[Python-bugs-list] [ python-Bugs-474836 ] Tix not included in windows distribution

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Bugs item #474836, was opened at 2001-10-25 13:22
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Category: Tkinter
Group: Python 2.3
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Summary: Tix not included in windows distribution

Initial Comment:
Although there is a Tix.py available, there is no Tix
support in the precomiled 
Python-distribution for windows. So 

import Tix

works fine, but

root = Tix.Tk()

results in 

TclError: package not found. 

It is possible to circumvent this problem by installing
a regular Tcl/Tk distribution (e.g. in
c:\programme\tcl) and installing Tix in the regular
Tcl-path (i.e. tcl\lib).

Mathias

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>Comment By: Martin v. Löwis (loewis)
Date: 2003-04-26 12:22

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I still think Python should include Tix. Here are some 
instructions on how to make Tix 8.1.4 work:

1. Unpack as a sibling of tcl8.4.1 and tk8.4.1
2. Edit win\common.mk, to set the following variables
    TCL_VER=8.4
    INSTALLDIR=<directory to pick up installation from later>
    MKDIR=mkdir
3. Edit win\makefile.vc, to set the following variables
    TOOLS32=<directory of cl>
    TOOLS32_rc=<directory of rc.exe>
4. Edit win\tk\pkgindex.tcl, to replace
    lappend dirs ../../Dlls
    with
    lappend dirs [file join [file dirname [info nameofexe]] Dlls]
5. nmake -f makefile.vc
6. nmake -f makefile.vc install
7. Copy INSTALLDIR\bin\tix8184.dll to <python>\DLLs
8. Optionally copy tix8184.lib somewhere
9. copy INSTALLDIR\lib\tix8.1 into <python>\tcl

With these instructions, invoking t.tk.eval("package require 
Tix") succeeds. For some reason, Tix won't still find any of 
the commands; I'll investigate this later.

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Comment By: Internet Discovery (idiscovery)
Date: 2002-12-11 10:14

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My you're courageous - going with a version of Tcl that doesn't
even pass its own tests :-) Been there, seen it, done it ....

8.1.4 will be out this week, which compiles with 8.4 but I don't
expect it to "support" 8.4 for a while yet (they added more problems
in 8.4.1). 8.3.5 is definitely "supported".

Check back with me before 2.3 goes into beta and I'll do
another minor release if necessary. Maybe Tk will test clean then.

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Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2002-11-20 02:36

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Parents shouldn't disagree in front of their children <wink>.

Not all the Tcl or Tk tests (their tests, not ours) passed 
when I built 8.4.1, but I couldn't (and can't) make time to 
dig into that, and all the Python stuff I tried worked fine.  So 
I don't fear 8.4, and am inclined to accept Martin's 
assurance that 8.4 is best for Python.

We intend to put out the first 2.3 Python alpha by the end 
of the year, and my bet is it won't be a minute before that.  
If Tix 8.1.4 is at RC3 now, I'd *guess* you'll have a final 
release out well before then.  Yes?  No?

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Comment By: Martin v. Löwis (loewis)
Date: 2002-11-19 23:12

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I think the recommendation cannot apply to Python; I'm very
much in favour of releasing Python 2.3 with Tk 8.4.x. 

So the question then is whether Python 2.3 should include
Tix 8.1.4 or no Tix at all, and at what time Tix 8.1.4 can
be expected.

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Comment By: Internet Discovery (idiscovery)
Date: 2002-11-19 20:10

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Look on http://tix.sourceforge.net/download.shtml for
Tix 8.1.4 RC3. It works with Tk 8.4.1 and passes the test suite,
but there are still issues with Tk 8.4 and it has not been
widely tested with yet with 8.4.1, so we still recommend 8.3.5.
(Tcl major releases often aren't stable until patch .3 or so.)

If you have any problems let me know directly by email
and I'll try and help.








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Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2002-11-18 17:35

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Does Tix 8.1.3 play with Tcl/Tk 8.4.1?  The 2.3. Windows 
distro is set up to include the latter now.  The 
win\common.mak file from Tix 8.1.3 doesn't have a section 
for Tcl/Tk 8.4, though.

There appear to be several reasons Tix won't compile on 
my box anyway without fiddling the Tix makefiles (e.g., my 
VC doesn't live in \DevStudio), so before spending more 
time on that I'd like to know whether it's doomed.

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Comment By: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum)
Date: 2002-11-07 15:52

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I support this. Tim, I know you're not a big Tk user (to say
the least). I'll offer to help in person.

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Comment By: Internet Discovery (idiscovery)
Date: 2002-11-03 08:30

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I would really like to see Tix in 2.3 and will be glad to help.
AFAIK there are no major issues with tix-8.1.3 and Python 2.x
and it should be a simple drop in of a cannonically compiled Tix.

If there are any issues that need dealing with at Tix's end, I'll be 
glad to put out a new minor release of Tix to address them.

On Python's end I've suggested a fix for http://python.org/sf/564729

FYI, please also see my comments for bug 632323.


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Comment By: Internet Discovery (idiscovery)
Date: 2002-11-03 06:34

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I would really like to see Tix in 2.3 and will be glad to help.
AFAIK there are no major issues with tix-8.1.3 and Python 2.x
and it should be a simple drop in of a cannonically compiled Tix.

If there are any issues that need dealing with at Tix's end, I'll be 
glad to put out a new minor release of Tix to address them.

On Python's end I've suggested a fix for http://python.org/sf/564729

FYI, please also see my comments for bug 632323.


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Comment By: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum)
Date: 2002-03-23 04:34

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Yes, for 2.3.

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Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2002-03-10 02:48

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Guido, do you want me to spend time on this?

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Comment By: Mathias Palm (monos)
Date: 2002-03-07 14:38

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Thanks.

Mathias

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Comment By: Martin v. Löwis (loewis)
Date: 2002-02-25 13:57

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The zip file is slightly too large for SF, so it is now at

http://www.informatik.hu-
berlin.de/~loewis/python/tix813win.zip

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Comment By: Martin v. Löwis (loewis)
Date: 2002-02-25 13:56

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Building Tix from sources is non-trivial, and I could not 
find any recent Windows binary distribution (based on Tix 
8.1). So I'll attach a build of Tix 8.1.3 for Tcl/Tk 8.3, 
as a drop-in into the Python binary distribution.

Compared to the original distribution, only tix8.1
\pkgIndex.tcl required tweaking, to tell it that 
tix8183.dll can be found in the DLLs subdirectory.

Also, unless TIX_LIBRARY is set, the Tix tcl files *must* 
live in tcl\tix8.1, since tix8183.dll will look in 
TCL_LIBRARY\..\tix<TIX_VERSION> (among other locations).

If a major Tcl release happens before Python 2.3 is 
released (and it is then still desirable to distribute 
Python with Tix), these binaries need to be regenerated.

Would these instructions (unpack zip file into 
distribution tree) be precise enough to allow 
incorporation into the windows installer?

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Comment By: Mathias Palm (monos)
Date: 2001-10-29 12:53

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As mentioned in the mail above (by me, Mathias), Tix is a
package belonging to Tcl/Tk (to be found on sourceforge:
tix.sourceforge.net, or via the Python home page - tkinter
link). 

Everything needed can be found there, just read about it
(and dont forget about the winking,  eyes might be getting
dry)

Mathias



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Comment By: Tim Peters (tim_one)
Date: 2001-10-25 20:26

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I don't know anything about Tix, so if somebody wants this 
in the Windows installer, they're going to have to explain 
exactly (by which I mean exactly <0.5 wink>) what's needed.

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