL finalization
code).  It's less likely to hang if I call Tcl_Finalize
from the _tkinter DLL (from user code).

Note that the problem isn't really Python-related -- I
have stand-alone samples (based on wish) that hangs in
the same way.

More later.

</F>

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Comment By: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum)
Date: 2000-10-13 07:40

Message:
Back to Tim since I have no clue what to do here.

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Comment By: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum)
Date: 2000-10-12 10:25

Message:
The recent fix to _tkinter (Tcl_GetStringResult(interp) instead of interp->result) didn't fix this either.

As Tim has remarked in private but not yet recorded here, a workaround is to use pythonw instead of python, so I'm lowering thepriority again.

Also note that the hanging process that Tim writes about apparently prevents Win98 from shutting down properly.

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Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2000-10-07 00:37

Message:
More info (none good, but some worse so boosted priority):

+ Happens under release and debug builds.

+ Have not been able to provoke when starting in the debugger.

+ Ctrl+Alt+Del and killing Winoldap is not enough to clean everything up.  There's still a Python (or Python_d) process hanging around that Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't show.

+ This process makes it impossible to delete the associated Python .dll, and in particular makes it impossible to rebuild Python successfully without a reboot.

+ These processes cannot be killed!  Wintop and Process Viewer both fail to get the job done.  PrcView (a freeware process viewer) itself locks up if I try to kill them using it.  Process Viewer freezes for several seconds before giving up.

+ Attempting to attach to the process with the MSVC debugger (in order to find out what the heck it's doing) finds the process OK, but then yields the cryptic and undocumented error msg "Cannot execute program".

+ The processes are not accumulating cycles.

+ Smells like deadlock.

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